Reservation expansion

[crazy4disney]

The myth is thinking that they have such a delicate relationship with the “on-site resort guests”…

They don’t…they control that dynamic as much or more than anything.

And…since it’s my wheelhouse and I can write a book as is…I can tell you their policy coming out of the shutdown paints a even darker picture.

Most of the rooms were mothballed - low occ - for a long time…almost a year or more…and they posted revenues and profits…

That’s bad for us…not for them.

Sorry not understanding apologies in advance. Are you saying they dont care if resorts are filled or not?

 

[payload]

They tried but according to knowledgeable sources, they were either too incompetent to make use of that information, somehow lost it, or as it turns out, were unable to effectively collect it in the first place. (I think it was the third)

That level of apparent stupid happened before this but remember, this is the company that laid off talented, skilled and experienced software engineers so they could exploit the H-1B visa program to bring in inexperienced foreign tech workers on the cheap and then had the gall to require that the people being let go train their incompetent replacements as a requirement for getting their severance.

This isn't a company that values their IT departments.

Correct...I work remote within FAANG and the offers that Disney recruiters shoot over are laughably low. Nowhere near the ballpark of what any talent in modern IT would even entertain.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Sorry not understanding apologies in advance. Are you saying they dont care if resorts are filled or not?

I’m saying they have “evidence” that they can care much less than they had 28 months ago…and employ aggressive tactics accordingly.

A “hard restart” is chapeks dream…and he got it…you can measure the impacts of Every lodging move in real time…because you had financial cover to do it.

It never would have Happened otherwise.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Correct...I work remote within FAANG and the offers that Disney recruiters shoot over are laughably low. Nowhere near the ballpark of what any talent in modern IT would even entertain.

Disney has always underpaid…at least since the mid 90’s. Never paid enough for professionals…and stopped paying enough for unskilled to maintain their quality there too.

 

[HauntedPirate]

Oh well then it's okay because we were going to Halloween parties long before Chapek became in charge!

Our kids loved the party back in the day because there were times they could go round and round and get tons of a favorite candy. We sometimes loathed the parties for that same reason.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Spoke to reservations yesterday about possible upcoming trip and they told me for an August vacation park hops would require reservations as well as the initial park. After 2 pm he said you can hop to another park that has available reservations, he said people who stay onsite would have priority and would be most likely to be able to visit other parks except on very busy days. He said refunds would not be given to people who purchased hoppers and couldn't use them when i asked. The WDW webpage has not updated this yet.

I don’t believe this is accurate. They plan to move away from park hopping restrictions, not exaggerate them, last I’d heard.

Ummm... So... thread topic.

Anyone know of any changes to the reservation system come August, which is just three weeks away?

 

[DisneyHead123]

I wish they would but I don’t see them abandoning this new system so quickly. Honestly, after using the park reservation/Genie+/ILL/2 pm park hopper system, I wondered if it wasn’t a ploy to bring back FP+ in paid form:

Guest: FP+ is a crappy, inflexible system.
Disney: Really? We’ll show you a crappy, inflexible system!
Guest (opening wallet): How much for FP+? Take it all!

Genie+ upon viewing FP+: “Hold my beer.”

 

[Disney Glimpses]

Ummm... So... thread topic.

Anyone know of any changes to the reservation system come August, which is just three weeks away?

See: https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/reservation-expansion.977913/page-31#post-10311361

As for "August," that's just an educated guess.

 

[DisneyHead123]

The numbers didn’t work on fastpass+ it was an efficiency drag…which is why they killed it.

You can’t have people prebooking 2 months in advance. It was as good idea that Didn’t work out. It happens

Honestly I have no idea why they did away with FP+. It seems equally likely that it got dropped because they didn’t want to directly monetize a previously existing system, so instead they decided to charge for something new with the idea that the upcharge would feel justified due to an “improved” system. But like I said, just guesses on my part. That they will go back to the security of a more familiar system with ok customer satisfaction ratings is also just a guess on my part, of course - I’m just thinking that no one is going to want to head up a new system that might be as big or a bigger disaster, so from a project manager POV, “tried and true” systems are going to look very appealing.

 

[bcoachable]

N/m

 

[ToTBellHop]

See: https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/reservation-expansion.977913/page-31#post-10311361

As for "August," that's just an educated guess.

I had missed that you had posted that.

Basically, they want to give APs and CMs another opportunity to enter the parks since they are blocked out too often. This was never meant to restrict hopping but I can see how those wires got crossed.

 

[TrippedUp]

I had missed that you had posted that.

Basically, they want to give APs and CMs another opportunity to enter the parks since they are blocked out too often. This was never meant to restrict hopping but I can see how those wires got crossed.

So, can I allow myself to hope that "fixing" the blackout issue means APs will be on sale soon? Because I *really* want to believe they're back before my labor day trip that either kicks off the year of WDW, or the year of "Dunno, something else?"...

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Ummm... So... thread topic.

Anyone know of any changes to the reservation system come August, which is just three weeks away?

As of right now…nuttin’

Here’s what i’m sure of: tiered prebooking of rides isn’t returning.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

So, can I allow myself to hope that "fixing" the blackout issue means APs will be on sale soon? Because I *really* want to believe they're back before my labor day trip that either kicks off the year of WDW, or the year of "Dunno, something else?"...

My guess is they return for sale with the new booking restrictions…and prices…on 8/8

 

[Disney Glimpses]

My guess is they return for sale with the new booking restrictions…and prices…on 8/8

I hope so. It keeps getting pushed. That being said, the recent blunder where APs went back on sale temporarily was actually a preparation step to resume sales that was accidentally left on during a deploy. So hopefully you’re right.

 

[Jrb1979]

My guess is they return for sale with the new booking restrictions…and prices…on 8/8

I hope so. I also hope they learned that they need to also cap AP sales. It's what got them into the mess to begin with. If there were less AP holders they wouldn't have the reservation issue they had. Unfortunately they need to start pricing people out of APs and Genie+.

 

[Disney Glimpses]

I hope so. I also hope they learned that they need to also cap AP sales. It's what got them into the mess to begin with. If there were less AP holders they wouldn't have the reservation issue they had. Unfortunately they need to start pricing people out of APs and Genie+.

Unfortunately, I think they need to end monthly payments. Secondly, they need to add a DVC specific tier. The fact that DVC members couldn't purchase APs during this time is ridiculous. Those guests are coming with or without APs being on sale; they are just needlessly forced to spend more during this temporary time period.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I hope so. I also hope they learned that they need to also cap AP sales. It's what got them into the mess to begin with. If there were less AP holders they wouldn't have the reservation issue they had. Unfortunately they need to start pricing people out of APs and Genie+.

In Orlando?

No…not at all…it’s not annual passes that caused problems…it was building near net zero new ride capacity for 20 years.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I hope so. It keeps getting pushed. That being said, the recent blunder where APs went back on sale temporarily was actually a preparation step to resume sales that was accidentally left on during a deploy. So hopefully you’re right.

Of course it was…that was obvious.

They make these dumb IT mistakes all the time and it typically telegraphs their moves. That wasn’t a “random glitch”

 

[HauntedPirate]

Unfortunately, I think they need to end monthly payments. Secondly, they need to add a DVC specific tier. The fact that DVC members couldn't purchase APs during this time is ridiculous. Those guests are coming with or without APs being on sale; they are just needlessly forced to spend more during this temporary time period.

Hell, a lot of people would be happy if they just reinstated the DVC discount on the top two APs. Just a perk that was removed with nary a word, nothing to see here...