Rude Behavior And Temper Outbursts: How Much Is HEAT To Blame?

PhotoDave219

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A pregnant woman's nightmare - going into labor in the standby line at Peter Pan's Flight right after 3:00 PM on a hot, crowded holiday weekend. Is there an access to the utilidors over in Fantasyland? Can you imagine EMTs trying to push a gurney with a pregnant woman in active labor through stroller hell, I mean alley?! With the FoF parade going on? Quell nightmare!

Ready Creek Emergency Services will push through a crowd in a hurry when there is a medical emergency. They do not care about offending.
 

LAKid53

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You can get glasses of ice water. There are water fountains everywhere. Or you can buy your own. Whether people realize it or not, you need one nice tall glass of ice water per hour in the middle of that Florida heat.

(For those that drink around the world, the trick is to drink as much water as you just drank alcohol)

So yes, the heat may contribute to people being unpleasant but thats on them as well. Adults know well enough to drink water when theyre thirsty. Kids? Not so much.

@LAKid53 - I would hope that they now take more water breaks. Ive seen that be a common thing in youth/high school sports when the temperature/humidity is above a certain point. Glad your kid is okay, hope they made some changes.

Yes, that was way back in the 5th grade. At the time, she was frightened of riding in the ambulance. Now, it's a great story to tell her friends. Mama still doesn't see her humor in it....
 

LAKid53

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Ready Creek Emergency Services will push through a crowd in a hurry when there is a medical emergency. They do not care about offending.

That's nice to know. My fear was going into labor after getting stuck on the elevator at work. Heck, my fear was getting stuck on the elevator at work, especially once I hit the "I have to pee every 2 minutes" stage. The stairs at work were somewhat slippery and I didn't want to risk a fall once I hit the 6-7 months period.
 

JIMINYCR

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Mostly its peoples impressions that THEIR WDW vacation is going to be stress free, a dream vacation like they see on the TV ads. All smiles and bliss and joy. Without doing any planning or research, just show up... They can walk on any of the rides with no lines or waits, get a table in any restaurant without a delay, watch any parade or show with a clear unobstructed view, go anywhere in the park without being jostled, bumped into or run over. Their dream impression of being at Disney is ruined 5 minutes after they encounter the real thing after they step into the parks. Patience goes out the window, frustration rises and they have to release their anger on any CM or guest thats within range. Then they think... I spent all that money for this ???? :arghh:
 

LAKid53

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Mostly its peoples impressions that THEIR WDW vacation is going to be stress free, a dream vacation like they see on the TV ads. All smiles and bliss and joy. Without doing any planning or research, just show up... They can walk on any of the rides with no lines or waits, get a table in any restaurant without a delay, watch any parade or show with a clear unobstructed view, go anywhere in the park without being jostled, bumped into or run over. Their dream impression of being at Disney is ruined 5 minutes after they encounter the real thing after they step into the parks. Patience goes out the window, frustration rises and they have to release their anger on any CM or guest thats within range. Then they think... I spent all that money for this ???? :arghh:

I would think their dream impression would be spoiled once they get off the bus/boat/monorail and see the line at bag check......
 

ItlngrlBella

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A big part of it is more people don't carry themselves with respect and therefore don't treat others with respect - and they are failing to teach their kids to do the same.

When I recruited for a State U, I visited high schools up until my due dates - it was OBVIOUS that I was VERY pregnant. Instead of holding a door open, kids would allow the door close on me as I struggled to roll/drag my lit case - then they practically run me down in the busy hallways. Every so often one would open a door for me or offer to help - I'd make it a point to thank them.

Where's the common courtesy today?
(Damn, I sound like an old fart), but it's true.

Also - chivalry - I hear it used to exist before some "womyn" deemed it to be sexist. :cautious:

The only place I see chivalry is at WDW... with the princes. That's sad is that?!? Most of us girls/ladies LOVE it. :inlove:

Want to pick up the ladies? CHIVALRY.
 
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mf1972

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I think it's more of people's attitudes nowadays. I sound like my dad here, but some people seem not to know how to show manners or respect anymore.
my dad blames reality tv a bit. people see other people act like morons & act as if this is acceptable behavior now.
that's his 2 cents. after reading some of these posts, he might be onto something.
 

HauntedMansionFLA

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I've noticed an increase of:

this type of crowd

...vacationing at WDW over the last 10ish years.

