EPCOT Remy's Ratatouille Adventure coming to Epcot

Sir_Cliff

Sir_Cliff

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DonaldDoleWhip said:
Thank you - I promise I’m not trying to be a total Karen or protest the use of another language in the parks!

On the contrary, it would be so very Epcot to support guests who have that initial spark to learn more, rather than shrug and say, “you’re on your own, have you tried Google Translate?”

Shouldn’t be limited to the kids, either - plenty of adults missed their chance to learn another language (or it’s been decades since their last Spanish class), and I can’t imagine this would go unappreciated.

I like the idea so much, I may even suggest it at Guest Relations when I’m next in the park. Don’t expect anything to happen from there, but frankly it seems like a no-brainer to me.
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Completely agree on all of this and hope Guest Relations listens!

Playing around with languages should tick all the boxes for them: interactive, entertaining, and educational. They can even work IP into it if they must (e.g. in the app have Miguel and Mama Imelda teach you some Spanish phrases, Anna and Olaf some Norwegian phrases, etc.). As you say, a version for adults would also work well and I'm sure plenty of people would get into it.

They seem to be leaning into the language element with Harmonious (*ducks*), so it makes a lot of sense to make language a bigger part of World Showcase. Particularly once they're again bringing all those native speakers over to work there.

I'm also a big booster of people learning languages, so I'm with you there! I did French right to the end of high school, but the standard of language teaching in Australia was so poor I never learnt much. Spanish I took up later and now work in a lot of the time, while my efforts to pick up the language living in Germany and now the Netherlands have had mixed results!
 
donsullivan

donsullivan

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DonaldDoleWhip said:
Read my posts that you’ve missed. I speak French. I’ve ridden in Paris. I like the French and understand most of it, for the hundredth time.
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I have read them before making the post and see lots of attempts to distract from your apparent message. From what I see you think it should all be in English or Disney has some random obligation to teach guests French. It's entertainment. Both versions are identical (I've ridden the one in Paris too) and both fit perfectly where they are. Should they be trying to teach English in the version in Paris too?
 
DonaldDoleWhip

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donsullivan said:
I have read them before making the post and see lots of attempts to distract from your apparent message. From what I see you think it should all be in English or Disney has some random obligation to teach guests French. It's entertainment. Both versions are identical (I've ridden the one in Paris too) and both fit perfectly where they are. Should they be trying to teach English in the version in Paris too?
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I actually never said it should all be in English. Even going back to my very first reply on this topic (which was to someone else’s complaint), I immediately pointed out how cool it would be if the ride inspires anyone to learn more French, and how it provides a really nice carrot for anyone who’s already learned the language and visitors from French-speaking countries.

Second reply is where I mention the educational idea, as well as teaching those poor American CMs how to actually say “bonjour.”

I’m shocked that the proposal of a minor educational element on the app has been so torn apart. So much for Epcot being educational.
 
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Sharon&Susan

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donsullivan said:
I have read them before making the post and see lots of attempts to distract from your apparent message. From what I see you think it should all be in English or Disney has some random obligation to teach guests French. It's entertainment. Both versions are identical (I've ridden the one in Paris too) and both fit perfectly where they are. Should they be trying to teach English in the version in Paris too?
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There's way more English speaking visitors at Disneyland Paris, than French speaking ones at Walt Disney World.
 
ImperfectPixie

ImperfectPixie

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donsullivan said:
I have read them before making the post and see lots of attempts to distract from your apparent message. From what I see you think it should all be in English or Disney has some random obligation to teach guests French. It's entertainment. Both versions are identical (I've ridden the one in Paris too) and both fit perfectly where they are. Should they be trying to teach English in the version in Paris too?
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WOW.

All he suggested was that Disney offer a means of translation for those who are curious. Being French-Canadian myself and knowing but a little French, I'd be exactly the type of person he's talking about because I love learning new bits of language.
 
SpoiledBlueMilk

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DonaldDoleWhip said:
Yes, exactly this! I'm constantly getting weird notifications from MDE for trivia I don't care about (e.g. it's the 15th anniversary of Soarin'! Learn more about Dumbo!). Likewise, the parks are filled with interactive little stops where Play Disney Parks can trigger an effect in the park. Saw one in DL's Peter Pan queue the other day.

It would be a very simple ask to offer some useful phrases and translations relevant to the Ratatouille experience. As expanded upon later, I even think it would be a great idea for each pavilion whether it has an attraction or not: some useful content that will be highly engaging and meaningful to a specific pool of the audience.

That's really all I'm putting forward. Nothing against the French at all (besides acknowledging the intent: cost & laziness).
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If they could do some sort of translation/learn a phrase game for World Showcase, I'm all for it. Make it a damn scavenger hunt since they do those all the time.
 
EPCOTCenterLover

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MansionButler84 said:
Sometimes I turn off The Little Mermaid out of rage whenever “Les Poissons” comes on. What the hell is he even talking about? I assume poisoning the crab. I won’t let my children listen to such disturbing content so we instead sing wholesome classics like “What Made the Red Man Red?” or the “Siamese Cat Song.”
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How about Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah? 😂
 
DonaldDoleWhip

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SpoiledBlueMilk said:
It isn't groundbreaking, but it is fun.
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That’s totally fair. Again, for those who didn’t know, I rode on opening day in Paris, when the expectation was that it could be an E, and it compares very unfavorably to all the recent openings of that time.

I’m also disappointed it uses a pavilion expansion pad, and that the building is so large for how ‘flat’ the experience is, but the French is certainly a plus. Makes it that much better of a fit for WS.
 
SpoiledBlueMilk

SpoiledBlueMilk

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DonaldDoleWhip said:
That’s totally fair. Again, for those who didn’t know, I rode on opening day in Paris, when the expectation was that it could be an E, and it compares very unfavorably to all the recent openings of that time.

I’m also disappointed it uses a pavilion expansion pad, and that the building is so large for how ‘flat’ the experience is, but the French is certainly a plus. Makes it that much better of a fit for WS.
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God only knows what they will do to Germany if they decide a Rapunzel ride needs to be built.
 
DonaldDoleWhip

DonaldDoleWhip

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SpoiledBlueMilk said:
God only knows what they will do to Germany if they decide a Rapunzel ride needs to be built.
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There are so many IP ideas for WS that could work - I would particularly like to see Colombia with Encanto!

That’s why I’ll always be a little disappointed we got this one (again, lazy) but at least it’s something.
 


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