EPCOT Remy's Ratatouille Adventure coming to Epcot

[nickys]

Apply it to the times when each ride opened and it makes perfect sense. All of those rides indeed fit the criteria. For modern examples it perfectly explains why something like Rise of the Resistance and also the Millenium Falcon are both E Tickets, but Slinky Dog Dash and Alien Swirling Saucers are not.

Was the Pirates ride system really that innovative at the time? Honest question by the way.
But in any case it means the criteria gets tougher as ride systems develop. So you’re not comparing like with like, unless rides lose their E ticket status as they get old.
However, whatever criteria are used, I would still not think of Ratatouille as an E ticket, albeit I haven’t ridden it.

 

[marni1971]

Pure opinion but I’d call Rat an E in Paris. Epcot personally I’d call it a D+.

Location matters too. IMHO It’s better than Frozenstrom but well below Rise or Forbidden Journey for example.

I’ve said it before but all things considered I think it’s a worthy addition for the direction the park is taking. If my opinion matters of course.

 

[fradz]

Pure opinion but I’d call Rat an E in Paris. Epcot personally I’d call it a D+.

Location matters too. IMHO It’s better than Frozenstrom but well below Rise or Forbidden Journey for example.

I’ve said it before but all things considered I think it’s a worthy addition for the direction the park is taking. If my opinion matters of course.

It's a good ride. Not record-breaking or anything else, but I always enjoy a ride and it brings me a smile everytime. I'm sure if people take it for what it is, it will be well received and will help a bunch with capacity at the beer park.

 

[Jon81uk]

Not really.
It says “thrill and immersion and ride systems”. That would rule out several - HM, PotC, basically any ride that I would actually ride because the thrill factor isn’t there (‘cos I’m a scaredy cat). Then it would rule out BTMRR (which I will happily ride) because it’s a plain old rickety roller coaster. And you’re left with about six, maybe a few more.

It doesn't need to go fast to thrill. Of course things were different 45 years ago, but being in the middle of a battle between two ships is quite thrilling. I think PotC did thrill people and continues to at least excite. Now Shanghai has taken that battle and made it a more modern excitement.

When I worked at Disney ticket designations were based on popularity, not anything else. Its why Country Bears was an "E" and Hall of Presidents was a "D" - they were swapped when CBJ turned out to be overly popular.

This of course is the real answer. Tickets were based on popularity and therefore related to the capacity of an attraction as much as the experiance.

 

[HauntedPirate]

Pure opinion but I’d call Rat an E in Paris. Epcot personally I’d call it a D+.

Location matters too. IMHO It’s better than Frozenstrom but well below Rise or Forbidden Journey for example.

I’ve said it before but all things considered I think it’s a worthy addition for the direction the park is taking. If my opinion matters of course.

Would you call it an E in Paris due to the ride itself or combined with the area as a whole? Because the area as a whole, in my book, is fantastic. I only was able to ride once and thought the ride was a high D/low E. Something for us to discuss sometime.

If only my wife and I could go there and have a couple of more rides to take in the entire attraction...

Rat will draw a lot of people to World IP Showcase.

 

[disneyC97]

A reminder that the Pack Mules were an "E" at Disneyland at one point.

 

[Magic Feather]

Pure opinion but I’d call Rat an E in Paris. Epcot personally I’d call it a D+.

Location matters too. IMHO It’s better than Frozenstrom but well below Rise or Forbidden Journey for example.

I’ve said it before but all things considered I think it’s a worthy addition for the direction the park is taking. If my opinion matters of course.

I’ve always found WDSP to be an interesting park in that I’ve always thought of it as the park full of “D+” attractions. This meaning that almost every ride (except for the flats) shoots to be an E, and most of them could be argued down to an E (Tower mostly excepted, but even then...). From RnRC to Crush to Rat to soon-to-be Frozen, the park is truly the land of “so close yet so far.”

 

[Mike S]

A reminder that the Pack Mules were an "E" at Disneyland at one point.

Which were ridden through a recreation of the deserts of the western US.

Also that was the 50s which yeah I’d say makes them an E for the time. Also it’s riding a real animal not something fake which is probably as close to total immersion as you can possibly get.

 

[marni1971]

I’ve always found WDSP to be an interesting park in that I’ve always thought of it as the park full of “D+” attractions. This meaning that almost every ride (except for the flats) shoots to be an E, and most of them could be argued down to an E (Tower mostly excepted, but even then...). From RnRC to Crush to Rat to soon-to-be Frozen, the park is truly the land of “so close yet so far.”

I first visited it when it was 3 months old. Now THAT was interesting. I’d never been in a park before where there was one spot and you could see the berm on all 4 sides.

Well, fencing. It didn’t even have a berm.

 

[MisterPenguin]

A reminder that the Pack Mules were an "E" at Disneyland at one point.

Determining "ticket level" is like General Relativity: You have to define from whose point of view you're using.


