News Remy's Ratatouille Adventure coming to Epcot

DarleneBurrows

Active Member
It's a very good ride in Paris, that really doesn't belong there ironically. ie, you are building a replica French city in Paris makes no sense when you have it a few minutes away outside the Disney gates in Paris.

Good fit for Orlando, Just find the time to build this horridly far away.
 

UpAllNight

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Any word on if this will receive any form of tech updates to the version in Paris? You’d hope the way they learned to blend screens into sets for Shanghai Pirates could be used to some effect here
 

lazyboy97o

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Any word on if this will receive any form of tech updates to the version in Paris? You’d hope the way they learned to blend screens into sets for Shanghai Pirates could be used to some effect here
They’ll buy new equipment but it will be an essentially identical show.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
It's a very good ride in Paris, that really doesn't belong there ironically. ie, you are building a replica French city in Paris makes no sense when you have it a few minutes away outside the Disney gates in Paris.

Good fit for Orlando, Just find the time to build this horridly far away.

Paris has a perfectly fine rat population!
 

DisneyGentlemanV2.0

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Another factor to consider is the thermal massing of the structures. A lightweight steel structure is much easier to air condition in the swampy Florida climate than a heavy-duty concrete bunker. Given France's cooler climate, there's not as much worry about the structure soaking up the heat from the summer sun and retaining it for days or weeks on end.

It's the same reason why tropical architecture has historically been mostly wood, while stone structures tend to be found primarily in cooler areas. Before everything had central air conditioning, structures were designed with the local climate in mind; warming a building up wasn't difficult (build a fire) so keeping them cool was the primary concern.
This sounds plausible but is wrong. Thermal mass only matters if you change temperature. If you hold temperature constant, it does not matter.

Now if you consider day/night cycles, you are half right. A stone building that soaks up heat during the day will stay warmer at night and require more air conditioning to cool. But that balances during the day, where there building cold soaks at night and requires less air conditioning to cool during the day.

There are many examples of stone buildings in hot climates. It's more about air circulation when you don't have air conditioning.
 

Missing20K

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It's a very good ride in Paris, that really doesn't belong there ironically. ie, you are building a replica French city in Paris makes no sense when you have it a few minutes away outside the Disney gates in Paris.

Good fit for Orlando, Just find the time to build this horridly far away.

No question I had an odd moment of self-awareness being in a recreated Paris just a short metro ride from the real thing. But it's so well done, and it still felt more like the set of a movie, I just went with it. And again, it's just a really beautifully themed area. I imagine it's even stranger for a Parisian.

how about by an entire park themed to california?
...in anaheim

an idea so strong only a hollywood exec could dream it
"A California themed theme park in the already California themed California" - Defunctland

Disney's new design philosophy, "hmmm it's so meta".
 

smile

Well-Known Member
"A California themed theme park in the already California themed California" - Defunctland

hey, let's be fair to mr. e...
it was also a costly experiment to see how cheaply a park could be designed and built, too!

...in an evolved market like los angeles

...a true sister park ...and right next door... to walt's folly

:mad:

apologies, but the legacy and actions of pressler's mentor just grind the ol' gears
 

Missing20K

Well-Known Member
This sounds plausible but is wrong. Thermal mass only matters if you change temperature. If you hold temperature constant, it does not matter.

Now if you consider day/night cycles, you are half right. A stone building that soaks up heat during the day will stay warmer at night and require more air conditioning to cool. But that balances during the day, where there building cold soaks at night and requires less air conditioning to cool during the day.

There are many examples of stone buildings in hot climates. It's more about air circulation when you don't have air conditioning.

Also, concrete and stone hold up better for hurricanes. Hence why so much of the Caribbean is built from poured concrete or concrete block. Florida too. After Hurricane Andrew, Florida Building Code required Hurricane Proof Glass. Even though some buildings are still stick built from lumber and siding. Which begs the question if you're in a hurricane do you hide behind your wall or your window?

Thermal massing is a topic of recent research and scholars are attempting to create maps depicting where thermal massing is of a benefit and where it is not.
Mapping thermal mass benefit
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Thermal massing is a topic of recent research and scholars are attempting to create maps depicting where thermal massing is of a benefit and where it is not.
Mapping thermal mass benefit

Simple, all buildings should have three feet of packed earth exterior walls.

I swear that's the route the Swolphin took. Those pillars be thick.
 

lazyboy97o

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Also, concrete and stone hold up better for hurricanes. Hence why so much of the Caribbean is built from poured concrete or concrete block. Florida too. After Hurricane Andrew, Florida Building Code required Hurricane Proof Glass. Even though some buildings are still stick built from lumber and siding. Which begs the question if you're in a hurricane do you hide behind your wall or your window?
The “hurricane proof glass” is not required throughout the state and is only one option. The requirements for large missile impact resistant glazing kick in when a buildin is located within the wind borne debris region, which is determined by ultimate wind load requirements in excess of 140 mph. Around Walt Disney World this kicks in for Risk Category III, so impact resistant glazing or shutters are not required for a lot of construction.

Exterior materials must carry a Florida Product Approval to ensure they don’t easily go flying about. It’s also not uncommon in residential work to see CMU used for the first floor while the upper floor(s) and roof are wood.
 

Missing20K

Well-Known Member
The “hurricane proof glass” is not required throughout the state and is only one option. The requirements for large missile impact resistant glazing kick in when a buildin is located within the wind borne debris region, which is determined by ultimate wind load requirements in excess of 140 mph. Around Walt Disney World this kicks in for Risk Category III, so impact resistant glazing or shutters are not required for a lot of construction.

Exterior materials must carry a Florida Product Approval to ensure they don’t easily go flying about. It’s also not uncommon in residential work to see CMU used for the first floor while the upper floor(s) and roof are wood.

Sorry I didn't mean to suggest all of Florida requires hurricane glass. As you said, only in certain geographic areas. And from what I know, yes it can be a plastic product or a filmed glass so nothing shatters or penetrates. However, I will defer to your knowledge of local Florida building codes. :cool:
 

crxbrett

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i think steel probably flexes a bit better in earthquake conditions as well.

Check out this video from the '11 quake in Japan and you can see how important steel and it's ability to bend and flex in a major earthquake truly is. A concrete or stone building would pretty much crack and completely crumble and fall to the ground in the same situation.

Skycrapers - Japan march '11 earthquake
 

EricsBiscuit

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I was leaving Le Cellier after park closing on Sunday and saw that they had the lights on
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