Rude Behavior And Temper Outbursts: How Much Is HEAT To Blame?

[Dwarful]

Betty Rose...I am green with envy. That is some seriously sweet humidity levels. I can see with changes like that it would be a HUGE adjustment for people to be outside (which is also probably a huge adjustment) in the heat.

 

[Dwarful]

Even more true for sub-tropical Florida. That summer sun is relentless, brutal and will fry your brain in 30 minutes. Well, not really fry your brain, but you feel like it. In the summer, I'm dripping with sweat just walking the 30 feet to my mail box. And unless you live here, you don't really understand how 95+ degrees with 95% humidity and no cloud cover affects the human body. And Central Florida, unlike the coasts, doesn't get the breezes off the ocean to help keep things cool. Visiting once a year doesn't prepare you. We say, not sure if it's true, that living in Florida thins out your blood. Which is why we freeze when it's 60 degrees. If it weren't for Mr. Carrier, the only things living in Florida would be alligators and mosquitos. I remember my mother sitting in the car in the drive way once with the a/c going full blast, putting on her makeup. And our house was air conditioned.

I hear ya with the summer sun. Here it gets to those same temps and high humidity..then you get the idiots at the ballpark who think downing one beer after another is a good idea...uh...no, not at all. As a 10 year veteran of the postal service I have to say I loved my summer months way more than my winter months...but I agree once I was out the door and on my walking route I was drenched in 30 minutes or less....and water sprinklers were my very best friend. I took igloo brand water jugs just to dump on my head to keep cool plus all the water I would drink all day long. Winter, I could tolerate the cold and snow but that ice really messes with your back and knees.

I think people fail to take enough breaks and don't keep hydrated enough ... water, water, water....and more water, water, water and less alcohol and soda.

 

[rct247]

I find people more irritable with larger crowds or rainy weather than I do with heat.

In the slow season, it's the helicopter super parents that get upset more when things arnt perfect. In the summer, American guests are more frustrated by the large influx of tour groups, during the holidays the ones that didn't plan or do research tend to be more grouchy, and then you have certain events like Night of Joy that being in people who are more easily upset and rude. Peak irritability tines are from noon to 4pm and 7pm to 10pm.

 

[betty rose]

I find people more irritable with larger crowds or rainy weather than I do with heat.

In the slow season, it's the helicopter super parents that get upset more when things arnt perfect. In the summer, American guests are more frustrated by the large influx of tour groups, during the holidays the ones that didn't plan or do research tend to be more grouchy, and then you have certain events like Night of Joy that being in people who are more easily upset and rude. Peak irritability tines are from noon to 4pm and 7pm to 10pm.

Sounds like my plan to leave the parks at noon is going to work!

 

[Arthur Wellesley]

And who do you think is responsible for putting that "dream vacation" in their minds?

Yep, you guessed it. And it's all misleading advertisement.

I find it very hard to believe that any of the DisneyParks TV ad's I've been seeing are in any way misleading.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to find the open grass field in front of Cinderella Castle where my kids can just run up to where Mickey, Minnie, and the gang will be waiting to hug them without ANY lines or crowds whatsoever.

 

[LauraRose]

The heat defiantly plays a huge part, my brother and mum are very pleasant and generally happy people who both adore disney, but can't handle heat at all. My brother would be out of the parks after 4 hours when his girlfriend didn't want to because the heat impacted his mood that much. My mum stuck it out but the last day of our trip was the hottest and she was incredible cranky and just wanted to go.

HOWEVER this being said, it is no excuse to be rude, disruptive and even in some cases aggressive especially to other guests. I get moody when I'm tired and hungry and I know the heat certainly doesn't help. But do I go around lashing out and shouting at people? Nope. I certainly feel like it when someone's just stopped with a huge pram (stroller) just talking and people are trying to get past. Or when you have one rammed in your leg and people push past you. It's easy to get heated but I think some people need to learn to bite their tongue, as you could potentially ruin someone else's day with your mood.

