Rock (Dwayne Johnson) and WDI Partner on Jungle Cruise Updates

Bairstow

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Will there be a pie stand nearby?
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Disney Irish

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Hope that never happens. Not only would it be an unnecessary IP addition, but it would clash with the jungle theme.

Actually it would fit right in because of the extensive Polynesian jungles. Adventureland already has a heavy Polynesian theme, so this would be an extension of that.


I'm aware of that rumor for WDW, but that doesn't apply to DLR. My statement was about DLR specifically, on how they can extend JC to include a Polynesian section. It would make DLR JC experience more unique to DLR and not a duplicate of what the other parks have.
 

Californian Elitist

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Actually it would fit right in because of the extensive Polynesian jungles. Adventureland already has a heavy Polynesian theme, so this would be an extension of that.



I'm aware of that rumor for WDW, but that doesn't apply to DLR. My statement was about DLR specifically, on how they can extend JC to include a Polynesian section. It would make DLR JC experience more unique to DLR and not a duplicate of what the other parks have.

So you're suggesting adding a Polynesian theme to the ride, just to add a Maui animatronic. Still don't like the sound of that.

I disagree that Adventureland has a heavy Polynesian theme. The only Polynesian attraction/area of Adventureland is the entrance and the Enchanted Tiki Room. Once you pass that, you hit Aladdin's Oasis, which is clearly not Polynesian-themed. You then hit Jungle Cruise, Tarzan, and Indy, all of which contribute to the 1930's adventure/jungle/explorer theme, which is Adventureland's main theme, and is therefore the "heavy" part. Nothing Polynesian about Jungle Cruise, Tarzan, and Indy.

I'm all for expanding the Polynesian aspect of Adventureland, but doing so with Jungle Cruise? It doesn't make sense to me, especially if Disney movie characters are to be implemented (seriously, the ride has survived just fine without Disney characters, it doesn't need them). Maybe it's because I don't think of jungles when I hear Polynesia, but tropical islands. If anything, Disney should take out Aladdin's Oasis and use the area to expand the Polynesian theme. Put something similar to Tahitian Terrace there.
 

Disney Irish

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So you're suggesting adding a Polynesian theme to the ride, just to add a Maui animatronic. Still don't like the sound of that.

I disagree that Adventureland has a heavy Polynesian theme. The only Polynesian attraction/area of Adventureland is the entrance and the Enchanted Tiki Room. Once you pass that, you hit Aladdin's Oasis, which is clearly not Polynesian-themed. You then hit Jungle Cruise, Tarzan, and Indy, all of which contribute to the 1930's adventure/jungle/explorer theme, which is Adventureland's main theme, and is therefore the "heavy" part. Nothing Polynesian about Jungle Cruise, Tarzan, and Indy.

I'm all for expanding the Polynesian aspect of Adventureland, but doing so with Jungle Cruise? It doesn't make sense to me, especially if Disney movie characters are to be implemented (seriously, the ride has survived just fine without Disney characters, it doesn't need them). Maybe it's because I don't think of jungles when I hear Polynesia, but tropical islands. If anything, Disney should take out Aladdin's Oasis and use the area to expand the Polynesian theme. Put something similar to Tahitian Terrace there.

You do know that prior to Tarzan (as is still the case in other Magic Kingdom Parks) it was Swiss Family Robinson which had a very Oceania theme (which includes Polynesia). So Adventureland was heavily themed in the region for many decades.

My point is that given the limited space of the area I would be ok if they added a Polynesian aspect to Jungle Cruise. Now I would also be ok if they got rid of Aladdin as well. But I rather see Moana references add into an attraction rather than a food place. But that is just my preference.
 

Mr Ferret 75

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Not sure if you are being sarcastic but thats a really interesting way to look at it. Is the Mona Lisa anymore of a masterpiece then the fully realized 3D environments and artistry of The Jungle Cruise, POTC or HM? I don't think so. Why is it that all of these attractions entertained people for 50 years and all of a sudden they need a Johnny Depp or The Rock AA to be interesting?
Having firsthand seen the Mona Lisa i don't get the hype. There are a lot more impressive paintings (in scale and detail) all around the Louvre.
 

No Name

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I would not mind a few Rock AAs if it does not change the overall tone of the ride.

Not really. Disney builds what it expects will draw the most customers and make the most money, and it's always been this way. Any customer who considers Disneyland a colleague or partner or some sort of two way relationship is foolish. Everything they do is designed to benefit the business more than it benefits you.



To be fair not everything Disney has built stateside in recent years has been IP based.

