Rich Ross Resigns

It's excuses and a discredit... Avengers broke the opening weekend record... And it is very possible this can go on to beat Avatar... And there is nothing anyone can say that will or can take anything away from the amount of business this movie has done so far and will do in the weeks to come...

It's not going to beat Avatar. It's not going to perform like Avatar with people going to see it over and over again which gave it some kind weird theatrical longevity that was probably not repeated since Star Wars. It could end up in the top 5 though, but I seriously doubt it will perform like that.
 

El Grupo

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The next few weeks could potentially be very profitable for The Avengers. It will be facing the following major releases:
-May 11: Dark Shadows
-May 18: Battleship
-May 25: MIB3
-June 1: Snow White and the Huntsman
-June 8: Prometheus and Madagascar 3

Though it was released two weeks prior to Avengers in several major foreign markets, Battleship has generated 45% of the superhero flick's box office sales. MIB3 should do well over the Memorial Day weekend. But supposedly there are concerns about its potential considering the somewhat disappointing returns for MIB2.

This could allow Avengers to dominate until early June and for the movie to slide into the worldwide top-three by mid-Summer. After this past weekend, it is almost halfway there now.
 

flavious27

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The next few weeks could potentially be very profitable for The Avengers. It will be facing the following major releases:
-May 11: Dark Shadows
-May 18: Battleship
-May 25: MIB3
-June 1: Snow White and the Huntsman
-June 8: Prometheus and Madagascar 3

Though it was released two weeks prior to Avengers in several major foreign markets, Battleship has generated 45% of the superhero flick's box office sales. MIB3 should do well over the Memorial Day weekend. But supposedly there are concerns about its potential considering the somewhat disappointing returns for MIB2.

This could allow Avengers to dominate until early June and for the movie to slide into the worldwide top-three by mid-Summer. After this past weekend, it is almost halfway there now.

I hope dark shadows flops, they need to stop with these depp / burton adaption movies.
 

WDWmazprty

Well-Known Member
The Avengers is the movie to beat this year.
Yeah, The Dark Knight Rises will no doubt be a great movie but I doubt it will bet The Avengers.
 

flavious27

Well-Known Member
So is Avengers part of the legacy that Rich Ross left? Why isn't anyone talking about this on the Rich Ross thread?

Avengers was already financed, in development, and was not having problems. Along with that, it was needed to be made to justify the marvel purchase.
 

Cosmic Commando

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I can't say for certain if The Dark Knight's IMAX release was in 3D, but if I remember, it was not. The Hunger Games limited IMAX release was not in 3D, and had no standard 3D screens at all.

Nolan does not like 3D. Dark Knight Rises won't be in 3D, either. IMHO, I don't think Dark Knight Rises will beat Avengers this summer. The second movie was just a perfect storm of sequel, buzz from Heath Ledger's unfortunate death, and the fact that it was a Batman/Joker movie. It did open to $158M without any 3D, though... impressive. I honestly think Dark Knight Rises is in a race with Dark Knight to see whether you can recapture that buzz.

I'm really interested to see what happens next year with Iron Man 3. Does Avengers push Iron Man 3 to be a billion dollar mega movie, will Iron Man 3 be on par with the first two, or will it even sink after people just saw Iron Man in an even bigger spectacle? With the amount of money Avengers is pulling in, it's clear that it's not just the same audience seeing every Marvel movie, but now what can they do with that audience? If Iron Man 3 gets a big boost from Avengers, how much do you wanna bet the other studios will be in line to deal with Disney and get Spider-Man or the Fantastic Four a cameo in the next Avengers? Spider-Man may be a real possibility; Sony and Disney have been dealing amicably with the movie rights. Very exciting times.
 

