Reservation expansion

[correcaminos]

You have been very clear about how you use the DAS system. That basically makes any other arguments you make irrelevant.

Am I missing something here? Someone who uses DAS is not allowed an opinion?

 

[Ayla]

Good luck with return customers going basically full standby what kid or even adult really wants to wait hours to ride anything especially something they have seen countless times. Let alone new visitors reading horror stories online of either paying an obscene amount of money or choosing to stand in the heat for hours to go on something thats gonna last minutes…. Hence why again i dont understand why bringing back a paid version of FP at say double the price maybe triple and include inventory by adding in every attraction. Everyone shoots down the idea that maybe choosing your time slot means nothing but maybe it helped ease the system. We will
Never know bc no changes are coming until 2023. Because well its Disney

My 8 year old nephew, as well as the 4 adults with him had no problems standing in line in May, because I refused to purchase Genie+. If a child can do it, so can any adult.

 

[Touchdown]

Am I missing something here? Someone who uses DAS is not allowed an opinion?

It does kind of invalidate your views on G+, you are on another tier and getting G++. You can book any ride at anytime provided you don’t have another ride currently booked on your DAS.

Note: this is not a judgement, not saying what you are doing isn’t deserved or justified, just making the point that you really can’t review G+ objectively.

 

[Chi84]

My 8 year old nephew, as well as the 4 adults with him had no problems standing in line in May, because I refused to purchase Genie+. If a child can do it, so can any adult.

You can speak to your own experience, but not the experience of "any adult."

 

[crazy4disney]

It does kind of invalidate your views on G+, you are on another tier and getting G++. You can book any ride at anytime provided you don’t have another ride currently booked on your DAS.

Note: this is not a judgement, not saying what you are doing isn’t deserved or justified, just making the point that you really can’t review G+ objectively.

How can you say that? If anything anyone w DAS (myself) who thinks Genie is awful wouldnt it be even more awful using your logic.... I didnt realize me having DAS mad my thoughts irrelevant but ive been told that countless times on these boards regarding both FP & now Genie.... not sure how any of that is logical when FP were booked before entering parks and DAS had ZERO impact on that... DAS helped in November as i was able to book 2 rides before entering park but at 7am i was part of the mad dash Genie is.... Das helped more this past trip but not as much as you would think bc lines were longer than past years which limited how many you could book & as ive stated FP worked great for me and my family as i was able to always add plenty of attractions during the day & yes DAS was used but honestly more so for re rides as ive said... an occasional gap filler as well buut when you are there for 9-10 days its gonna happen.... but agian my opinion means nothing bc i have DAS access... so ignore the man behind the curtain

 

[DisneyHead123]

My 8 year old nephew, as well as the 4 adults with him had no problems standing in line in May, because I refused to purchase Genie+. If a child can do it, so can any adult.

I think there is a big difference between what a person can do, and what a person wants to pay copious amounts of money to do, though. If we were talking about a neighborhood recycling program, sure, I would tell people "Hey, if a kid can handle separating paper and plastic, so can you!" Disney is not boot camp or a public service though. Disney is a place that you voluntarily choose to pay a sh** ton of money to visit, entirely for entertainment purposes.

 

[crazy4disney]

You have been very clear about how you use the DAS system. That basically makes any other arguments you make irrelevant.

Possibly one of the most ignorant things ive heard but hey. You do you.

 

[Touchdown]

How can you say that? If anything anyone w DAS (myself) who thinks Genie is awful wouldnt it be even more awful using your logic.... I didnt realize me having DAS mad my thoughts irrelevant but ive been told that countless times on these boards regarding both FP & now Genie.... not sure how any of that is logical when FP were booked before entering parks and DAS had ZERO impact on that... DAS helped in November as i was able to book 2 rides before entering park but at 7am i was part of the mad dash Genie is.... Das helped more this past trip but not as much as you would think bc lines were longer than past years which limited how many you could book & as ive stated FP worked great for me and my family as i was able to always add plenty of attractions during the day & yes DAS was used but honestly more so for re rides as ive said... an occasional gap filler as well buut when you are there for 9-10 days its gonna happen.... but agian my opinion means nothing bc i have DAS access... so ignore the man behind the curtain

You can’t have a favorable opinion of it, as you are in a higher class. Much like I refuse to comment on the non resort rope drop being worthwhile, I’ve never not gone for early entry since it started.

 

[crazy4disney]

My 8 year old nephew, as well as the 4 adults with him had no problems standing in line in May, because I refused to purchase Genie+. If a child can do it, so can any adult.

Thats awesome. Good for you and them. As ive stated everyone vacations differently but im pretty sure the majority of 8 y/o ideal vacations doesnt consist of standing in hour long lines if not longer in the heat thats for sure… especially if its something they have done before and grown use to skipping lines to most attractions etc.

 

[crazy4disney]

You can’t have a favorable opinion of it, as you are in a higher class. Much like I refuse to comment on the non resort rope drop being worthwhile, I’ve never not gone for early entry since it started.

I cant comment on it bc im in w higher class?!? Wow. Thats an interesting take. My 3 FP were literally in the same class as EVERY other resort guests. So not sure how im in a higher class there. In regards to Genie. It sucked even w DAS imagine how more it would have sucked w/o DAS. Again. How does my opinion not matter and put me in a”higher” class. If my rides and attraction using DAS was 15-20% of rides during FP that was probably alot and i dont think ive had to use it to ride soMething that wasnt ridden already during my trip/day. Did it help of course but as ive stated did it make my trip go fro miserable to great or my trip over the top amazing. I dont think so not the way it was used by me and the success i had w FP. Genie as i said in November was by far the worst trip sincemy daughter was born and DAS as i said prior with the longer lines made it not that useful.

