DHS RnRc Retheme?

[cookiee_munster]

I wonder whether it hasn't happened already (Muppet Overhaul) because of a possible Alien Encounter issue?

For new families visiting, they may be under the impression that a muppets themed rollercoaster may be a lot tamer than what the actual ride is? and because they don't get to see the actual rollercoaster maybe they'd think it more akin to space mountain? (just a thought)

 

[Bocabear]

I wonder whether it hasn't happened already (Muppet Overhaul) because of a possible Alien Encounter issue?

For new families visiting, they may be under the impression that a muppets themed rollercoaster may be a lot tamer than what the actual ride is? and because they don't get to see the actual rollercoaster maybe they'd think it more akin to space mountain? (just a thought)

There are plenty of warning signs....including height restrictions...
If anyone is too terrified to ride a rollercoaster, they should probably not be in line for a ride called "Rock N Roller Coaster"
I think we already overthink things worrying about "what if "someone doesn't like rollercoasters...or water rides, or scary things... If they feel it is too intense it is up to them to figure it out... RE: Alien Encounter, there were TONS of warning signs, but they brought their toddlers in anyway and then complained afterwards....and we lost a cutting edge attraction because of it...

 

[cookiee_munster]

There are plenty of warning signs....including height restrictions...
If anyone is too terrified to ride a rollercoaster, they should probably not be in line for a ride called "Rock N Roller Coaster"
I think we already overthink things worrying about "what if "someone doesn't like rollercoasters...or water rides, or scary things... If they feel it is too intense it is up to them to figure it out... RE: Alien Encounter, there were TONS of warning signs, but they brought their toddlers in anyway and then complained afterwards....and we lost a cutting edge attraction because of it...

I can't remember seeing any warning signs around Rock N' Rollercoaster (I've not been in a long, long time) but have no doubts they are there in plain sight.

I do remember all the signs around Alien Encounter, so I was absolutely boggled when I'd see parents with really small kids waiting in line.

I still hold out hope for an Electric Mayhem overlay.

 

[Purduevian]

I don't think the band name (EM) has that much recognition, but people would recognize Dr. Teeth or Janice on a screen. And obviously everybody knows Animal plays the drums, though they may not know why.

The thing about Muppets is that they don't really live or die. You can make new content with them on D+ or possibly even a feature film, without it looking like an AARP commercial. Aerosmith isn't a drag on the existing ride, but they could only make it through 3 shows of their farewell tour this year. I wouldn't say that Electric Mayhem would bring in many new riders either, but at least Disney owns their rights and can update the ride content over time. Plus maybe some seasonal overlays, which do bring in more guests.

Again super subjective, but I had to google Dr. Teeth and Janice. Dr. Teeth looks familiar, but I don't think I've ever seen Janice before. I do know Animal though.

Not sure how popular the Muppets are with millennials, maybe its just my wife and I that never really saw any of it. (Sesame street not included)

 

[rle4lunch]

Ya'll know this is gonna turn into a cars overlay, right? Lol

 

[pdude81]

Ya'll know this is gonna turn into a cars overlay, right? Lol

I'd fully support a backwards driving Mater coaster.

 

[Brer Panther]

The whole "should we attach an IP that kids love to a roller coaster with a height requirement" issue makes assigning an IP to Rock 'n' Roller Coaster difficult as a whole. Disney doesn't have much in the way of popular IPs that aren't for all ages.

Unless they want to turn it into a Family Guy coaster (which I think would be a horrible idea).

 

[ToTBellHop]

They definitely maintain this coaster better than they do in Paris. The Avengers coaster was a terrible head-banger. Please give both rides the Hyperspace Mountain restraints, though! Loved those. I honestly wouldn’t ride Flight Force again even if the visuals weren’t a joke.

 

[Kirby86]

Again super subjective, but I had to google Dr. Teeth and Janice. Dr. Teeth looks familiar, but I don't think I've ever seen Janice before. I do know Animal though.

Not sure how popular the Muppets are with millennials, maybe its just my wife and I that never really saw any of it. (Sesame street not included)

The Muppets are still popular enough that Disney will send them out to events and advertisements. As for if they're popular with Millennials? With Muppet Christmas Carol being a staple of the season I'd say that Muppets have some sort connection to that generation. However Gen-X has the most connection with the franchise that's when the Muppets took over the world

 

[Bocabear]

Well...if they moved the entire Muppets area to the Animation courtyard they could create a more compelling Muppets area...Add a couple additional rides to flesh it out, and a re-visit the Swedish Chef restaurant concept that was discarded years ago, and it could reinvigorate the IP...

 

[Purduevian]

The Muppets are still popular enough that Disney will send them out to events and advertisements. As for if they're popular with Millennials? With Muppet Christmas Carol being a staple of the season I'd say that Muppets have some sort connection to that generation. However Gen-X has the most connection with the franchise that's when the Muppets took over the world

Never seen Muppets Christmas Carol (didn't actually know it existed haha). Yeah looks like my wife and my families were just out of the loop on Muppets, must be more popular than I thought.

