Replacement for Tomorrowland Speedway?

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Buried20KLeague

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Because world travel is not the easiest thing to do, first of all. It's very expensive, there are political issues, plus it's a lot more convenient to drive several hours on a tank of gas than to deal with flights, passports, luggage pickup, language barriers, etc. Furthermore, when traveling to a foreign land, most people would rather visit the country's historical landmarks and sites than to visit a Disney theme park. (i.e. Paris). There are millions of things to do in foreign lands that are way higher up on the totem pole than visiting a Disney park. If you travel all of the time, this may not seem to be a big deal, but for the novice traveler, this will be likely the only time they visit that area. Are they really going to spend their time at a Disney theme park instead of Versailles, the Louvre, or the Eiffel Tower, for example? Disney is at the bottom of the totem pole where the rhino is waiting, so to speak.

The myth of world travel as frought with difficulty is wrong. Even flight cost can be less imposing than you think. I flew to shanghai for $200 more than it would have cost me to fly to LA to Disneyland. It's about having the guts to make the jump.

Fear of global travel is a very American thing. Drives me nuts.

And there's no reason you can't visit these other countries and also sightsee within the country. I'm not sure why you WOULDN'T. I've done that in every foreign country that houses a Disney Resort.
 

Buried20KLeague

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The only thing I can say is.. it doesn't feel that way to me.lol.



Or, it means it could need work, not thrown away. That's my only point. Not trying to debate. Roller coasters get tweaks all of the time.. that's how they can continue to run for so many years.. several of them much longer than Space Mountain.

Metal under constant stress and vibration will not last indefinitely.
 

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Metal under constant stress and vibration will not last indefinitely.

The track is in horrible condition and they are throttling the ride way down to prolong its life..... if this allows them to refurb and replace the track with a smooth new coaster then heck yea!! Good thing

Perhaps not the best thread for this but I got to thinking about the "space" inside SM and how that could be repurposed. Would it at all be possible for them to borrow track from the mirrored coaster (side B) patch side A to give it new life and make Side B a completely different attraction within the SM building? Would that be beyond stupid or genius? Don't mean to thread hijack but the idea just popped in my head.
 

*Q*

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That quote as great as it is really is not truth.... DL = MK they were the same.....

Nothing wrong with Clones got to remember most people only visit one park not on both coast or world wide...
A) The Magic Kingdom is not a clone of Disneyland.
B) Walt had absolutely no interest in building another Disneyland-style park. They were only planning another one as a weenie to draw people to EPCOT.
 

Daveeeeed

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I'd be more than happy with them simply reusing similar ride elements but having different themes. I'm fine with Dinosaur/Indiana Jones instead of 2 identical indiana jones rides. Or ToT/Guardians/Disneysea's "non Twilight Zone" ToT. The same thing we're seeing with Aliens/Maters.
It'd be great if we could get Poohs or Mystic Manor's ride systems over here but with a completely different theme. That would still allow for "exclusive" rides at other parks with the safety and comfort for TWDC of using proven ride systems, while allowing for "exclusivity" through different theming.

It comes down to this- if GoTG is a drop coaster on the west coast, do we need a clone here? I'd much rather get an SFX coaster GoTG ride. Different themes/identical systems or Identical themes/different systems is what I'd prefer in every instance.
I agree with everything except Dinosaur. Indiana Jones is in another league!:D
 

Incomudro

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Just because you believe that doesn't make it fact. There were plenty of people who where adamant that Avatar didn't fit in AK, didn't stop it from happening.
Yes, but they were wrong. :p
Disney had a plan for a fantasy animal land, and Avatar is an analogy for conservation on Earth.
It was always a perfect fit.
Mystic Manor has nothing to do with animals or conservation.
I could see it in Adventureland.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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Possible themes for the Speedway overhaul / refresh / overlay or whatever other word is appropriate? Let's not start some pointless semantics discussion, pleeeeeeeease ;)

Cars is one option presumably?

What about Herbie? As in The Love Bug, not that LL rehash. I think that could be cute ....

How about a Tron theme continuing into Speedway for the little kids who can't ride the coaster?
 

gmajew

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A) The Magic Kingdom is not a clone of Disneyland.
B) Walt had absolutely no interest in building another Disneyland-style park. They were only planning another one as a weenie to draw people to EPCOT.

Peter pan
small world
pirates
hunted
main street

they may be slightly different but come on.... Just saying same rides different parks... Sure maybe a bump here different but close enough
 

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
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Yes, but they were wrong. :p
Disney had a plan for a fantasy animal land, and Avatar is an analogy for conservation on Earth.
It was always a perfect fit.
Mystic Manor has nothing to do with animals or conservation.
I could see it in Adventureland.
But think of the monkey! The monkey is key to the ride.
 

SteamboatJoe

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A) The Magic Kingdom is not a clone of Disneyland.
B) Walt had absolutely no interest in building another Disneyland-style park. They were only planning another one as a weenie to draw people to EPCOT.
Similarly, I read that MK was built to fund or at least hedge their bets on Epcot. MK and the resorts were safe, sure fire hits. Epcot was too progressive of an idea and super risky to get financial backing or spinsors on its own. They were afraid if it was built first and failed that it would not just sink the Florida project but the entire company. Plus, they needed time to figure out what post-Walt Epcot would actually be.
 
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