Cosmic Commando

Well-Known Member
Since this is the Rich Ross thread, I'm now starting to think that they knew they wanted to get away from Rich Ross, but the timing was just too good to pass up. Just after John Carter, so many will assume it was because of that. A week later, everyone's forgotten about John Carter and Rich Ross because of how media works now. Avengers breaks all kinds of records, but there's no studio chief! Who do you interview from Disney? I've seen Iger quoted a lot... the guy that needs to defend his $4B purchase of Marvel. Brilliant.
 

captainkidd

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And it is very possible this can go on to beat Avatar....

Yea, uh, I don't think so. As much as I preferred Avengers to Avatar, that's not happening.

What Avatar and Titanic both did, is just crazy. Especially Titanic given that it only opened to $26 million. Avengers will have repeat business from Marvel fans, but Titanic and Avatar had repeat business from everyone that saw it, and everyone DID see them.

Not trying to compare The Avengers to Breaking Dawn, but that movie opened with $138 million, and finished with about $280 million. Most tent pole blockbusters like this do about half their business opening weekend. The Avengers was a fantastic movie, unlike the last Twilight, so it should play better, but not in the realm of doing 4 times what it did it's opening weekend.
 

jt04

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Avengers was already financed, in development, and was not having problems. Along with that, it was needed to be made to justify the marvel purchase.

This seems like a bit of spin here. It wasn't made to justify the purchase IMO. It was made because it is naturally the type of movie fans would want to see. You make it sound like they desperately needed this to recoup the purchase price but I think it is more accurate to say that they made the purchase of Marvel to reboot franchises like The Avengers. And it is just the beginning.......

Since this is the Rich Ross thread, I'm now starting to think that they knew they wanted to get away from Rich Ross, but the timing was just too good to pass up. Just after John Carter, so many will assume it was because of that. A week later, everyone's forgotten about John Carter and Rich Ross because of how media works now. Avengers breaks all kinds of records, but there's no studio chief! Who do you interview from Disney? I've seen Iger quoted a lot... the guy that needs to defend his $4B purchase of Marvel. Brilliant.

I am pretty sure this is not a product of a Disney Studio but perhaps I have been asleep for a few years. Disney is distributing the movie and licensing the merchandise etc.

So you are correct that this puts the John Carter mess in the distant past but it really has nothing to do with the Disney studio or RR leaving. Even if he was still there he would not be the person the press would be seeking to interview as I see it.

~partly cloudy with a 100% chance of major profits~
 

jensenrick

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Nolan does not like 3D. Dark Knight Rises won't be in 3D, either. IMHO, I don't think Dark Knight Rises will beat Avengers this summer. The second movie was just a perfect storm of sequel, buzz from Heath Ledger's unfortunate death, and the fact that it was a Batman/Joker movie. It did open to $158M without any 3D, though... impressive. I honestly think Dark Knight Rises is in a race with Dark Knight to see whether you can recapture that buzz.

I'm really interested to see what happens next year with Iron Man 3. Does Avengers push Iron Man 3 to be a billion dollar mega movie, will Iron Man 3 be on par with the first two, or will it even sink after people just saw Iron Man in an even bigger spectacle? With the amount of money Avengers is pulling in, it's clear that it's not just the same audience seeing every Marvel movie, but now what can they do with that audience? If Iron Man 3 gets a big boost from Avengers, how much do you wanna bet the other studios will be in line to deal with Disney and get Spider-Man or the Fantastic Four a cameo in the next Avengers? Spider-Man may be a real possibility; Sony and Disney have been dealing amicably with the movie rights. Very exciting times.

I completely agree, and despite the record-breaking weekend, I think people are still underestimating The Avengers.
I didn't JUST break the all-time weekend record, according to Box Office Mojo, it obliterated it. (200.3 v 169.2)
But that's not the only record broken-

-Fastest movie ever to reach 200 mil
-record Saturday gross
-record Sunday gross
-highest per-theater average
In it's first THREE days, it's already grossed more than Cap, or Thor, or Hulk did on their own for their entire releases.

And sure, you could say that's all due to Imax and 3D, but what might be even more important is where they came in #2-movie weekend market share.

