Lucky
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Actually, she's complained numerous times on this thread and others about how mousekeeping didn't clean her DVC room at AKL.
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Rope Lights Outlining Roofs on Deluxe Resorts Diminishing?
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Whats most upsetting is the simple fact that it is just LIGHT BULBS!!!!!! Probly one of the most easy things to replace. Its not an advanced AA like Yeti needing repairs, Its not an attraction in dire need of a refurb, its not the rotating platform at Garden Grill, Its not a decaying monorail fleet, its not an attraction capacity issue, its not a paint job for Space Mountain, its not designing a back up system for when MM+ crashes again,...its just LIGHT BULBS! Effin' light bulbs.
Get a damn maintenance crew up there, tell them to unscrew the blown bulb then screw a new one in the empty socket. How hard is that? FTW
Get a damn maintenance crew up there, tell them to unscrew the blown bulb then screw a new one in the empty socket. How hard is that? FTW
Animaniac93-98
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First, you have to put in a request to the Office of Ladders and Equipment, at least 65 days out (on average), saying you would like to use some of their tools for the job.
Then you have to contact the Department of Bulbs and Fixtures to see if they have enough light bulbs in stock. If Ladders and Equipment have not formally responed and approved your request or if they do not have enough bulbs, the project will likely be delayed by 12-18 months.
Then you have to tell the Interior Commission for Safety and Screw-Up Prevention that you may be sending people up x number of feet above the ground and some cords and harnesses might be needed. Getting a yes answer from them may require Cogressional approval.
If ALL THAT has been finalized, you then have to contact the GM of Grand and Reedey Creek to see if there is any planned construction around the hotel during your planned bulb replacement. The state's Attorney General will likely step in to mediate the whole process of negotiations, along with some impartial local religious officials.
Finally, the Union may not feel like doing anything at all and axe the whole project.
Does that answer your question?
Brad Bishop
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I think this is it.
I like chaser lights on coasters. Six Flags Over Georgia used to have them on the Mindbenders and the Great American Scream Machine. 30 years ago they consistently worked. Then, as they repainted the rides, they didn't seem to remove the lights to do it but left them on and spray painted away. Sometimes the bulbs would have paint. Sometimes they wouldn't. As time went on you just sort of shrugged your shoulders and thought, "Yeah, that's Six Flags," in a disappointed sort of way.
Eventually they had sections of the chaser lights fail so if you had a sequence of lights, 1-5, and that made the chaser part, then say, sequence 2, all the way through the entire string of lights, failed and they never fixed it. So you ended up with chase-dark/pause-chase-chase-chase. Eventually other sequences failed and you had something really stupid like: chase-dark-dark-dark-chase.
It never got better. It only got worse. At some point in the late-1980s or early 1990s they simply lost the initiative to fix them.
None of that even accounts for bulbs that were out that they wouldn't replace. It really looked like crap.
Of course you could argue: but the coaster functioned the same and it still left the station, went through the circuit, and came back. Yep. It all worked the same. It was still disappointing and a bit of an eye-sore with the lights as the years wore on.
They eventually removed the chaser lights from both coasters and now they're just dark with maybe a few flood lights on them. The traditional, neat effect is lost, though. I really wish someone would make the decision to bring them back in LED form (they'd still need to maintain them and not just spray over them when painting the ride).
It kind of comes down to this: If you're running the park do you give a crap?
If you don't, you end up like Six Flags.
Over the last 5 years or so the management at Six Flags seems to be trying to make things better. The park is nicer. The employees are nicer. The park is cleaner. There were a good 10-15 years of crap-everything that left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths. It's easier to keep a customer with quality, than it is to lose a customer and to try to win them back. Lots of people stopped going to Six Flags because it became so crappy.
Goofyernmost
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I assume now that you all have vented that your way is the only correct way, that you can now settle down and realize that the likelihood of those lights ever returning are almost zero. Maybe now you can lick your wounds an start the healing process. Glad you all feel better now though. 
The reason why I worded it that way I did was that I knew that, on this board anyway, there would be very few that agreed with me. The wonderful thing is... you don't have too. However, I do have a right to my opinion, which I gave, along with the reasons why I feel that way. The rest have just come up with, "I like them" or "other places have them" so therefore it is just wonderful. I don't feel that way! Sorry about that. Whatever will happen will happen. If they put them back up, I'll be fine with it because it really means so little to me. If they don't, I'll be fine with that too for the same reason.