 

[KeithVH]

I'll stir the pot - are we saying the consensus is that a Muppet Land is now needed? Some seems to be saying this. Sounds like an odd leap just to fix RnRC

 

[James Alucobond]

I'll stir the pot - are we saying the consensus is that a Muppet Land is now needed? Some seems to be saying this. Sounds like an odd leap just to fix RnRC

I think it’s more that it’s a fairly attractive proposition due to the really confused IP organization in DHS at the moment. Star Wars is in three separate locations with Galaxy’s Edge, Star Tours, and Launch Bay. Moving the Muppets out of their current location would allow you to create an unbroken “Lucasfilm Studios” area that could more gracefully transition into Galaxy’s Edge with some “hot set” signage or something. All Launch Bay content could easily be moved here, fully freeing up the Animation Courtyard for redevelopment, and you could use the MuppetVision space for another classic-era Star Wars attraction.

Then, a new Muppets Courtyard could be established including RRC, which would also make it fairly thematically evergreen relative to the current Aerosmith overlay.

 

[rle4lunch]

Nix that ridiculous Muppets land crap lol.

 

[mergatroid]

They definitely maintain this coaster better than they do in Paris. The Avengers coaster was a terrible head-banger. Please give both rides the Hyperspace Mountain restraints, though! Loved those. I honestly wouldn’t ride Flight Force again even if the visuals weren’t a joke.

Was in Paris 2 weeks ago visiting the park for the first time and was really looking forward to Flight Force. It just felt a bit meh though, the same track but not the feel of the RnR coaster at all. I come off the RnR grinning every time, Flight Force just didn't feel anywhere near as good sadly.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ֊ᗩζᗩᗰ]

Could they theoretically "black box" it and make it a blank slate coaster primed for whatever IP they can throw at it every 4 months? I mean, the actual theming on the coaster is sparse. Would a flavor of the month overlay keep things interesting?

 

[Bocabear]

the popularity of the ride has no need for "flavor Of The Month to keep it interesting"...it just needs a new theme, some fresh visuals and it is ready to go. Maybe something that feels a little more "Hollywood" or Disney....

 

[Robbiem]

Could they theoretically "black box" it and make it a blank slate coaster primed for whatever IP they can throw at it every 4 months? I mean, the actual theming on the coaster is sparse. Would a flavor of the month overlay keep things interesting?

I like this idea. Realistically anything they replace the current ride with would have screens so go full on and use something like the sphere tech from las vegas to make a ride you can swap out for seasonal overlays or to promote the latest movie. I could easily imagine a haunted mansion holiday style nightmare before Christmas overlay, hyperspace mountain, Indiana Jones, avatar banshee flight, doctor strange multiverse, aliens etc. you could even keep an aerosmith overlay to play into the nostalgia

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ֊ᗩζᗩᗰ]

I like this idea. Realistically anything they replace the current ride with would have screens so go full on and use something like the sphere tech from las vegas to make a ride you can swap out for seasonal overlays or to promote the latest movie. I could easily imagine a haunted mansion holiday style nightmare before Christmas overlay, hyperspace mountain, Indiana Jones, avatar banshee flight, doctor strange multiverse, aliens etc. you could even keep an aerosmith overlay to play into the nostalgia

It's not ideal but it would allow them to change it to whatever IP is hot or to a property they'd want to promote. It's a coaster, so people are gonna flock to it anyway. - some exec. It's very corporate and to that notion, more realistic than "Roger Rabbit" or another IP that would work perfectly. Cynical, I know. But it would keep it fresh.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ֊ᗩζᗩᗰ]

the popularity of the ride has no need for "flavor Of The Month to keep it interesting"...it just needs a new theme, some fresh visuals and it is ready to go. Maybe something that feels a little more "Hollywood" or Disney....

Since Roger Rabbit is a no go... and we still want to get that "Hollywood" aspect in there before "Hollywood Studios" drops the theme entirely. How about this:

A launched roller coaster attraction themed to Disney's "Epic Mickey" with a preshow of animator asleep at their desk when Mickey Mouse suddenly leaps out from his animation cel to begin a bit of ink and paint mischief. The onboard coaster music is Electro Swing with the exterior of the attraction resembling Disney's Animation Studios. The ride takes guests on a journey through a toony dystopian version of the Golden Age of Hollywood where forgotten Disney creations of the past including Oswald the Lucky Rabbit, are being tormented by the evil Shadow Blot, the monstrous being Mickey accidentally created using the animator's brush during the preshow. The coaster would features a nightmare-fueled dreamscape tied to the video game franchise and the 1933 classic cartoon "The Mad Doctor." Guests will experience the twisted terrain of "The Wasteland" and meet some of Mickey and Oswald's foes before Mickey (with the help of Oswald) ultimately triumph over evil.