82.7% of the weekend gross was spent at Avengers (2nd highest ever) which means 8 out of every 10 persons at the movies went to see it- and in nearly every review I see, the moviegoer always mentions wanting to see it again. That is huge. I agree with a poster above, could potentially be Avatar huge.
 

Cornballman

Member
I sure enjoyed it, and I hope that Captain Kidd feels dumb for saying how it wasn't going to be so big. It was one of the most entertaining movies I have ever seen IMO
 

G00fyDad

Well-Known Member
I sure enjoyed it, and I hope that Captain Kidd feels dumb for saying how it wasn't going to be so big. It was one of the most entertaining movies I have ever seen IMO

To be fair, this is what he said:
There are 2 problems with The Avengers:

1.It will be very front-loaded, meaning everyone that wants to see it will see it first and second weekend. It won't have long legs at the box office like The Hunger Games has.

2.The production budget alone is said to be around $250 million. Lord only knows what marketing costs are.

No doubt, it will be a big hit at the box office, but that doesn't mean big revenue for Disney.

Try to acurately read the posts before posting inflammatory comments. :wave:
 

Cornballman

Member
To be fair, this is what he said:


Try to acurately read the posts before posting inflammatory comments. :wave:

You obviously missed the 17 comments after that about how it wasn't going to be as big a hit as iron man and that all the same people who went to see Thor and CA and Hulk would go see that. Try reading the entire thread before saying I'm being inflammatory. He took every opportunity to knock the movie and say it wasn't going to be very big. It made $200.3m. I just was saying that I hope he realizes he was incredibly wrong.
 

G00fyDad

Well-Known Member
You obviously missed the 17 comments after that about how it wasn't going to be as big a hit as iron man and that all the same people who went to see Thor and CA and Hulk would go see that. Try reading the entire thread before saying I'm being inflammatory. He took every opportunity to knock the movie and say it wasn't going to be very big. It made $200.3m. I just was saying that I hope he realizes he was incredibly wrong.

No. You said you hope he feels dumb. Here, I'll quote you for it....

I sure enjoyed it, and I hope that Captain Kidd feels dumb for saying how it wasn't going to be so big. It was one of the most entertaining movies I have ever seen IMO

That is being inflammatory. It would be the same if I asked you if you feel stupid for missing that. I'm done arguing with you. Thanks.
 

captainkidd

Well-Known Member
I sure enjoyed it, and I hope that Captain Kidd feels dumb for saying how it wasn't going to be so big. It was one of the most entertaining movies I have ever seen IMO

I never said it wasn't going to be big. I just said I felt the same audience that went to see the other movies was going to see this. I didn't expect it to make $200 million this weekend, but no one else did either.
 

captainkidd

Well-Known Member
You obviously missed the 17 comments after that about how it wasn't going to be as big a hit as iron man and that all the same people who went to see Thor and CA and Hulk would go see that. Try reading the entire thread before saying I'm being inflammatory. He took every opportunity to knock the movie and say it wasn't going to be very big. It made $200.3m. I just was saying that I hope he realizes he was incredibly wrong.

That's bull. I didn't knock the movie at all. In fact, I only praised it, both before and after it came out. Again, it made more money than I thought it would, but like I said already, it made more than everyone thought it would. Are you calling everyone "dumb"?

FTR, I never once said that the movie would make under $300 million. My prediction was for about $360 million, but obviously, that was pretty low.
 

Cornballman

Member
That's bull. I didn't knock the movie at all. In fact, I only praised it, both before and after it came out. Again, it made more money than I thought it would, but like I said already, it made more than everyone thought it would. Are you calling everyone "dumb"?

FTR, I never once said that the movie would make under $300 million. My prediction was for about $360 million, but obviously, that was pretty low.

Sorry to incite a riot....I apologize for the misunderstanding. I am glad you like it thought cause it was a great movie.
 

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