The reason why I worded it that way I did was that I knew that, on this board anyway, there would be very few that agreed with me. The wonderful thing is... you don't have too. However, I do have a right to my opinion, which I gave, along with the reasons why I feel that way. The rest have just come up with, "I like them" or "other places have them" so therefore it is just wonderful. I don't feel that way! Sorry about that. Whatever will happen will happen. If they put them back up, I'll be fine with it because it really means so little to me. If they don't, I'll be fine with that too for the same reason.
Goofyernmost
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Abandoning original designs is a concept originally instituted by Walt himself when he said that Disneyland will always be changing. I don't think he was thinking about rafter and fascia lights in particular, but, the fact that trends and tastes change and that because of that some things will stay and some things will go.
Now it is possible that they decided to trash them because it was to much hassle to constantly be changing light bulbs, but, it really is one of the many things that are just not important to ones stay in GF nor, do I think that it should be placed in the same identification standing with the actual Theme Park. It's not a Theme Park, but the Hotel Theme of a quality, posh place to stay is still there and that is what people pay the big price for. The lights are OK if they are there, but, do not alter the hotel experience in any non-imagined way. No one is now going to say, well, that's place is just a Rodeway Inn on steroids. I'm never going to go there again.
Goofyernmost
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Because it's a discussion board, not an 'if you don't agree with me, don't bother to post', board. I've given my reasons for my opinion, as the rest of you have given yours. There is good chance that we can move on now, if you will let us.
You do realise they aren't, don't you?
Hence the LED system fitted to the DVC wing. The expectation was they would also be fitted to the 1988 buildings too.
Goofyernmost
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No Martin, I don't realize that and I'm not really concerned. They are gone now and I like it better. Just a difference of opinion. Just like the spires on GMR, if they are there I won't mind, if they are not, I like the looks better without them.
Goofyernmost
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He would have built EPCOT the way he wanted and not cared all that much about the rest of it.
Nothing wrong with that.
Word on the street is when DLPs Newport Bay completes its 3 year refurb next year, all its rim lighting will be replaced with LED. And similar for the Disneyland Hotel after that.
I've seen the former look good and I've seen the former look bad. I've also seen half of the latter completely fail as if on cue.
So it's not as if the companies resorts are avoiding upgrading the show lighting.
I've seen the former look good and I've seen the former look bad. I've also seen half of the latter completely fail as if on cue.
So it's not as if the companies resorts are avoiding upgrading the show lighting.
lazyboy97o
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Your opinion doesn't change historical fact. It seems you have a weird love with breaking theme.I assume now that you all have vented that your way is the only correct way, that you can now settle down and realize that the likelihood of those lights ever returning are almost zero. Maybe now you can lick your wounds an start the healing process. Glad you all feel better now though.
The reason why I worded it that way I did was that I knew that, on this board anyway, there would be very few that agreed with me. The wonderful thing is... you don't have too. However, I do have a right to my opinion, which I gave, along with the reasons why I feel that way. The rest have just come up with, "I like them" or "other places have them" so therefore it is just wonderful. I don't feel that way! Sorry about that. Whatever will happen will happen. If they put them back up, I'll be fine with it because it really means so little to me. If they don't, I'll be fine with that too for the same reason.
Its the sum of the parts that make up the whole. While pesky little things such as light bulbs are not a big deal individually, they are in fact a small detail that helps complete an overall image that in turn plays a role in the experience. Disney uses that word (experience) constantly in advertising, on their blogs and in any way they can to make their image more appealing. They sell you that very experience.
At what point do all the pesky, nit picky, teeny tiny details start to have a cumulative effect on the overall experience? For someone like yourself it may take quite a bit before it begins to alter your experience but there has to be a breaking point. The deterioration starts with the tiny details and if left unchecked it will only be allowed to happen with larger aspects because as far as the company is concerned, no one seemed to care. It could take quite awhile for that breaking point to actually happen, but when it does, all the people who thought that burnt out light bulbs didnt matter will be wondering how the experience became so different than it was 10 years ago. Kinda like how people feel about the WDW of the 90's now.