Also note that while expertly executed in classic Disney fashion Mystc Manor and Grizzly Gulch have not been the big game changing attractions that Disney and it's Hong Kong investors hoped they would be.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.lati...-hong-kong-disneyland-20170221-story,amp.html

Whether this means HK visitors want more identifiable Disney IP experiences at HKDL I don't know, but the strategy sure seems to be working to drive growth at Disney resorts elsewhere.

I think it's more that they added no rides for over three years after Mystic Manor opened. Attendance was on the upswing and the park became profitable for the first time, but then they let that momentum die.
 

BrianLo

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Not to strictly take this off topic, but the Hong Kong Expansion was definitely a success. What we've seen the last two years is that the full brunt of it wasn't sustained, for many reasons, some related to general Hong Kong tourism issues.

The park went from ranging between 4-5 million annually to a peak of 7.6 settling to a low of 6. It's a trough, but it's still sitting 2 million above its previous lows. I'd say a 30-40% attendance uptick isn't people shirking the new attractions.

It's also losing a fairly insignificant amount of money (try sending any other castle park to 6 mil and see how they do) basically has no Fantasyland to speak of (its headliner is Pooh, the ride that twice a year peaks at a 10 minute wait in California).

It went from a big loser to being essentially neutral. This is why the future expansion needs prioritization still. I'll be curious to see if they use Dwayne for their unique JC (sneak attack on topic!)
 

BrianLo

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I'm on the same page as everyone else for JC.

It's not a kinetic attraction for the park, since it's tucked in behind its facade. It's certainly no E. It takes a huge amount of real estate. It's a satire of a Walt original.

I'm all for it getting an upgrade or huge overhaul or even ripped out if they had a better original attraction in mind. But do I want to role the dice on Dwayne's Jungle Cruise being the answer? There are quite a few nice overlays, many more that are worse. There is a single attraction to movie to attraction where the second iteration was arguably better than the amazing first. Pirates in Shanghai. But that's a ground up new attraction, not an overlay.

I'm awaiting the movie and their ultimate plans before I really settle... but sure, I'm at least willing to see where this leads.
 

Californian Elitist

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You do know that prior to Tarzan (as is still the case in other Magic Kingdom Parks) it was Swiss Family Robinson which had a very Oceania theme (which includes Polynesia). So Adventureland was heavily themed in the region for many decades.

My point is that given the limited space of the area I would be ok if they added a Polynesian aspect to Jungle Cruise. Now I would also be ok if they got rid of Aladdin as well. But I rather see Moana references add into an attraction rather than a food place. But that is just my preference.

Key words in your post: "prior" and "was." The majority of Adventureland is not heavily themed to Polynesia, as you stated. If we were talking about the past, sure. I see no point in bringing up Swiss Family Robinson when it's no longer in the park. The other Magic Kingdom-style parks are also irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

If Moana references have to go somewhere (I hope they ultimately don't), one can go into the Tiki Room, an attraction. It would actually make sense there. Why mess up the kinetics of Jungle Cruise, Tarzan, and Indy for a Moana reference when it can go elsewhere where it actually fits/makes sense?

It used to be...and I still hold out hope that one day it will be again!!!

Same here! But we shouldn't hold our breath, especially now that they're using Aladdin's Oasis as a sandwich spot.
 

Phroobar

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It was a missed opportunity to bring back the fire dancers and rebuild the Polynesian restaurant for Moana. They didn't do it for Stitch either.
 

Disney Irish

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Key words in your post: "prior" and "was." The majority of Adventureland is not heavily themed to Polynesia, as you stated. If we were talking about the past, sure. I see no point in bringing up Swiss Family Robinson when it's no longer in the park. The other Magic Kingdom-style parks are also irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

If Moana references have to go somewhere (I hope they ultimately don't), one can go into the Tiki Room, an attraction. It would actually make sense there. Why mess up the kinetics of Jungle Cruise, Tarzan, and Indy for a Moana reference when it can go elsewhere where it actually fits/makes sense?



Same here! But we shouldn't hold our breath, especially now that they're using Aladdin's Oasis as a sandwich spot.

So just because Adventureland today doesn't have heavy Polynesian themes, doesn't mean it can't in the future. This is the whole point I'm trying to make. Why not bring more Polynesian themes and other themes from the Oceania regions into Adventureland. In other Magic Kingdom parks where space is not an issue, sure they can build new attractions. But in DLR where space is limited, they either have to add into already existing attractions or rip out something to build something new.

So in my opinion if they are going to update JC, I rather have a Maui AA rather than a Rock AA.
 

dweezil78

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Ah I can see it now...

Skipper: "So little guy, tell me... who do you think Schweitzer Falls is named after??"
Kid On Boat: "Oh, that's easy! Dr. Schwei---"
Skipper: "IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK!"
Kid On Boat: <Cries Hysterically>
 

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