Oh, and hey, I am not trashing the Walmart-shopping crowd. I was just at Walmart today, I find joy in Goodwill treasures and love a good garage sale - my point is, it's the way in which you behave and carry yourself.

The link above showcases the worst of the worst but I have seen similar examples at WDW.

3 simple rules:

1. Cover your naughty/fun and jiggly bits.
2. Treat others as you would like to be treated.
3. Show some respect to CM's - at least use please & thank you.
I really like people watching at WDW but haven't been there in a couple of years. I noticed the change in what people wear or hardly wear on the last trip down. Yes, people wearing what I would say are pajamas to the parks ( what I would see at walmart ) I always dress nice but comfortable to the parks, smile and say hello to people ( will ask families if they want their pictures taken when I see one of the parents with a camera ) and be friendly to the cast members. The CM probably have to put up with a lot more rude behavior from not so friendly visitors then we could even think could happen.
 

LAKid53

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A big part of it is more people don't carry themselves with respect and therefore don't treat others with respect - and they are failing to teach their kids to do the same.

When I recruited for a State U, I visited high schools up until my due dates - it was OBVIOUS that I was VERY pregnant. Instead of holding a door open, kids would allow the door close on me as I struggled to roll/drag my lit case - then they practically run me down in the busy hallways. Every so often one would open a door for me or offer to help - I'd make it a point to thank them.

Where's the common courtesy today?
(Damn, I sound like an old fart), but it's true.

Also - chivalry - I hear it used to exist before some "womyn" deemed it to be sexist. :cautious:

The only place I see chivalry is at WDW... with the princes. That's sad is that?!? Most of us girls/ladies LOVE it. :inlove:

Want to pick up the ladies? CHIVALRY.

Not sure if I want to go back to those days, but I am dismayed at the lack of common courtesy. I don't mind a man holding the door open for me, especially if I have my hands full; I would do the same for him. I just don't want him to think he HAS to do it. I can open my own door, but if someone wants to open it for me, then go for it! I'll will take the path of least resistance.

I would say want to pick up the ladies, be courteous, polite, engaged (and I don't mean in your phone). Make her the center of your attention. Look in her eyes, not elsewhere on her anatomy. And the same goes for ladies. I hear stories from my male friends all the time about how they can't find a nice girl to date. And I don't mean a prude, just a nice, pleasant, engaging woman to go to dinner with. One who isn't engaged in her phone, either. I think because we, especially folks younger than me, have become so engaged with the electronic device in our hand, we've lost the art of conversation. Which business schools now have to teach. We are a species that thrives on communication - verbal and non-verbal. Your phone cannot give that to you or anyone else.
 

Goofyernmost

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Not sure if I want to go back to those days, but I am dismayed at the lack of common courtesy. I don't mind a man holding the door open for me, especially if I have my hands full; I would do the same for him. I just don't want him to think he HAS to do it. I can open my own door, but if someone wants to open it for me, then go for it! I'll will take the path of least resistance.

I would say want to pick up the ladies, be courteous, polite, engaged (and I don't mean in your phone). Make her the center of your attention. Look in her eyes, not elsewhere on her anatomy. And the same goes for ladies. I hear stories from my male friends all the time about how they can't find a nice girl to date. And I don't mean a prude, just a nice, pleasant, engaging woman to go to dinner with. One who isn't engaged in her phone, either. I think because we, especially folks younger than me, have become so engaged with the electronic device in our hand, we've lost the art of conversation. Which business schools now have to teach. We are a species that thrives on communication - verbal and non-verbal. Your phone cannot give that to you or anyone else.
The thing is that courtesy is not a gender thing. It is a human thing. I always hold the door for people coming behind me, male or female. When too much emphasis is placed on Women that is when it goes out the window. Men or Women should be courteous in both directions, it's not a female privilege. It all gets very confusing to sort out.

Example: How many times have we heard that men should give up their seat on the bus because there is a woman standing. Why? Are women weak? Are they unable to stand as long as men are? Obviously Pregnant... Yes, absolutely, I will give my seat. Elder (of which I am one)... Yes, but, I sometimes have to determine if I am older then they are. Kids... No, they are much better equipped to stand then I am at this time of my life or any other as far as that goes. I'm afraid the days of the "weaker sex are gone". We will all have to live with it and over time we will all figure out just what we should and shouldn't do, but, if we treated everything and everybody with equal courtesy, that should go a long way to at least obtain some balance.

