EPCOT Remy's Ratatouille Adventure coming to Epcot

ToTBellHop

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This isn't Galaxy's Edge, though, and everything wasn't ready when they did that. The main attraction was still months away from an opening date and the ride they did have open, was still having issues. They absolutely needed experience in that instance.

Plus, that Millennium Falcon was just sitting there collecting dust when it could have been showing up on Twitter and Instagram all over the place still collecting dust like it does today, but with smiling people in front of it.

This isn't a whole new "land" and it's not a groundbreaking combination of new tech. It's a clone of an attraction that has successfully operated for over half a decade. Sure, there could be a loose wire somewhere or something but it's not like they can't cycle the ride for months empty with the occasional staff on board.

This isn't like most "new" attractions. They're not rushing to meet a deadline or making changes or working things out. All signs point to them being able to let you in to ride it right this very moment if they really wanted to.

Usually, there is a projected opening window and usually, they blow that original window and they're scrambling to get it open for the next one. This ain't that. They're intentionally sitting on a completed project.

At the moment, this is Walt Disney World's Black Widow.*

I know there's a lot of wishful thinking going on around here that people will have access before the date that Disney just announced and I guess they could offer previews or soft openings if they want to be nice or they believe there is a marketing up-side to doing it but this isn't a case where they have any real need to.

I wouldn't be shocked if it soft-opened a week or two early just to give the cast guest experience but I would not count on much more than that and instead be thoroughly delighted and surprised** if they did otherwise, at this point.



*for those who somehow aren't in the know, that would be the movie that was supposed to come out last year and has been in the can for almost 12 months until they can release it for optimum profit.

**okay, maybe I'm slightly overstating the feeling's I'd have...
I see Scarlett Johansson in my dreams every night and it won’t end until her film is released and she finally wins an Oscar.
 

ppete1975

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This isn't Galaxy's Edge, though, and everything wasn't ready when they did that. The main attraction was still months away from an opening date and the ride they did have open, was still having issues. They absolutely needed experience in that instance.

Plus, that Millennium Falcon was just sitting there collecting dust when it could have been showing up on Twitter and Instagram all over the place still collecting dust like it does today, but with smiling people in front of it.

This isn't a whole new "land" and it's not a groundbreaking combination of new tech. It's a clone of an attraction that has successfully operated for over half a decade. Sure, there could be a loose wire somewhere or something but it's not like they can't cycle the ride for months empty with the occasional staff on board.

This isn't like most "new" attractions. They're not rushing to meet a deadline or making changes or working things out. All signs point to them being able to let you in to ride it right this very moment if they really wanted to.

Usually, there is a projected opening window and usually, they blow that original window and they're scrambling to get it open for the next one. This ain't that. They're intentionally sitting on a completed project.

At the moment, this is Walt Disney World's Black Widow.*

I know there's a lot of wishful thinking going on around here that people will have access before the date that Disney just announced and I guess they could offer previews or soft openings if they want to be nice or they believe there is a marketing up-side to doing it but this isn't a case where they have any real need to.

I wouldn't be shocked if it soft-opened a week or two early just to give the cast guest experience but I would not count on much more than that and instead be thoroughly delighted and surprised** if they did otherwise, at this point.



*for those who somehow aren't in the know, that would be the movie that was supposed to come out last year and has been in the can for almost 12 months until they can release it for optimum profit.

**okay, maybe I'm slightly overstating the feeling's I'd have...
i hate to break it to you........
its prob going to be delayed again
 

Giss Neric

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It's been clear pretty that Universal has been taking Covid safety measures less seriously than Disney, so the drawbacks of opening a major attraction during the pandemic are significantly less for Universal.
I don't know about "less serious" as Florida in general has been open since last year. Is there really going to be consequences for one park being less serious than the other? Before, I would agree to this but now I feel like it's all for show and that Disney is just trying to avoid negative press from all the negative press they have been getting non-stop. On the other hand, Universal is just being unproblematic and being under the radar so.
 

techgeek

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To me, an October 1st date falls right in with the strategy of shelving Tron's construction schedule, slow walking GotG, being non-committal about Harmonious, and completely silent on a schedule for the PatF redo of Splash.