Historical Paper Tickets

During the time of Paper Tickets, the ticket level was originally determined by the cost of the attraction. You paid more for attractions that were expensive to build. And so, the E-Ticket represented the highest price at the time for a ride on the most expensive rides.​

​

However, over time, the paper ticket system started to be used as crowd control. The various versions of Astro Orbiter are just spinners, and thus, started out as a B-Ticket. But because they had such a low capacity, they were bumped from B to C then even a D-Ticket. Alice in Wonderland went in reverse... as a popular new ride, it started as a D-Ticket, then went to C and finally, a B-Ticket.​

Post-Paper Tickets: Guests

Guests learned that the E-Ticket rides were the ones with the longest lines. Partly because they were very popular since Disney put a lot of money into it. But also the rides with low capacity and long lines were bumped up in 'grade' for crowd control. So, for the average guest, an "E-Ticket" is any ride that they really like and has long lines.​

Post-Paper Tickets: WDI

For Imagineering, they use the graded ticket level internally, but, AFAIK, there is no written guidelines of what qualifies a ride to be an "E-Ticket." It seems that for Imagineering, the level of immersion has to be top notch from outside, through the queue, and with with a ride system which is cutting edge with cutting edge SFX. Consequently, a ride that may have been an "E" decades ago, would not be considered as such if built today. So, sometimes the 'grade' of a ride has to be graded on a chronological curve.​

 

[UNCgolf]

I’ve always found WDSP to be an interesting park in that I’ve always thought of it as the park full of “D+” attractions. This meaning that almost every ride (except for the flats) shoots to be an E, and most of them could be argued down to an E (Tower mostly excepted, but even then...). From RnRC to Crush to Rat to soon-to-be Frozen, the park is truly the land of “so close yet so far.”

Are they spending enough money on Frozen to push it towards E status? I know it's an expanded version of the one at EPCOT and not a direct clone, but I would think getting EPCOT's FEA up to E status would require a massive amount of money.

 

[marni1971]

Are they spending enough money on Frozen to push it towards E status? I know it's an expanded version of the one at EPCOT and not a direct clone, but I would think getting EPCOT's FEA up to E status would require a massive amount of money.

The ride is a clone in a very pretty environment

 

[UNCgolf]

The ride is a clone in a very pretty environment

So not even close to being an E. FEA is a C to me.

I thought they were supposed to be lengthening the ride by adding some more scenes.

 

[marni1971]

So not even close to being an E. FEA is a C to me.

I thought they were supposed to be lengthening the ride by adding some more scenes.

I admit what I saw was a year or more ago but the plan was a clone.

 

[UNCgolf]

I admit what I saw was a year or more ago but the plan was a clone.

That makes more sense to me, to be honest. I was very surprised when I read they were planning to make changes/additions to the ride.

Makes more sense from a current Disney management perspective, that is. It's insane that they're cloning that mediocre shoehorned ride rather than building something new without all the constraints involved with using the existing Maelstrom location.

 

[Mike S]

Determining "ticket level" is like General Relativity: You have to define from whose point of view you're using.


Historical Paper Tickets

During the time of Paper Tickets, the ticket level was originally determined by the cost of the attraction. You paid more for attractions that were expensive to build. And so, the E-Ticket represented the highest price at the time for a ride on the most expensive rides.​

​

However, over time, the paper ticket system started to be used as crowd control. The various versions of Astro Orbiter are just spinners, and thus, started out as a B-Ticket. But because they had such a low capacity, they were bumped from B to C then even a D-Ticket. Alice in Wonderland went in reverse... as a popular new ride, it started as a D-Ticket, then went to C and finally, a B-Ticket.​

Post-Paper Tickets: Guests

Guests learned that the E-Ticket rides were the ones with the longest lines. Partly because they were very popular since Disney put a lot of money into it. But also the rides with low capacity and long lines were bumped up in 'grade' for crowd control. So, for the average guest, an "E-Ticket" is any ride that they really like and has long lines.​

Post-Paper Tickets: WDI

For Imagineering, they use the graded ticket level internally, but, AFAIK, there is no written guidelines of what qualifies a ride to be an "E-Ticket." It seems that for Imagineering, the level of immersion has to be top notch from outside, through the queue, and with with a ride system which is cutting edge with cutting edge SFX. Consequently, a ride that may have been an "E" decades ago, would not be considered as such if built today. So, sometimes the 'grade' of a ride has to be graded on a chronological curve.​

That last one is what I use and imo the most accurate since, you know, it’s used by the people actually building the things so they should know a thing or two about classification. Older rides are basically grandfathered in especially if they still wow guests to this day despite their age. This is why Haunted Mansion, Pirates of the Caribbean, and It’s a Small World are still considered E Tickets even if they may not meet the complete standard set by a modern E Ticket like Rise of the Resistance.

 

[rle4lunch]

Is there a new completion timeline on this? We just got confirmation on our Poly lake view DVC room for our 8 days (we were split staying at SSR, but apparently they can't fill rooms at Poly the 2nd week of Dec), but we're only hitting Epcot on 1 day of the trip (for obvious reasons). Like for Rat and 220 to be operating when we get there.

 

[marni1971]

Is there a new completion timeline on this? We just got confirmation on our Poly lake view DVC room for our 8 days (we were split staying at SSR, but apparently they can't fill rooms at Poly the 2nd week of Dec), but we're only hitting Epcot on 1 day of the trip (for obvious reasons). Like for Rat and 220 to be operating when we get there.

Completion possibly Octoberish. Opening... don’t know.

 

[Darth Sidious]

The ride is a clone in a very pretty environment

At a minimal they could extend the load/unload and make a longer queue. I am carelessly assuming they at least do that much.

 

[Soluna16]

This thread is so off topic I went back 5 pages and could still not find any relevant info to the thread title.