jloucks
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Actually, I think you nailed it right there. Probably just that simple.
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Rude Behavior And Temper Outbursts: How Much Is HEAT To Blame?
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Actually, I think you nailed it right there. Probably just that simple.
betty rose
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Went on the Oasis, it had over 5,000 people, and after boarding...the 2 weeks on it never seemed crowded. There was plenty to do zip line, several pools, night clubs, casino, wave rider, just to name a few of the options, we went from morning until 3 a.m. (was younger), and never felt bored or crowded. Just my 2 cent experience. Back on topic.
Goofyernmost
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I don't doubt that for a second, but, 5000 still isn't 25000. Depending on how many levels that a particular cruise ship might have I would be curious to know just how many square feet exist on a ship as opposed to a theme park or two. I say, I'm curious, but not enough to look it up and do the math.Went on the Oasis, it had over 5,000 people, and after boarding...the 2 weeks on it never seemed crowded. There was plenty to do zip line, several pools, night clubs, casino, wave rider, just to name a few of the options, we went from morning until 3 a.m. (was younger), and never felt bored or crowded. Just my 2 cent experience. Back on topic.
bethymouse
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You just have to know what to expect! Plus, a smile goes a long way!
Ali in Wonderland
Member
Amen! I am here now. It is VERY crowded. People are crazy. Lots of animals here now
ParentsOf4
Well-Known Member
I just have to look at how much I pay today for tickets versus how much I used to pay for tickets to get worked up.There should be a similar topic about how much the invention of the internet and digital/phone cameras are to blame for how many Disney fans went from loving the company to hating it now that they can all congregate together here and work each other up
eddiemcgarrigle
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Is the heat really to blame? 90% humidity here most times but without the heat of Florida's winter never mind summer. Waiting in long lines with long periods of no movement tends to make people cranky regardless, throw in those who think waiting is not for them and the fun will start.
Any trip where people have not done the slightest bit of research is also going to throw up problems, and increase tempers. You wouldn't turn up at the busiest restaurant in your home town and expect to snag a table without a reservation so why expect it at WDW?
Any trip where people have not done the slightest bit of research is also going to throw up problems, and increase tempers. You wouldn't turn up at the busiest restaurant in your home town and expect to snag a table without a reservation so why expect it at WDW?
UncleMike101
Well-Known Member
Yup......
Many of the angry people are victims of their own lack of planning and the attitude that they are entitled to be treated like royalty.
We were waiting on our table at the Brown Derby last Memorial Day and several times people came in and asked for a table. They were upset when they were told that the restaurant was booked for the evening.
OK.....
You're at WDW.
The most popular place on the planet.
It's a US Holiday.
And you think that you can casually stroll into a very popular restaurant and get a table for four at dinner time.
Even a tiny amount of planning would have told them that reservations are filled months in advance at WDW.
Courtney6682
Well-Known Member
Yup......
Many of the angry people are victims of their own lack of planning and the attitude that they are entitled to be treated like royalty.
We were waiting on our table at the Brown Derby last Memorial Day and several times people came in and asked for a table. They were upset when they were told that the restaurant was booked for the evening.
OK.....
You're at WDW.
The most popular place on the planet.
It's a US Holiday.
And you think that you can casually stroll into a very popular restaurant and get a table for four at dinner time.
Even a tiny amount of planning would have told them that reservations are filled months in advance at WDW.
Exactly! Mother's day 2011 my daugher and I walked up to Rose and Crown and tried to get in for lunch...wasn't gonna happen..guess what I did? THANKED the lady for her time, smiled, walked away and thought to myslef that YES that was stupid OF*** ME*** TO THINK THAT ON MOTHER'S DAY A WALK IN WAS A GOOD IDEA! I consider myself a noraml person beacuse I have manners and know how to behave...most of the world isn't normal sadly
ParentsOf4
Well-Known Member
Before WDW became what it is today:Yup......
