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EPCOT Remy's Ratatouille Adventure coming to Epcot

Magic Feather

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And Ratatouille isn't even an E!

Is it? Maybe Disney classifies it that way internally. It doesn't look like one in ride through videos.
I'd say that Rat is objectively an E-Ticket. Is it a good E-Ticket? That is the more pressing debate (personally, I think it is a ride that I would view way more favorably if it opened in 2008 than when it actually did).
 

FigmentFan82

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I still have 150 and a LD/DVD player as part of my setup (No way am I replacing 150 movies). I also have a 400-disc DVD play and a 3D Blu-Ray so I'm pretty well covered :D
Nothing like hitting that halfway mark and having to flip the sucker to the other side (unless of course it's a dual laser model)
 

Mike S

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I’m trying to remember how many times we’ve already debated E vs D in this thread. When I rode it, I thought it was cute but not worth riding again that trip. To me, that makes it a D at best. But in Epcot it will certainly be a top demand especially when new.
Read my signature for what defines an E Ticket. I love that quote for it’s ability to stop the inane arguments that start up around this topic.
 

UNCgolf

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Read my signature for what defines an E Ticket. I love that quote for it’s ability to stop the inane arguments that start up around this topic.

I don't think the quote really helps that much, because it's still open to interpretation. I read that and say there's no way Ratatouille meets that criteria. Other people could read it and say "Oh yeah, Ratatouille definitely fits!"

Something like Spaceship Earth wouldn't be considered an E-ticket under that definition either. Scope matters as much (and I'd say moreso) than thrill.
 
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lazyboy97o

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I don't think the quote really helps that much, because it's still open to interpretation. I read that and say there's no way Ratatouille meets that criteria. Other people could read it and say "Oh yeah, Ratatouille definitely fits!"
It’s also a bit of a logical fallacy, appealing to the authority of the guy who immerses with giant boxes and broke the Disneyland Monorail.
 

nickys

Premium Member
Read my signature for what defines an E Ticket. I love that quote for it’s ability to stop the inane arguments that start up around this topic.
Not really.
It says “thrill and immersion and ride systems”. That would rule out several - HM, PotC, basically any ride that I would actually ride because the thrill factor isn’t there (‘cos I’m a scaredy cat). Then it would rule out BTMRR (which I will happily ride) because it’s a plain old rickety roller coaster. And you’re left with about six, maybe a few more.
 
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Rich Brownn

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Read my signature for what defines an E Ticket. I love that quote for it’s ability to stop the inane arguments that start up around this topic.
When I worked at Disney ticket designations were based on popularity, not anything else. Its why Country Bears was an "E" and Hall of Presidents was a "D" - they were swapped when CBJ turned out to be overly popular.
 

Mike S

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Not really.
It says “thrill and immersion and ride systems”. That would rule out several - HM, PotC, basically any ride that I would actually ride because the thrill factor isn’t there (‘cos I’m a scaredy cat). Then it would rule out BTMRR (which I will happily ride) because it’s a plain old rickety roller coaster. And you’re left with about six, maybe a few more.
Apply it to the times when each ride opened and it makes perfect sense. All of those rides indeed fit the criteria. For modern examples it perfectly explains why something like Rise of the Resistance and also the Millenium Falcon are both E Tickets, but Slinky Dog Dash and Alien Swirling Saucers are not.
 
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UNCgolf

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Apply it to the times when each ride opened and it makes perfect sense. All of those rides indeed fit the criteria. For modern examples it perfectly explains why something like Rise of the Resistance and also the Millenium Falcon are both E Tickets, but Slinky Dog Dash and Alien Swirling Saucers are not.

That would mean none of the original EPCOT rides were E-tickets because none of them could really be described as thrilling -- at least not in the way people would normally describe a ride -- and if you're going to change the interpretation of that for different rides, then the quote becomes meaningless again. Some of them were clearly Es.

Also I don't think the Millenium Falcon is an E-ticket, but I concede that there's at least an argument. Same with Toy Story Mania, which I'm sure some would classify as an E but I don't think comes close.
 
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jt04

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I think I’ve said this about The Little Mermaid before, and probably Ratatouille as well. It’s a D Ticket with the cost and size of an E Ticket defended as a C Ticket.

The Overton window has been moved substantially since 1971. I've adjusted and see TLM as a solid D now. Ratatouille is E in comparison. IMO.
 

Pi on my Cake

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In the Parks
Yes
I think the most important part of this debate is that in the modern era the distinction between D and E is basically meaningless semantics.

For the modern era and uses of the terms, A/B = Small things, C = Medium Things, D/E = Big Things. Anything more specific than that is basically just semantics and opinions at this point.
 

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