Women's Lib. did change a lot of rules and expectations, some good, some bad. I doubt we would be seeing women in CEO positions like we do now if it had not been for it. However, some of the more basic things have just gotten muddled down in the details of expectations.
 

raven

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Mostly its peoples impressions that THEIR WDW vacation is going to be stress free, a dream vacation like they see on the TV ads. All smiles and bliss and joy. Without doing any planning or research, just show up... They can walk on any of the rides with no lines or waits, get a table in any restaurant without a delay, watch any parade or show with a clear unobstructed view, go anywhere in the park without being jostled, bumped into or run over. Their dream impression of being at Disney is ruined 5 minutes after they encounter the real thing after they step into the parks. Patience goes out the window, frustration rises and they have to release their anger on any CM or guest thats within range. Then they think... I spent all that money for this ???? :arghh:

And who do you think is responsible for putting that "dream vacation" in their minds?

Yep, you guessed it. And it's all misleading advertisement.
 

Disvillain63

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Do most WDW guests live in an area with low heat and humidity during the summer that turns them into some type of heat phobic lunatics? I live near St. Louis and it is high heat and humidity from May to Oct. and it is morning, noon and night...no evening cool down....that's just when the lightning bugs and mosquitos come out...lol.

I do agree that it is society that has changed. People have no understanding of others feelings. It is very sad. Many people make no effort in getting dressed for the day...I can't tell you how many people on our flight were wearing pajama pants or yoga pants...that weren't appropriately covering everything as they were being stretched beyond measure.
I am one of three teachers that help the children get out of cars in the morning. The number of moms and dads wearing their pjs and drive their Pre-K to 3rd graders to school is unbelieveable. We've even had moms drive thru wearing teddies!
 

betty rose

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Do most WDW guests live in an area with low heat and humidity during the summer that turns them into some type of heat phobic lunatics? I live near St. Louis and it is high heat and humidity from May to Oct. and it is morning, noon and night...no evening cool down....that's just when the lightning bugs and mosquitos come out...lol.

I do agree that it is society that has changed. People have no understanding of others feelings. It is very sad. Many people make no effort in getting dressed for the day...I can't tell you how many people on our flight were wearing pajama pants or yoga pants...that weren't appropriately covering everything as they were being stretched beyond measure.
Live in Denver our humidity level in winter is 3% summer 10%, and at my age almost 67...can't do it any more see earlier post as to what I can do this June....Besides she is 20+ years younger, and loves (Disney, as much as I do). But she has always had more stamina then I. Too bad we are all the same and can tolerate heat and humidity...never my thing. But more power to those who can:joyfull:
 

betty rose

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The thing is that courtesy is not a gender thing. It is a human thing. I always hold the door for people coming behind me, male or female. When too much emphasis is placed on Women that is when it goes out the window. Men or Women should be courteous in both directions, it's not a female privilege. It all gets very confusing to sort out.

Example: How many times have we heard that men should give up their seat on the bus because there is a woman standing. Why? Are women weak? Are they unable to stand as long as men are? Obviously Pregnant... Yes, absolutely, I will give my seat. Elder (of which I am one)... Yes, but, I sometimes have to determine if I am older then they are. Kids... No, they are much better equipped to stand then I am at this time of my life or any other as far as that goes. I'm afraid the days of the "weaker sex are gone". We will all have to live with it and over time we will all figure out just what we should and shouldn't do, but, if we treated everything and everybody with equal courtesy, that should go a long way to at least obtain some balance.

Women's Lib. did change a lot of rules and expectations, some good, some bad. I doubt we would be seeing women in CEO positions like we do now if it had not been for it. However, some of the more basic things have just gotten muddled down in the details of expectations.
Wow, holding a door for anyone is such a nice gesture.:happy:
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
Or people can just take personal responsibility for their actions instead of blaming disney for their advertising. It's not disney, it's not weather, it's not crowds. It's jerk people that don't care for their neighbor. Blaming someone or something else for your own behavior is the easy way out.
 

LAKid53

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Premium Member
I am one of three teachers that help the children get out of cars in the morning. The number of moms and dads wearing their pjs and drive their Pre-K to 3rd graders to school is unbelieveable. We've even had moms drive thru wearing teddies!

Seriously?! Imagine explaining that outfit to the cop who pulls your over. "Yes, officer, I think all my parts that have to be covered are covered...."
 

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