I think this is less about current Covid mitigations, or recovery, or even the 50th... and more about stretching out that new attraction pipeline as far as they can so there's some magic left to promote in 2022-23 and beyond. They can spend the entire summer hyping 'returning classics' as they slowly bring existing shows back on-line, there is no need for anything new to push summer "crowds". There is every need to sandbag for the drought in new attractions that's going to stretch out for at least the next 5 years.
 

Lil Copter Cap

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I don’t know the long term plan (does anyone), but with the major shake up of 2020 and 2021 both being “lost cause” years—pushing things to late 2021 and encouraging bookings into 2022+ sets the company up for maximum profits.

Yes, people book last minute getaways—but major international market guests are cut off right now. Generally speaking, people plan their vacations a year ahead of time. Right now, announcing an opening date sooner than the Fall isn’t beneficial. AP holders/locals and those able to book a last minute vacation would be the main consumer if they did.

Announce the opening in fall, see how the summer plays out with COVID-19 vaccinations and border restrictions, and profit knowing the maximum amount of guests will be coming down late 2021 into 2022. Disney makes more money with less financial commitments—Magical Express being one of them.
 

Surferboy567

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If Harm opens this year, Disney only really has two attractions that are going to open. Those being TRON and Guardians. I’d imagine they would announce new additions at next year’s D23 but that is far off. Not having a D23 and skipping a year may be a problem for them down the line.

They like to announce a new addition at D23 it opens by the next D23 and the cycle continues. Since it is looking like (at least I hope) TRON, and Guardians should be open sometime next year, once the new additions are announced at D23 we will be left with not much for a year or maybe more. Since given Disney’s construction speed, it takes them forever to complete any given project.

I count Play! and the Galactic Starcruiser as seperate categories.

EDIT: Sometimes, projects will take two D23’s to finish (Star Wars, Guardians, Rat, etc) but announcements and openings sometime line up with D23.
 

Horizons '83

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In the Parks
No
Even after being away from WDW during the pandemic, I now see no need to dedicate a full day to Epcot on my June trip. A new ride, even a clone, would've changed that.



Still a way better track record than WDW Pro.



That's a leap. Universal could easily put something in the now vacant Blue Man Group theater for 2022. It's also weird to say "Universal has nothing in the pipeline except the first new theme park in Central Florida in 22 years."
Isn’t epic universe on hold indefinitely?
 

SplashJacket

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I don't know about "less serious" as Florida in general has been open since last year. Is there really going to be consequences for one park being less serious than the other? Before, I would agree to this but now I feel like it's all for show and that Disney is just trying to avoid negative press from all the negative press they have been getting non-stop. On the other hand, Universal is just being unproblematic and being under the radar so.
No denying Florida has been doing questionable shenanigans throughout this whole crisis, but Disney has chosen to regulate themselves and is choosing to stick with it.

This summer is shaping up to be a flex period between pandemic and normalcy. Personally, I think this summer is a good time to take social distancing down a notch. I'm perfectly fine with masks remaining until 2022, they don't bother me at all.

The bottom line is everyone has a different definition of what they are comfortable with, but this definition is not constant. I haven't gone to the parks since this began and don't plan to go until after I'm fully vaccinated.

But regardless of whether or not Disney is holding themselves to a higher standard just for show, they're still doing it.
 

ToTBellHop

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”Soon” like, “your wife is having contractions” but not ”soon” like “your wife’s water broke and I can’t believe you don’t know that.”

Its a good time to start painting the nursery with rats and baguettes.
Throw out your paint. It was all a dream. She’s not even pregnant.

You‘re not even married.

But never forget the dream.

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