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EPCOT Remy's Ratatouille Adventure coming to Epcot

MrPromey

MrPromey

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Brer Oswald said:
But why? Who’s coming to see these new attractions? Locals? In 2022, when international and distant domestic guests (hopefully) start to return, they’re going to have Star Wars Land, Mickey, and Ratatouille brand new to them. That’s just the people that haven’t been since 2019. There are also tons who haven’t been for a longer while, so Pandora and TSL might be new to them. Why blow their load when they can bring even more people back in 2023 and beyond, after their 2022 (50th celebration) trip.
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We are, after all, talking about the place that still acts as though SDMT is new. 🤷‍♂️
 
MrPromey

MrPromey

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ppete1975 said:
my opinion is they want it to be the biggest celebration in the parks history. And want to play every card they have. Esp with epcots 40th and MKS 50th overlapping
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In my opinion, this is really only important in the minds of fans.

I'm pretty sure if they could promote it as the biggest celebration in the park's history with a marketing blitz where they're able to slip in things that have opened over the last 5 years as part of it, toss up some flashy banners everywhere, maybe do a temporary castle show and offer some special up-charge events (and of course a new cupcake), oh, and Ebay-ready event merch, they'd be perfectly happy with that and I'm not convinced that COVID really has much to do with it, honestly other than providing an excuse.*

I know that sounds incredibly cynical of current management (and it is) but it's also not a new thing. Most of these celebrations are really just marketing excuses, anyway - anyone remember the 100th anniversary of Walt's birthday? That was right off the back of the millennial celebration.

*I mean, budgets really are tighter as a result but I think this is their thinking, regardless of pandemics.
 
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TTA94

TTA94

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llrain said:
Got a strong feeling that park hopping will be turned off on Oct1 so those that are in the official 50th park(mk), will not be allowed to double dose and head to epcot for the ride. Giving those who wanted to do MK that day but got bumped away a treat for choosing Epcot. At this point if I were going Id honestly choose EPCOT over MK on Oct 1.
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If Harmonious gets announced for Oct 1st, your probably right.
 
ppete1975

ppete1975

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MrPromey said:
In my opinion, this is really only important in the minds of fans.

I'm pretty sure if they could promote it as the biggest celebration in the park's history with a marketing blitz where they're able to slip in things that have opened over the last 5 years as part of it, toss up some flashy banners everywhere, maybe do a temporary castle show and offer some special up-charge events (and of course a new cupcake), they would be perfectly happy with that.

I know that sounds incredibly cynical of current management (and it is) but it's also not a new thing. Most of these celebrations are really just marketing excuses, anyway - anyone remember the 100th anniversary of Walt's birthday? That was right off the back of the millennial celebration.
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EXACTLY.... have a tv special... use it in all your ads... then use the footage for the next 10 years.. thats why i expect them to try and get everything opened
 
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YodaMan

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I could see them doing what they did with Galaxy’s Edge in WDW and doing a solid month of previews for CMs and APs. Everything was ready early and they bled off so much of the local demand by doing those previews with set time windows. I could see them doing similar for August and September and having APs and CMs schedule times to come and preview the ride so everyone is spaced out time-wise. Would make October 1 a lot smoother and still allow the ride to “open” well beforehand while it’s already ready to go.
 
MrPromey

MrPromey

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YodaMan said:
I could see them doing what they did with Galaxy’s Edge in WDW and doing a solid month of previews for CMs and APs. Everything was ready early and they bled off so much of the local demand by doing those previews with set time windows. I could see them doing similar for August and September and having APs and CMs schedule times to come and preview the ride so everyone is spaced out time-wise. Would make October 1 a lot smoother and still allow the ride to “open” well beforehand while it’s already ready to go.
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This isn't Galaxy's Edge, though, and everything wasn't ready when they did that. The main attraction was still months away from an opening date and the ride they did have open, was still having issues. They absolutely needed experience in that instance.

Plus, that Millennium Falcon was just sitting there collecting dust when it could have been showing up on Twitter and Instagram all over the place still collecting dust like it does today, but with smiling people in front of it.

This isn't a whole new "land" and it's not a groundbreaking combination of new tech. It's a clone of an attraction that has successfully operated for over half a decade. Sure, there could be a loose wire somewhere or something but it's not like they can't cycle the ride for months empty with the occasional staff on board.

This isn't like most "new" attractions. They're not rushing to meet a deadline or making changes or working things out. All signs point to them being able to let you in to ride it right this very moment if they really wanted to.

Usually, there is a projected opening window and usually, they blow that original window and they're scrambling to get it open for the next one. This ain't that. They're intentionally sitting on a completed project.

At the moment, this is Walt Disney World's Black Widow.*

I know there's a lot of wishful thinking going on around here that people will have access before the date that Disney just announced and I guess they could offer previews or soft openings if they want to be nice or they believe there is a marketing up-side to doing it but this isn't a case where they have any real need to.

I wouldn't be shocked if it soft-opened a week or two early just to give the cast guest experience but I would not count on much more than that and instead be thoroughly delighted and surprised** if they did otherwise, at this point.



*for those who somehow aren't in the know, that would be the movie that was supposed to come out last year and has been in the can for almost 12 months until they can release it for optimum profit.

**okay, maybe I'm slightly overstating the feeling's I'd have...
 
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Sir_Cliff

Sir_Cliff

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MrPromey said:
In my opinion, this is really only important in the minds of fans.

I'm pretty sure if they could promote it as the biggest celebration in the park's history with a marketing blitz where they're able to slip in things that have opened over the last 5 years as part of it, toss up some flashy banners everywhere, maybe do a temporary castle show and offer some special up-charge events (and of course a new cupcake), oh, and Ebay-ready event merch, they'd be perfectly happy with that and I'm not convinced that COVID really has much to do with it, honestly other than providing an excuse.*

I know that sounds incredibly cynical of current management (and it is) but it's also not a new thing. Most of these celebrations are really just marketing excuses, anyway - anyone remember the 100th anniversary of Walt's birthday? That was right off the back of the millennial celebration.

*I mean, budgets really are tighter as a result but I think this is their thinking, regardless of pandemics.
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I think the point about these celebrations being marketing exercises is very much worth keeping in mind in the case of WDW's 50th.

They'll promote it, but would it really make more sense to be unveiling hundreds of millions of dollars worth of new attractions to drive attendance to a major international tourist attraction that still has attendance restrictions in 2021 or to hold off and see how 2022 and 2023 shape up? The campaign will all happen and they will roll at least Ratatouille into it, but they're not going to throw new offerings at guests in service of nostalgia if they think they could make more money holding off a little longer.
 
bcoachable

bcoachable

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Sue_Vongello said:
Along these lines ... yes, doesn’t seem like they are trying to make a big splash or the biggest celebration ever. The truth is probably that this announcement just cements that they don’t plan on having anything else ready to go for the 50th and they moved this to that date so they don’t look foolish for only having new castle lights and Mickey costumes to celebrate. It’s more of an ominous sign that we have a long wait in front of us for anything else.
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Meanwhile, up I-4 a few exits....
 
ppete1975

ppete1975

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llrain said:
Got a strong feeling that park hopping will be turned off on Oct1 so those that are in the official 50th park(mk), will not be allowed to double dose and head to epcot for the ride. Giving those who wanted to do MK that day but got bumped away a treat for choosing Epcot. At this point if I were going Id honestly choose EPCOT over MK on Oct 1.
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id choose hollywood studios and hope with all the commotion id have star wars to myself
 

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