Rumor from a Monorail worker.

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wiigirl

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ImagineerDude said:
Hopefully an expansion to DHS and AK too??? :p
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Now that would be awesome! :)
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po1998

po1998

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I'm in the minority, but I'd be in favor of not only tearing up any monorail rehab/expansion plans, but also demolishing the current monorail system, if it meant getting much needed improvements to AK, EC & DHS.
 
wdw71fan

wdw71fan

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po1998 said:
I'm in the minority, but I'd be in favor of not only tearing up any monorail rehab/expansion plans, but also demolishing the current monorail system, if it meant getting much needed improvements to AK, EC & DHS.
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That will never happen.. Monorails and Disney are like Bread and butter... It's expected..

Here's what I've heard, last I knew this was still a 'plan', nothing had been green lit.. but, perhaps that has changed.

- 2.6 billion over 3 years
- New trains, supporting MAPO-X (New custom monitoring and control system)
- New, State of the Art, Monorail Central.. To be constructed next to the Epcot Platform
- Expansion of the current beamway to service additional guest areas.
- Construction of a new rectifier structure near Osceola and World Drive interchange. This would be to provide conditioned power and monitoring for the expanded beamway.
- Fitting of the AK Power substation for voltage rectifying for beamway expansion.


World/Osceola location:

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AK Power Substation for Refit:

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po1998

po1998

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wdw71fan said:
That will never happen.. Monorails and Disney are like Bread and butter... It's expected..

Here's what I've heard, last I knew this was still a 'plan', nothing had been green lit.. but, perhaps that has changed.

- 2.6 billion over 3 years
- New trains, supporting MAPO-X (New custom monitoring and control system)
- New, State of the Art, Monorail Central.. To be constructed next to the Epcot Platform
- Expansion of the current beamway to service additional guest areas.
- Construction of a new rectifier structure near Osceola and World Drive interchange. This would be to provide conditioned power and monitoring for the expanded beamway.
- Fitting of the AK Power substation for voltage rectifying for beamway expansion.
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While I know my wish about ditching the monorail system will never happen, I also think there is ZERO chance that TDO commits almost 3 BILLION dollars to a monorail expansion/upgrade.
 
menamechris

menamechris

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I am sure Disney keeps tabs on what it would cost - and how they would implement a monorail expansion. They have done that since the 1980's. That being said - it hasn't been greenlit, because it will never happen. The opportunity was passed up by the most ambitious of management and executives...To assume the current corporate heads would give this "the go" is simply crazy talk...
 
Master Yoda

Master Yoda

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menamechris said:
I am sure Disney keeps tabs on what it would cost - and how they would implement a monorail expansion. They have done that since the 1980's. That being said - it hasn't been greenlit, because it will never happen. The opportunity was passed up by the most ambitious of management and executives...To assume the current corporate heads would give this "the go" is simply crazy talk...
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I have no doubt this is the case. From what I understand a large scale monorail expansion was right about to be green lit before 9/11. I'll wager that there is a spread sheet where someone can input the current price of labor. concrete, steel, etc and generate a current cost for expansion. I just do not see Disney doing it until they have no other choice.
 
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Donfan

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Master Yoda said:
I have no doubt this is the case. From what I understand a large scale monorail expansion was right about to be green lit before 9/11. I'll wager that there is a spread sheet where someone can input the current price of labor. concrete, steel, etc and generate a current cost for expansion. I just do not see Disney doing it until they have no other choice.
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How could they ever not have another choice?
 
montyz81

montyz81

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Master Yoda said:
I have no doubt this is the case. From what I understand a large scale monorail expansion was right about to be green lit before 9/11. I'll wager that there is a spread sheet where someone can input the current price of labor. concrete, steel, etc and generate a current cost for expansion. I just do not see Disney doing it until they have no other choice.
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They are getting close. At some point the system will become cost prohibitive due to it's age. (I know it has probably already been depreciated 9 times over)
 
danlb_2000

danlb_2000

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po1998 said:
While I know my wish about ditching the monorail system will never happen, I also think there is ZERO chance that TDO commits almost 3 BILLION dollars to a monorail expansion/upgrade.
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Especially since they have said they are cutting back on capitol expenditures. The last number that Jay Rasulo was a little over $1 billion a year for all parks and resorts capex spending. $2.6 Billion over 3 years would chew up a good portion of that.
 
Condorman

Condorman

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I love hearing the hypocritical double-talk of some of the people on these boards. On the one hand you say Disney is a money-grubbing, penny-pinching Scrooge of a company that has let the entire WDW resort fall into decay for over a decade; and on the other hand some of you actually believe, at any point in those same ten years (or 20, for that matter) that Disney actually considered blowing $3 billion on a proprietary, slow-moving, too-few-passenger-carrying, insurance-risk of a transportation nightmare? Seriously? For a property twice the size of Manhattan, I realize buses may not be as futuristic or romantic as a monorail, but get used to them, because when a bus breaks down, it can be replaced in ten minutes; when the monorail breaks down, people sue (or lose their life as was the case). The monorail will never be expanded, not even if the resort were taken over by private ownership or the executive of your dreams came into power. Expansion plans have not been on the table since the early 1980s, from Epcot to Lake Buena Vista Village (now DTD). See the picture below.

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An expansion will never happen. Quote me on it. If it does, everyone on this thread gets $1,000, guaranteed.
 
Avenger117

Avenger117

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I'm pretty sure that Disney World trains the transportation CMs just to mess with people. The bus drivers and monorail cms have been talking about new parks, monorail expansions, etc for years. I actually think its kind of funny.
 
psukardi

psukardi

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I'd love an addition to the monorail but I just don't see the ROI on it.

I'd rather them spend some money and add something to that downtown disney area for the dual income no kid demographic. Maybe something with comedy club / dance club / bars / etc. Heck they could have a cover charge of like $10-$15 for people not staying on property....

Heck if they need to find a theme for it, I think there was this place in Pinocchio where all the kids went....what was it's name again?
 
lobelia

lobelia

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Condorman said:
I love hearing the hypocritical double-talk of some of the people on these boards. On the one hand you say Disney is a money-grubbing, penny-pinching Scrooge of a company that has let the entire WDW resort fall into decay for over a decade; and on the other hand some of you actually believe, at any point in those same ten years (or 20, for that matter) that Disney actually considered blowing $3 billion on a proprietary, slow-moving, too-few-passenger-carrying, insurance-risk of a transportation nightmare? Seriously? For a property twice the size of Manhattan, I realize buses may not be as futuristic or romantic as a monorail, but get used to them, because when a bus breaks down, it can be replaced in ten minutes; when the monorail breaks down, people sue (or lose their life as was the case). The monorail will never be expanded, not even if the resort were taken over by private ownership or the executive of your dreams came into power. Expansion plans have not been on the table since the early 1980s, from Epcot to Lake Buena Vista Village (now DTD). See the picture below.



An expansion will never happen. Quote me on it. If it does, everyone on this thread gets $1,000, guaranteed.
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So I would like it noticed that I am part of this thread. It never hurts to hedge a bet. If we get a monorail expansion, I get my $1000.00. Win win for me!
 

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