News Remy's Ratatouille Adventure coming to Epcot

[The Empress Lilly]

Considering Rat is the highest grossing animated film ever, in France and is almost completely based in the food traditions of France, this is one of those times I would have to disagree with it not having anything to do with the area. GotG, Frozen, etc...are shoehorned attempts to fit an IP in with its area, but Rat is about as French as you can get.

I don't like IP anymore than anybody else, but if they were going to pick one, this is about as close to a home run as you will ever get for a country and Disney IP.

Rat has no relationship to WS' mission, theme, atmosphere and aesthetics. It just takes place in a locale superficially similar to a WS pavilion.

Similarly, Toy Story Midway Mania does not belong on Main Street for taking place in the USA, nor for having been a box office success there.

 

[raymusiccity]

I'm sorry to be a Debbie Downer but temper your enthusiasm for the ride if it is an exact copy from DLP. The expansion of the France pavilion is nice, and more rides in WS are welcome. This one does fit in perfectly, just not a ride to get too excited about. I went to DLP at Thanksgiving and was excited to experience the ride, but not overly so. I was mildly disappointed. It isn't a bad ride and I was entertained, but nothing memorable. And Ratatouille is one of my favorite Pixar movies. Just my impression.

We'll, if all Disney does is add rides that aren't bad, then that's good! (Look at the wasted resources on 'Antarctica' over at Seaworld!)

 

[marni1971]

Pics of ladders or never happened.

It happened.

Ladders there too. But I can’t post my pics of him.

 

[larandtra]

I would echo that if they are going to be IP driven and in a World Showcase pavillion add an IP based ride, Rat is about as good as it gets. It fits perfectly. one of the themes of WS is the culture which includes Food, and Rat is all about the food. Its a cute story about a bad guy, a human and Rat, but, its all based on food. And seeing as French Cuisine is some of the most talked about ( how many chefs are classically french trained and it is highly sought after) and trained for cuisines in the world, I believe Rat is an absolute fit. If we must have IPs, make them make sense. Rat in France and Poppins in UK make absolute sense. Frozen in Norway and GotG in Future world do not, no matter how much they try to sell it.

 

[Castle Cake Apologist]

Considering Rat is the highest grossing animated film ever, in France and is almost completely based in the food traditions of France, this is one of those times I would have to disagree with it not having anything to do with the area. GotG, Frozen, etc...are shoehorned attempts to fit an IP in with its area, but Rat is about as French as you can get.

I don't like IP anymore than anybody else, but if they were going to pick one, this is about as close to a home run as you will ever get for a country and Disney IP.

It's not a secret that I'm vehemently against the inclusion of IP for IP's sake in Epcot, but I have to agree here. The film very much feels like a love letter to Paris. Outside of not wanting characters in WS (A ship that sailed long ago), I can't find too many reasons to object to the attraction on principle.

My issue is with the ride itself, assuming it's a direct lift from WDSP (it is). It's pretty boring and the screens are very obvious at many points in the attraction, which takes you completely out of it.

 

[Ripken10]

It's not a secret that I'm vehemently against the inclusion of IP for IP's sake in Epcot, but I have to agree here. The film very much feels like a love letter to Paris. Outside of not wanting characters in WS (A ship that sailed long ago), I can't find too many reasons to object to the attraction on principle.

My issue is with the ride itself, assuming it's a direct lift from WDSP (it is). It's pretty boring and the screens are very obvious at many points in the attraction, which takes you completely out of it.

I think the ride was excellent. It will be very popular because it is a very enjoyable ride. You will be in the minority, but like any ride, there will be people that don't enjoy it no matter how great it is.

 

[Castle Cake Apologist]

I think the ride was excellent. It will be very popular because it is a very enjoyable ride. You will be in the minority, but like any ride, there will be people that don't enjoy it no matter how great it is.

My complaints about the ride are hardly unique.

Very little effort went into the integration of the very obvious giant screens and the LPS ride system feels pointless for the majority of the attraction.

And of course it will be popular. It's something new in a park that has been allowed to stagnate for the better part of a decade, just like the park it was originally designed for.

 

[Ripken10]

My complaints about the ride are hardly unique.

Very little effort went into the integration of the very obvious giant screens and the LPS ride system feels pointless for the majority of the attraction.

You are correct, Unique means only one, and you are not the only one. There is not a single ride on the planet where only one person has complaints about it. But that does not change the fact that you will still be in the minority. It's a good ride, a very popular ride, and it will be the same here. While there is many reasons they are bringing the ride here, the fact that the IP fits would not matter to execs if the ride wasn't considered a homerun.

 

[Castle Cake Apologist]

You are correct, Unique means only one, and you are not the only one. There is not a single ride on the planet where only one person has complaints about it. But that does not change the fact that you will still be in the minority. It's a good ride, a very popular ride, and it will be the same here. While there is many reasons they are bringing the ride here, the fact that the IP fits would not matter to execs if the ride wasn't considered a homerun.

The ride is successful because it was put into a park that so deperately needed anything new, kinda like they're doing here. The main reason it is being brought here is because they have somewhere that it fits, and all the hard work is already done for them when it comes to development.

You're more than welcome to enjoy the ride, but I'm hardly the first person to point out the poor design of the attraction. The majority of the ride is moving to different giant movie screens to sit still and watch a film before moving to the next giant screen and sitting still to watch a film. I just think that Disney can do much better than a lower scale Universal attraction, but obviously your milage may vary.

Neither of us will change the other's mind, since we're arguing about something that is highly subjective, so let's not go back and forth.

