Rock (Dwayne Johnson) and WDI Partner on Jungle Cruise Updates

lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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CaptainAmerica said:
I don't view it as subservience, I view it as symbiotic. Dumbo the movie became Dumbo the ride. Pirates of the Caribbean the ride became a movie, from which characters were put in the ride. It's not that film is primary and the attractions seconday, but I like when they're integrated.
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And in turn Pirates of the Caribbean had to become subservient to the films, just as we are now talking about the Jungle Cruise becoming subservient to a film. The franchises are rooted in film, and the parks must serve the franchises. Beauty and the Beast (1991) is not being re-dubbed by Emma Watson or recut to make it more "integrated" with the recent film.
 
Bairstow

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mickEblu said:
What's worse is the whole "where's Captain Jack Sparrow" soundbite over and over and over. I can live with the AAs. Would of been a lot more subtle and tasteful without all that.
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mickEblu said:
What's worse is the whole "where's Captain Jack Sparrow" soundbite over and over and over. I can live with the AAs. Would of been a lot more subtle and tasteful without all that.
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I never really noticed it.

At this point I'm not surprised about the Jungle news and I don't care all that much because the parks have been headed down this path for decades now. More importantly guests seem to be responding positively to the strategy (just look at the response to the Red Rose Tavern). Who here is genuinely surprised that Disney is planning on revamping Jungle to align with a new movie? Not me.
 
Curious Constance

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I think there is a big difference putting an AA of a celebrity as opposed to putting an animated character in a ride. Celebrities are people. You have to read about their drunken spectacles and affairs and then float by them on an attraction. Not right.
 
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mickEblu

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Dr. Hans Reinhardt said:
I never really noticed it.

At this point I'm not surprised about the Jungle news and I don't care all that much because the parks have been headed down this path for decades now. More importantly guests seem to be responding positively to the strategy (just look at the response to the Red Rose Tavern). Who here is genuinely surprised that Disney is planning on revamping Jungle to align with a new movie? Not me.
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Surprised? No
Disappointed again? Yes
 
mickEblu

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Dr. Hans Reinhardt said:
I can't be disappointed when this has been their strategy for at least the last 20-30 years. For me what's disappointing is seeing the strong positive response from the public. Disney is only adjusting to the ever-changing tastes and preferences of the public and it's incredibly successful.
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It's kind of a two way street though right? The fans will always appreciate quality. If Disney built Mystic Manor stateside would it not be considered an instant classic out here?
 
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mickEblu said:
It's kind of a two way street though right?
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Not really. Disney builds what it expects will draw the most customers and make the most money, and it's always been this way. Any customer who considers Disneyland a colleague or partner or some sort of two way relationship is foolish. Everything they do is designed to benefit the business more than it benefits you.

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The fans will always appreciate quality. If Disney built Mystic Manor stateside would it not be considered an instant classic out here?
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To be fair not everything Disney has built stateside in recent years has been IP based.

Also note that while expertly executed in classic Disney fashion Mystc Manor and Grizzly Gulch have not been the big game changing attractions that Disney and it's Hong Kong investors hoped they would be.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.lati...-hong-kong-disneyland-20170221-story,amp.html

Whether this means HK visitors want more identifiable Disney IP experiences at HKDL I don't know, but the strategy sure seems to be working to drive growth at Disney resorts elsewhere.
 
mickEblu

mickEblu

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Dr. Hans Reinhardt said:
Not really. Disney builds what it expects will draw the most customers and make the most money, and it's always been this way. Any customer who considers Disneyland a colleague or partner or some sort of two way relationship is foolish. Everything they do is designed to benefit the business more than it benefits you.



To be fair not everything Disney has built stateside in recent years has been IP based.

Also note that while expertly executed in classic Disney fashion Mystc Manor and Grizzly Gulch have not been the big game changing attractions that Disney and it's Hong Kong investors hoped they would be.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.lati...-hong-kong-disneyland-20170221-story,amp.html

Whether this means HK visitors want more identifiable Disney IP experiences at HKDL I don't know, but the strategy sure seems to be working to drive growth at Disney resorts elsewhere.
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By two way street I meant that if Disney builds quality attractions, the fans will love it no matter Not that fans are partners with Disney. Of course the casual fans aren't clamoring for original attractions. Who knows what they do not know? Nobody asked for an iPhone. Nobody asked for Disneyland.

And yes everything they do is designed to benefit their business but they can do this without IP tie ins. It all comes down to risk. It's obviously less risky (on an excel spread sheet) to build an IP based attraction over something original.

I think that Mystic Manor and Grizzly Gulch haven't been huge game changers because that park is still playing catch up. Two quality attractions probably can't change that. I also don't think the Disney parks fans abroad care as much about original Disney attractions as much as they care about the identifiable Disney experiences. Mystic Manor and Grizzly Gulch ( or the like) should have been added to WDW where they would be appreciated and HKDL should have gotten a POTC/ HM/ etc.
 
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