 

[Princess A]

I think everyone has it in them to be rude, but as has been said, you expect adults to have more of a lid on things than a child does. Disneyland Paris is the worst example of rudeness I have ever come across. Maybe it's my British sensibilities, but I was disgusted by some of the people at DLP, and it makes it worse when someone is insulting you in a language you don't understand. I find Europeans a lot ruder than Americans. I can understand that heat would play a large part, but I do think that sometimes people think they are owed more than they receive. I feel like this sometimes when people have children (especially young children). People spawn an attitude simply from pushing a buggy around, and there's no need for it. Everyone would have paid just as much to visit DW, and have the same rights to wait in line to meet a character as a family with children. I can imagine people get a lot more irritable when a child gets tired and then that affects everyone's mood in the party. This is just my opinion though.

 

[betty rose]

I find it very hard to believe that any of the DisneyParks TV ad's I've been seeing are in any way misleading.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to find the open grass field in front of Cinderella Castle where my kids can just run up to where Mickey, Minnie, and the gang will be waiting to hug them without ANY lines or crowds whatsoever.

 

[splashingatkali]

Couple years ago we had reservations at BOG, (in May on a hot day) lady in front of me continued to argue with the CM because she did not have reservations and wanted a table. CM was clear about the restaurant being booked and ADR are highly recommended. The lady had no interest in what the cast member was saying. She just wanted a table, like now!... She made a huge stink about it and started cursing in front of everyone. I think if you are going to Disney, before you go, DO THE RESEARCH. Heat is not excuse to be rude and ruin it for the kids and other guests. We were hot too and sometimes things don't go our way sometimes too. But you will never see us ruin anyone else time and hard money paid for the trip.
Just saying

 

[mf1972]

unlike many people on these boards who've been to WDW many times, people probably go down there without doing any research & don't know what to expect. then they'll have a hissy fit because things aren't going their way, hot weather or not.

 

[jloucks]

Heat is only one factor. In order of impact... IMHO...

1) Crowd Levels - This impacts and amplifies all things negative. Dealing with something while being pressed up against sweaty strangers is quite different than dealing with something while having some space.

2) Entitlement - While not primary, there has been a shift in society towards this.

3) Heat - An issue certainly, but if you eliminate #1 and #2 it virtually goes away.

4) Expectations - #1-3 amplify this as does ticket & lodging prices. If you pay a ton of cash, you expect a certain level of luxury and enjoyment. Not to be confused with unjustifiable entitlement, expectations are justified and reasonable to expect. You pay $50,000 for a car, you expect a certain level of luxury. You pay $7,000 for a week vacation, same thing. What you don't expect is #1. ...which is why it get's my top spot.

 

[Communicore]

I think most people are rude and have bad temper because they paid a boatload of $ and find out that the experience basically sucks.

 

[mf1972]

Heat is only one factor. In order of impact... IMHO...

1) Crowd Levels - This impacts and amplifies all things negative. Dealing with something while being pressed up against sweaty strangers is quite different than dealing with something while having some space.

2) Entitlement - While not primary, there has been a shift in society towards this.

3) Heat - An issue certainly, but if you eliminate #1 and #2 it virtually goes away.

4) Expectations - #1-3 amplify this as does ticket & lodging prices. If you pay a ton of cash, you expect a certain level of luxury and enjoyment. Not to be confused with unjustifiable entitlement, expectations are justified and reasonable to expect. You pay $50,000 for a car, you expect a certain level of luxury. You pay $7,000 for a week vacation, same thing. What you don't expect is #1. ...which is why it get's my top spot.

have to agree on #2. I think there's another board about this

 

[thomas998]

I think it more to do with the crowds than heat. I've gone to Disney for decades and only recently have I ever been the person escalating something to the next level to the point that my kids are trying to tell me to calm down... It wasn't any hotter than normal, in fact it was fairly cool at the time but it was because of line jumpers... Had I only had it happen to me on a rare occasion I probably wouldn't have bothered... but it was the straw that broke the camels back so to speak and I just flat out refused to budge for people trying to pass me in line to the point that I was ready to move on the physical level if that was what it came to... I'm sure to some folks it might have appeared that was trying for the a*s of the day award, but the reality is that I was just responding to the environment... If you stick me in a place where a normal line is an hour or more then don't expect me to be all giggles and grins if someone idiot tries to push past me in a line... I wont care if you have family or friends ahead or even if you just had to go back to use the restroom, i've heard every excuse and I wont believe any of them you are just a rude person trying to make me wait longer and in a crowded place that isn't going to happen whether its hot as blazes out or snow is gently falling, my time is valuable and I'm not to be trifled with in those conditions...

