It's time for this thread to get a Politics Sticker slapped on it.
It’s not about my inability to visit DLR. No one cares about that, nor should they. Its about all the all the income (and yes taxes) lost from the DLR castmembers and all the businesses that surround DLR that depend on DLR, especially when there are proven, effective procedures to reopen DLR safety.In recent years, California got $12 in federal funding per resident, compared to Florida's $2,187.
Like you, I don't live in California but I wouldn't begrudge additional federal funding if it's needed in California, just like I'm not upset if there is a bad hurricane season in Florida and they get more help.
It feels like you are using this thread to vent about your general political beliefs instead of discussing Disneyland's eventual reopening.
If you don't intend to visit Disneyland why post? I am really looking to my next Disneyland trip. California is near the top of the list of places I will visit when I am ready to travel again in part because I'm more confident California's safety measures will make it a more healthy and pleasant place to visit. WDW seems to be handling many things relatively well but it's an island in a state with few restrictions.
I gotta say that Silicone Valley under ground rail project they stuffed into the COVID relief bill does look cool, it has nothing to do with COVID, but everyone loves trains right?Lets be real here, that bailout you claim is for CA is for the entire US irrespective of political affiliation or lockdown status. So we in CA are also paying for FL, and every other state. So its not isolated to just CA.
You do you, but it seems strange to me to fixate on DLR and the impacts of the various CMs, supporting businesses, etc. while you have no intention of doing anything yourself to make anything better for any of those various parties since you won't bother to visit them.It’s not about my inability to visit DLR. No one cares about that, nor should they. Its about all the all the income (and yes taxes) lost from the DLR castmembers and all the businesses that surround DLR that depend on DLR, especially when there are proven, effective procedures to reopen DLR safety.
I watch a YouTuber who runs an Apple independent repair shop in NYC. He gave his staff the option to keep working, taking all the known, proven precautions, or stay home till the money runs out and he goes out of of business. All but one elected to continue to work. The one who stayed home, got COVID, and if I remember some family members he lives with also contracted COVID.
My point is, working in an environment that is following the proper procedures could be safer than staying home. At work you have more situational awareness then when you are relaxed at home.
I gotta say that Silicone Valley under ground rail project they stuffed into the COVID relief bill does look cool, it has nothing to do with COVID, but everyone loves trains right?
It really seems like you just want your absolute worst case scenario fears confirmed when that is a very unlikely long term scenario.
It's important to remember that "this is a scenario I don't like" does not equal "this is the worst case scenario or the worst case scenario will happen."
Biden made the reopening of schools one of his priorities within the first 100 days of his term, and it seems like he is carrying that out. That said, if schools aren't comfortable opening up than I support those schools' right to do so. If parents really want their kids in a building, I'm sure they can find one that's open.
And while I'm not a Californian, I do think some of the vitriol at Newsom is undeserved. Sure, he had his hypocritical moments (see: every modern politician). Sure, he has theme park policies that almost everyone thinks are excessive and bunk. But some people here carry on as if was one of the worst political crooks of all time and I just don't see that at all.
If your normal is when will things like Disneyland open back up even if its with masks and other social distancing measures for a sense of normality, then we're looking at a couple months from now, likely in May.
If your normal is when will things go back to like it was pre-COVID days with no masks at all, well you're looking at sometime in 2022.
Its good to temper your expectations. However this is different than last year. Last year we had no vaccine and the pandemic was still in its infancy. Now we have a vaccine and there is a huge light now at the end of a long tunnel. So there is reason for optimism that Disneyland and other entertainment venues will open this year.It's not that I want my worst-case scenario fears to be confirmed. Far from it. Rather, it's more that I'm trying to temper my expectations, so I'm not too upset. I had seen a video from Fresh Baked about some clues pointing to Disneyland reopening via the Disneyland app, but frankly, until the government itself comes out and says something, I must hold my excitement in abeyance, especially after what happened last year before July. If anything happens, it will not be Disney's decision, it will be the government's.
One thing to think about there is no guarantee that anyone that would replace Newsom would do anything differently. So just because Newsom may get recalled (which I honestly doubt) doesn't mean anything will change.I actually am a Californian, and what's more, I live fairly close to Sacramento. I had voted for Newsom because he seemed like an ideal bulwark against Trump. But I believe that hypocrisy is going to get you in trouble.
One of the key advantages to the mRNA vaccines like the ones from Moderna and Pfizer is they can quickly, and I mean in a matter of days, be modified to combat any new variants that come along. So really this technology is a powerful tool to not only end this pandemic but also help prevent new ones in the future.I'm not in that big a hurry to go back to pre-COVID days (although it would be nice), but I hope cases do go down enough by May to allow for a reopening even with measures in place.
We must not forget about the more contagious variants. Granted, the vaccine can supposedly work against them, but what really concerns are the variants that are more elusive to the vaccine.
In fact Fauci has said since last July he wants schools reopened as fast and as safe as possible.
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Some NorCal Counties have moved to the Red Tier
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SoCal ICU capacity is now above 15%
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Orange County is close to going to Red. They meet the positivity rate and Health Equity metrics for Red. All that’s needed is the case rate to be at 7.0
Remember when all the liberals in California was yelling at OC being the epicenter of COVID in CA?
pepperidge farms remembers
It's time for this thread to get a Politics Sticker slapped on it.
To respect the hosts that pay the bills and set the rules that we all including yourself agree to in order to post on this privately owned forum. I would think that someone who presents themself as you choose to would be able to respect their legal rights. And yet you don't.But you think this thread should be tagged with a "Politics" symbol, in a backwater corner of a message board about a theme park that has been closed for the past year? What the hell is the purpose of that?
To respect the hosts that pay the bills and set the rules that we all including yourself agree to in order to post on this privately owned forum. I would think that someone who presents themself as you choose to would be able to respect their legal rights. And yet you don't.
We don't seem to be in the same conversation. And our conversation is again concluded for the night.
Vaccinations getting us back to normal (I noticed you said “a sense of normality,” as if the thought of actual normal is still far off...) means a different timeline depending on who you ask. Is it when the people who are most likely to get seriously ill/die are vaccinated? When everyone 16+ has a chance to be vaccinated? When everyone, including kids, has been vaccinated? All of these options mean entirely different things - the first could be within a month or two, the last could be another year
You are right, I happily support my local business, mostly restaurants and since COVID all the various delivery services the restaurants use. Yes it costs more, but the delivery folk love the tips We even had masks made by a local business, I have a Star Wars mask did I over pay for masks when I have piles of disposable ones, yup, but as you say, support locals.You do you, but it seems strange to me to fixate on DLR and the impacts of the various CMs, supporting businesses, etc. while you have no intention of doing anything yourself to make anything better for any of those various parties since you won't bother to visit them.
Why not focus on supporting the many Florida CMs who were laid off if that's your area of interest? The countless businesses in Florida that are struggling now?
I don't understand spending the time and energy to complain about how things are going in a state that you neither live in nor have any intention to visit. I certainly hope you're doing the same on the WDW side of the boards if you're that interested over here.
This railroad had nothing to do with COVID relief, but you are in your rights to think so, and the thought of a underground high speed rail for the Silicon Valley folks to use does sound cool.Infrastructure is one of the most effective forms of economic stimulus. Which has everything to do with a COVID induced economic recession.
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