 

[Jrb1979]

Thats awesome. Good for you and them. As ive stated everyone vacations differently but im pretty sure the majority of 8 y/o ideal vacations doesnt consist of standing in hour long lines if not longer in the heat thats for sure… especially if its something they have done before and grown use to skipping lines to most attractions etc.

Your last sentence happens at all parks. Most guests have ridden the attractions before. I'm sure like all parks not every ride is going to have hour long waits.

 

[Touchdown]

I cant comment on it bc im in w higher class?!? Wow. Thats an interesting take. My 3 FP were literally in the same class as EVERY other resort guests. So not sure how im in a higher class there. In regards to Genie. It sucked even w DAS imagine how more it would have sucked w/o DAS. Again. How does my opinion not matter and put me in a”higher” class. If my rides and attraction using DAS was 15-20% of rides during FP that was probably alot and i dont think ive had to use it to ride soMething that wasnt ridden already during my trip/day. Did it help of course but as ive stated did it make my trip go fro miserable to great or my trip over the top amazing. I dont think so not the way it was used by me and the success i had w FP. Genie as i said in November was by far the worst trip sincemy daughter was born and DAS as i said prior with the longer lines made it not that useful.

I think you are just trying to pick a fight now. If you get additional benefits over other people, I don’t think you can objectively rate a service given for all in a favorable light. You are getting extra benefits that will color your review, period. That’s not some moral deficiency on your part, it just is human nature.

 

[crazy4disney]

Your last sentence happens at all parks. Most guests have ridden the attractions before. I'm sure like all parks not every ride is going to have hour long waits.

Disney is not like all parks. Just my honest opinion that if they decide basically on an all standby except for a capped high priced skip the line system lines are far from disappearing

 

[crazy4disney]

I think you are just trying to pick a fight now. If you get additional benefits over other people, I don’t think you can objectively rate a service given for all in a favorable light. You are getting extra benefits that will color your review, period. That’s not some moral deficiency on your part, it just is human nature.

When it comes to Genie and i say Genie still
Stinks how can my opinion not matter? If anything it should matter more bc i at least have DAS 2 pre booked plus another 1 whenever i want. Correct?

When it comes to FP yes i can see your point and have stated that but i also have stated how infrequent we really had to use DAS and how it was used that my love if FP should not be discounted. Especially my comments and feelings regarding the prebooking of 3 rides prior to getting there. Which DAS did not help me at all obviously. As im sure you know how it worked prior to the change. So again. How are those comments irrelevant and how am i trying to pick a fight again? Oh thats right. I have a different opinion and view so that means we cant have adult conversations anymore….

 

[Jrb1979]

Disney is not like all parks. Just my honest opinion that if they decide basically on an all standby except for a capped high priced skip the line system lines are far from disappearing

It's not about making lines shorter or making them disappear. It's about making it so Standby isn't as affected and those who spend the money get a short wait.

 

[crazy4disney]

It's not about making lines shorter or making them disappear. It's about making it so Standby isn't as affected and those who spend the money get a short wait.

& as ive said and other have agreed and disagreed i think there is no shot of waits becoming "shorter by a significant amount" as they just dont have the capacity... to be clear this is regarding stand by waits....

 

[Jrb1979]

& as ive said and other have agreed and disagreed i think there is no shot of waits becoming "shorter by a significant amount" as they just dont have the capacity... to be clear this is regarding stand by waits....

It's not about making the standby shorter. If less people are using the LL queue it makes it so Standby moves quicker then the crawl it does now.

 

[crazy4disney]

It's not about making the standby shorter. If less people are using the LL queue it makes it so Standby moves quicker then the crawl it does now.

So again with the logic moving quicker for say 60 minutes is the same as waiting 60 minutes stop and go…. That to me is still absolute perplexing if that is what you are trying to say as many others have. Again. Hate to break down Math for you and everyone. 60 minutes is still 60 minutes. Just like 20 pounds of rocks weighs the same as 20 pounds of feathers….

 

[UNCgolf]

So again with the logic moving quicker for say 60 minutes is the same as waiting 60 minutes stop and go…. That to me is still absolute perplexing if that is what you are trying to say as many others have. Again. Hate to break down Math for you and everyone. 60 minutes is still 60 minutes. Just like 20 pounds of rocks weighs the same as 20 pounds of feathers….

I'm not wading into the argument regarding whether it's better or not, but that comparison is faulty.

The way people perceive the passage of time is relative. 60 minutes is 60 minutes, but how we perceive that time varies wildly. Sometimes 60 minutes feels like it went by in 10, and sometimes it feels like it lasts all day.

 

[crazy4disney]

I'm not wading into this argument regarding whether it's better or not, but that comparison is faulty.

The way people perceive the passage of time is relative. 60 minutes is 60 minutes, but how we perceive that time varies wildly.

im not denying perception unfortunately we dont live in perception we live in reality and that reality is 60 minutes is 60 minutes & if people start telling Disney they "perceive" things are better bc we are constantly moving vs stop & go God help us!