So no I don't think heat is the driver.

 

[TheJonesys]

Not in Disney, but the other day I took my children on an Easter egg hunt, as we went to go in the shop there were several older adults who were about to leave, my DD who is 10 opened the door for them and as they walked past not one of them said thank you, once they had all gone past I did comment (loudly) to hubby that not one had said thank you to her. I bet if she had pushed through the door they would have made comments about the youth of today. I am not perfect by any means, but I do try to be a good role model, it's just a shame that there are others who don't really care

 

[Lord_Vader]

I think a lot of people get very stressed anytime they are up for long periods of time and do not get enough rest. Too many people try to pack in as much as possible and after a few days they start getting cranky and everyone in the group feeds on it only making the group worse. The more pressure people put on themselves to do everything at a park in a day the worse it is, no matter which one they are in because they feel like they spent too much and didn't do it all.

We always have an easy day when we arrive, stay a few "extra" days to extend things out a bit so we never feel rushed or pushed to do something. We relax and do the parks at our pace, on our time and FP+ has really helped that a lot. We know we have so many days to hit our high points and do what we can between them but focus on having a good time and enjoying our time in the bubble.

 

[Lord_Vader]

Mostly its peoples impressions that THEIR WDW vacation is going to be stress free, a dream vacation like they see on the TV ads. All smiles and bliss and joy. Without doing any planning or research, just show up... They can walk on any of the rides with no lines or waits, get a table in any restaurant without a delay, watch any parade or show with a clear unobstructed view, go anywhere in the park without being jostled, bumped into or run over. Their dream impression of being at Disney is ruined 5 minutes after they encounter the real thing after they step into the parks. Patience goes out the window, frustration rises and they have to release their anger on any CM or guest thats within range. Then they think... I spent all that money for this ????

We have a friend who decided she didn't want any advice on WDW from us, she went there as a kid and knew what she was doing. Anyway, long story short, they stayed in a motel on 192 for $40/night that had free transportation but only made two trips per day so they were mad they had to pay for parking, drinks/food were more expensive than they budgeted so they skipped meals and purchased a two-day ticket believing they would be able to mow through all four parks in two days with no advance planning, no breaks with two small children and one 19yo, and were quite upset when lines were so long there was no way they would even ride all the MK rides and meet the princesses the girls wanted to meet. They never made it to any park other than MK and now believe the entire trip was a waste of their money because they did not have fun.

Funny thing is their daughters had a blast and going again is what they talk about six months later. M&D were stressed out of their minds but the kids have no clue, were just having fun.

 

[jloucks]

I think most people are rude and have bad temper because they paid a boatload of $ and find out that the experience basically sucks.

Well, it is sub par for a $7,000 experience. It would be pretty awesome for a $500 experience.

The HIGH price leads to perfectly reasonable set of expectations that you won't be overpacked. Shoot, just use whatever people per sq foot cruise ships use. Why is it they never seem as packed?!?

 

[Goofyernmost]

Well, it is sub par for a $7,000 experience. It would be pretty awesome for a $500 experience.

The HIGH price leads to perfectly reasonable set of expectations that you won't be overpacked. Shoot, just use whatever people per sq foot cruise ships use. Why is it they never seem as packed?!?

That would be because they stack them over multiple floors. Put them all on the same level and you have very close relationships that start to develop.

Also because 2500 people as opposed to 25000 - 30000 people could make a difference as well. If they could put more on those ships you can be assured that they would, but, there are not enough lifeboats.

 

[Courtney6682]

I get it. People are irritated when they are too hot, too cold, too hungry, too sleepy, etc... I expect outbursts.......... from toddlers. When I see an adult behaving badly or being rude I just think it is someone who for whatever reason can't control themselves. Much like a toddler. They either never learned proper coping skills, weren't brought up right, or they are just an ***hole. My two cents!

Agreed...you're either an animal or you're not. No matter how annoyed I might be in a certain situation or with a policy, I WOULD NEVER yell or curse at someone...especially if it was a 17 yr old employee...people who think they are tough yelling at teenagers or anyone for that matter are total pieces of s*it!