News Roger E. Broggie overhaul

[JoeCamel]

At this rate as long as these are still steam powered I don’t mind the upgrades. It still hurts to see steam locomotives be converted to diesel power; Six Flags Over Georgia and PortAventura in Spain did such in 2005 and the 2010s, respectively.

I thought they ran this fleet on biodiesel?

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I thought they ran this fleet on biodiesel?

I think they were referring to “diesel power” as in non-steam diesel powered engines.

 

[JoeCamel]

I think they were referring to “diesel power” as in non-steam diesel powered engines.

diesel/electric

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

diesel/electric

Not necessarily - the ones in Atlanta they referred to are direct drive I believe.

 

[disneytrain2001]

Not necessarily - the ones in Atlanta they referred to are direct drive I believe.

Yeah, they gutted the tenders up with diesel motors... -_-

 

[Captain Barbossa]

Technically they aren’t wrong and many tourist rr’s and museums often are in violation of osha rules.

There seems to be a good many tourist railroads and museums that run steam that still use water towers and/or spouts, but a lot just run a hose (about the size of a fire hose) that connects directly to the bottom of the tank/tender.

This now makes me wonder how they’re gonna do the behind the scenes tour

When Roger went to Strasburg and they moved Roy to Main Street, Lilly became the tour locomotive. So while it was brief, they already have some experience doing the tour with a computerized locomotive.

once that starts up again.

I'm kind of surprised they haven't restarted it already. And by surprised I mean disappointed

I don’t expect it to return, unfortunately. Glad I did it when I had the chance.

 

[MaximumEd]

That’s a bummer. I always wanted to take the steam trains tour.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

There seems to be a good many tourist railroads and museums that run steam that still use water towers and/or spouts, but a lot just run a hose (about the size of a fire hose) that connects directly to the bottom of the tank/tender.

Yes I’ve seen it done that way at a few locations.

My favorite is the Henry Ford museum in Michigan - they have a water tower, water spout, AND the only regularly used coal tower. Usually once a day they use the coal tower to fill the tender - it’s so cool!

 

[disneytrain2001]

For sure! Lilly's in particular was just a different tone than Walters and Rogers. Those two I honestly couldn't tell apart but if Lily or Roy was approaching the station I could easily call it. And it was fun to do. Here comes number four Roy. And I guess we just look at you and then realize " Oh my god how did you know?"

You need to understand that I have autism, which means I'm very detail oriented by looking carefully at the whistles and identify its appearance, chamber shapes, sound, and what type of different brand they came from.

 

[disneytrain2001]

This now makes me wonder how they’re gonna do the behind the scenes tour once that starts up again. However I don’t see too much changes.

You need to ask the WDWRR cast member on Instagram.

 

[disneytrain2001]

I wonder why Tweetsie decided to paint it that way...the Disney era colors are much better in my opinion. Part of me is also still wondering who wanted to change the tender and text design on Roger; the changes make Roger stand out a lot.

Maybe they're out of Disney dark green color. :/

 

[disneytrain2001]

That’s definitely not how that should look!!!!

Sorry, but I don't think they're going move Lilly's automatic ignition box towards the rear of her cab, because I believe the wires are too long and would interfere with the rails.

 

[dtng2000]

Not necessarily - the ones in Atlanta they referred to are direct drive I believe.

Six Flags Over Georgia uses diesel hydraulic power. But I think the drive wheels on the locomotive are still active, similar to what you said, unlike most other steam outlines where the tender is pushing the locomotive.

 

[disneytrain2001]

And if you wanna talk about people being hard on the trainee/overreacting about the incident, haven’t you been a little hard on the trainee/overreacted about the incident yourself?

No, I'm not mad with the trainee who have accidentally spin Lilly's wheels, I was mad with those inconsiderate and over-reacting jerks on Twitter not giving her a chance to prove herself to be worthy as an engineer. Anyways, I'm glad the trainee learned her lesson after that little wheel slipping incident because I know it was only an accident, which almost backfired!

 

[twilight mitsuk]

Six Flags Over Georgia uses diesel hydraulic power. But I think the drive wheels on the locomotive are still active, similar to what you said, unlike most other steam outlines where the tender is pushing the locomotive.

Same setup as the wildlife express

 

[Captain Barbossa]

Going over the original concept art for the locomotives. Here’s Roger’s

Roger was originally supposed to be the 2-6-0, which was reassigned to be the Lilly Belle. Today, the 2-6-0 looks exactly the same as its original concept art, with exception to the name & number change and the sanders.

 

[dtng2000]

So then I would assume the 4-4-0 ultimately would have been Lilly Belle unless there was another name planned at the time.

 

[Captain Barbossa]

So then I would assume the 4-4-0 ultimately would have been Lilly Belle

That was the plan. Unfortunately, there is no original concept art of the 4-4-0. Publicly available, at least.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

So then I would assume the 4-4-0 ultimately would have been Lilly Belle unless there was another name planned at the time.

Which would have made perfect sense - since the actual Lilly Belle Locomotive was a 4-4-0! Would have been incredible to label the tender Carolwood Pacific

 

[dtng2000]

I actually now wonder if the bell on the Liberty Belle was Roger’s original bell before the swap. I know that there was a bell swap since Roger hated the old bell on the locomotive.