 

[Kman101]

I would echo that if they are going to be IP driven and in a World Showcase pavillion add an IP based ride, Rat is about as good as it gets. It fits perfectly. one of the themes of WS is the culture which includes Food, and Rat is all about the food. Its a cute story about a bad guy, a human and Rat, but, its all based on food. And seeing as French Cuisine is some of the most talked about ( how many chefs are classically french trained and it is highly sought after) and trained for cuisines in the world, I believe Rat is an absolute fit. If we must have IPs, make them make sense. Rat in France and Poppins in UK make absolute sense. Frozen in Norway and GotG in Future world do not, no matter how much they try to sell it.

Yep. One of the least offensive additions and people still complain about it. Nothing new in terms of the complaining though. Not sure what repeating it will do. They're not going to suddenly change their minds. As long as the pavilion remains intact, I see nothing wrong with a ride addition. I know everyone clings to needing it to be educational but not everything needs to be. I like how some have created rules for the park that just can't be bent. What if the park opened with a fun romp with a rat that had no movie?

 

[Kman101]

The ride is successful because it was put into a park that so deperately needed anything new, kinda like they're doing here. The main reason it is being brought here is because they have somewhere that it fits, and all the hard work is already done for them when it comes to development.

You're more than welcome to enjoy the ride, but I'm hardly the first person to point out the poor design of the attraction. The majority of the ride is moving to different giant movie screens to sit still and watch a film before moving to the next giant screen and sitting still to watch a film. I just think that Disney can do much better than a lower scale Universal attraction, but obviously your milage may vary.

YMMV. Many enjoy the attraction. It will no doubt be a hit with the WDW crowds.

 

[Castle Cake Apologist]

Yep. One of the least offensive additions and people still complain about it.

Am I not allowed to feel that a ride is lackluster, simply because you don't feel the same way? For all the times you've tried to make the point that everybody is entitled to their opinion, this feels like you're taking the opposite stance. I never said it was in any way an offensive addition... in fact, I even said that I think it can fit into WS well.

Have you ridden Rat? It's pretty boring, honestly.

 

[Kman101]

Am I not allowed to feel that a ride is lackluster, simply because you don't feel the same way? I never said it was in any way an offensive addition... in fact, I even said that I think it can fit into WS well.

Have you ridden Rat? It's pretty boring, honestly.

No. It's just the way some people express it as if their opinion is the correct one, you're telling people how to feel about it.

It doesn't seem boring to me.

I know it's shortcomings, it's a bit lackluster in terms of the use of LPS. I just simply said most of the WDW guests will enjoy it. YMMV on the meaning of that.

 

[Castle Cake Apologist]

What if the park opened with a fun romp with a rat that had no movie?

Then I would refer you to my post just a few posts above yours, where I said that I have no problem with this ride coming to WS and that I feel it is a good fit.

As I specifically pointed out, my issue is with the ride itself. It's literally just moving from giant screen to giant screen to stop for a few seconds and watch a video clip play. It's boring and I think it's a weak attraction. It doesn't even really use the LPS system for anything cool.

I don't get excited for new things simply because they're new.

 

[Kman101]

Then I would refer you to my post just a few posts above yours, where I said that I have no problem with this ride coming to WS and that I feel it is a good fit.

I know you said it would be a good fit. It definitely has it's shortcomings. And I'm not excusing them, I just don't think the majority of regular guests analyze these things as much as we do, hence why I said WDW guests would eat it up. Not trying to invalidate your opinion at all

I don't get excited for new things simply because they're new.

And neither do I.

 

[Castle Cake Apologist]

I know you said it would be a good fit. It definitely has it's shortcomings. And I'm not excusing them, I just don't think the majority of regular guests analyze these things as much as we do, hence why I said WDW guests would eat it up. Not trying to invalidate your opinion at all



And neither do I.

The biggest issue with that being the fact that Disney now seems to feel that designing for the average guest is acceptable.

 

[Kman101]

The biggest issue with that being the fact that Disney now seems to feel that designing for the average guest is acceptable.

Agreed. It's a big issue. I wish the average guest would wake up. I don't expect them all to be like us, LOL, but I mean ... certain things I can let slide but the guests will just eat anything up. People are genuinely EXCITED for Pixar Pier. I don't get it.

And I've said it before but a few friends of mine who aren't into Disney at all (one does love Universal, though) are all very excited for Star Wars Land, Tron, Guardians of the Galaxy. Unfortunately they are aiming for the right crowd (not that some of them can't be quality additions, of course, but TRON is a nicely themed short coaster and Guardians is also a thrill coaster, so they'll be LOVED by the general public.)

 

[Horizons1]

Goodbye expansion pad for another country.

 

[Bender123]

The ride is successful because it was put into a park that so deperately needed anything new, kinda like they're doing here. The main reason it is being brought here is because they have somewhere that it fits, and all the hard work is already done for them when it comes to development.

You're more than welcome to enjoy the ride, but I'm hardly the first person to point out the poor design of the attraction. The majority of the ride is moving to different giant movie screens to sit still and watch a film before moving to the next giant screen and sitting still to watch a film. I just think that Disney can do much better than a lower scale Universal attraction, but obviously your milage may vary.

Neither of us will change the other's mind, since we're arguing about something that is highly subjective, so let's not go back and forth.

Im just happy that its a ride...Im tired of people complaining when a new ride isn't a super headliner. The parks just need some more entertaining C/D ticket rides that eat some people and last longer than 90 seconds. It isn't the best ride, by any means, but Little Mermaid at MK is great for what it is...its a low key dark ride that keeps you busy for a few minutes. The AAs aren't great, but (shrug)...

 

[Kman101]

Goodbye expansion pad for another country.

I believe a pavilion could go in front. Maybe it kills the chance of said pavilion having an attraction. @marni1971 ?