Many of the angry people are victims of their own lack of planning and the attitude that they are entitled to be treated like royalty.
We were waiting on our table at the Brown Derby last Memorial Day and several times people came in and asked for a table. They were upset when they were told that the restaurant was booked for the evening.
OK.....
You're at WDW.
The most popular place on the planet.
It's a US Holiday.
And you think that you can casually stroll into a very popular restaurant and get a table for four at dinner time.
Even a tiny amount of planning would have told them that reservations are filled months in advance at WDW.
- There once was a time when customers were treated like royalty. There's a reason Disney historically refers to its customers as "Guests" and it's not because of the cynical corporate-speak of today's Disney. I know that if I treated my "Guests" the way Disney often does today, I wouldn't have any guests.
- There once was a time when tables didn't have to be booked 6 months in advance and walk-ups were actually welcomed! In the odd chance that the tables were full, the CM would call around and locate an empty table at another nearby restaurant.
- There once was a time where Disney actually built new attractions in order to keep pace with increased demand, rather than requiring "Guests" to book their "experiences" 60 days in advance because Disney is too cheap to actually add rides to keep up with the increased attendance.
- There once was a time when it didn't take reading the 1000 page "Unofficial Guide to Walt Disney World" in order to "plan" to have fun at WDW.
UncleMike101
Well-Known Member
Times change.
WDW has changed.
People must change.....
For example..
In the 50's, 60's, 70's, and most of the 80's, smoking was tolerated almost everywhere.
Including Disneyland and WDW.
There were ashtrays in the grocery stores, along public streets, in every public bathroom, most offices, and nearly everyones home.
Today smoking is treated like a national disaster and banned from almost everywhere.
In response to todays mores I quit smoking four years ago after doing so for over forty seven years.
I've adapted to the necessities of life in todays World.
Others must do the same if they intend to be at least moderately happy.
If those who won't adapt, would spend as much time and energy attempting to adapt, as they spend on reminiscing and bemoaning the past they would be a happier lot.
JMHO.......
ParentsOf4
Well-Known Member
WDW has not changed. Quite the opposite; WDW's problem is that it's mostly the same physical structure that it was 15 or even 20 years ago.
Instead, what's changed is the way corporate Disney treats its "Guests".
The concepts of Lean Manufacturing pervade today's WDW. "Guests" are now factory floor inventory to be optimized. Corporate Disney's goal is to maximize profits through operational efficiency. In this pecking order, "Guests" are a distant second.
UncleMike101
Well-Known Member
Make no mistake......
Disney pays close attention to it's Guests and their wants/needs.
As long as profits are rosy they will continue to make whatever changes they see as necessary to maximize profits.
But.....
I still say people must adapt or be frustrated.....
Or not patronize WDW.
seahawk7
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Misleading advertisement is redundant.
Lucky
Well-Known Member
But by your own logic, the more people adapt and lower their expectations, the less Disney will see any need to improve.
seahawk7
Well-Known Member
Yes and no. I'm a healthcare worker and can speak to how dehydration and heat exhaustion can affect a person.
betty rose
Well-Known Member
Four legged or two legged?Amen! I am here now. It is VERY crowded. People are crazy. Lots of animals here now
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Personal responsibility to stay hydrated and taking breaks out of heat on a regular basis.
seahawk7
Well-Known Member
Yes that would be the ideal but the heat can sneak up on people. It's all encompassing and especially if you are concerned about your schedule, staying hydrated can get away from you. I live in the southwest so I'm cognizant about staying hydrated in WDW but if people are not familiar with heat exhaustion and the symptoms they can easily think they have time for one more store or ride.Personal responsibility to stay hydrated and taking breaks out of heat on a regular basis.
I can't tell you how many people I have treated in the ER for hypoxia because they were not aware of the effects of going to a higher elevation from sea level. Imagine all the people who go to WDW and are not aware of how the heat and humidity can deplete them?