Ive seen you say on several occasions that if it ever got to that point you would simply stop going. But is that the best attitude to have? "Ride it till the wheels off"? Some of us would prefer to simply change the oil and balance the tires and keep it going. If you care about something, all of it, not just part of it, you understand that the tiniest part is just as important as the largest part. Probly how Walt felt about it, IMO.
unkadug
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It's called declining by degrees. You never notice this one thing or that one thing doesn't bother you at all....until the park resembles a Six Flags and you just stop going.
I'd prefer to stop the degrees by being vocal about them then to sit back and say "whatever" and let the resort go to hell in a hand basket
I'd prefer to stop the degrees by being vocal about them then to sit back and say "whatever" and let the resort go to hell in a hand basket
sxeensweet
Love a little Disney every day!! ;)
I feel the same way and still feel Disney is well above anyone else. I went to Uni In 2013 and the difference is night and day!, so I don't see how some lights out brings it down in quality enough to gripe about. Disney still far surpasses ANY and all competition so that is where my opinion comes from. I breathe Disney so yes I do care just as much as any fellow Disney addict but still don't stress and get bothered by things like the lights at the Resorts! It's not like they are out in the parks! But I'm sure there are some people quick to point that out and will probably tell me I must have missed that too. Lol
Oh and another thing I HIGHLY DOUBT LIKE THE ABOVE SAID IT COULD GO DOWN IN QUALITY AND END UP LIKE SIX FLAGS!!!!!! I have been to many Six Flags parks as well and still difference is night and day!!! Never dreaded leaving any other park to where I get depressed! Only Disney does that to me! Lol. Sorry if I'm not gloom and doom that these little things will lead to the park's demise or downfall!!!
unkadug
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Please read the declining by degrees post. If you let this slide, where does it stop?I feel the same way and still feel Disney is well above anyone else. I went to Uni In 2013 and the difference is night and day!, so I don't see how some lights out brings it down in quality enough to gripe about. Disney still far surpasses ANY and all competition so that is where my opinion comes from. I breathe Disney so yes I do care just as much as any fellow Disney addict but still don't stress and get bothered by things like the lights at the Resorts! It's not like they are out in the parks! But I'm sure there are some people quick to point that out and will probably tell me I must have missed that too. Lol
sxeensweet
Love a little Disney every day!! ;)
Obviously yall do not read my posts over the years! I have been on here since 2008 and Yes I have voiced a lot on here when they turned Main St bakery into Starbucks and Starbucks goods replaced all the good old delecious MSB staples with lackluster Starbucks brand items and left a few cookies and cupcakes that were Disney. So that is one type of "big" change I did not like and don't find that nitpicky like some silly lights. MSB should have stayed the same and just ADDED Starbuck's coffee. Also I have voiced problems with mousekeeping not showing up or doing their job as expected and vices about their rudeness, and restaurant quality issues with cold, tasteless food and bad service!! So yes I do have complaints but not about some MEASLEY lights at the resorts not even at the PARKS!!!!! Still always have a wonderful time and think positive and don't turn into a negative Nancy because these things happened!!!! I GET OVER IT!!!! I complain to the right people and move on!
sxeensweet
Love a little Disney every day!! ;)
No I know the schedule every 4th/8th day etc and they never came at all when supposed to this last trip late 2014 when we were there for 13 days to change our essentials out and then also one full clean as you get one of those of you are there at least 8 nights! We had previous DVC stays before this last one with no problems! Also our room is easy to do because we are not messy and it's just me and DH. I know my contract stipulations!! I also never joined DVC until May 2013. Also for your information the last 3 nights of it were a cash stay. Still had an instance with the cash stay portion too, and not just the many problems we had on tbe DVC portion for the first 9 nights!! We had many visits prior and stayed on property at the Deluxe resorts as REGULAR guests!!! I KNOW MOYSEKEEPING DOES NOT COME EVERY DAY like a regular guest!!!!! They are supposed to come every 4th day!!!! They did not do that and took pulling teeth to get them to come and when they did they couldn't even take out all the little trash we had and replace all the towels , toilet paper etc!!!!! And we had several other problems with them in the same stay last Nov 14. Get your story straight and don't assume I don't know they do not come every day!! I know the rules of DVC!
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