News Remy's Ratatouille Adventure coming to Epcot

[wdisney9000]

@tigerlight , who hurt you? Your pain runs deep.

 

[lazyboy97o]

@tigerlight , who hurt you? Your pain runs deep.

He is a former Cast Member and Annual Passholder. We just don’t understand the sort of privileged information afforded to one in such a unique position.

 

[FigmentForver96]

He is a former Cast Member and Annual Passholder. We just don’t understand the sort of privileged information afforded to one in such a unique position.

God I knew it. How could we be so stupid

 

[wdisney9000]

He is a former Cast Member and Annual Passholder. We just don’t understand the sort of privileged information afforded to one in such a unique position.

I have an AP, and let me tell you, the information in the Mickey Monitor is priceless and should be guarded as if it were an Infinity Stone. Couple that with the wisdom of former CM knowledge and you have unbridled power!!!!

 

[rreading]

Are your really so gullible as to believe that? If one of the "insiders" told you the sky is purple and the world is flat would you believe that, too?

Company publicly stated Everest was $100M. It is three separate structures built from ground up, 20 stories high, on several acres of land. It is enormous amounts of themed buildings, rocks, and everything else.

You really think a paint job, extremely minor effects, moving a ride, etc., cost $100M?

However, letting rumors fly that they spent that much was good for drumming up interest.... I mean heck who doesn't want to see the results of a $100M renovation? And yes, I know people thought it was crappy, but Disney execs/marketers think everything they do is exceptional... there's almost never a worry about people not loving it.

Dude - you sound like you know your stuff and I would be inclined to agree with what you are saying...but if you are saying that the information is out there then bring it to us and show us that the knowledge here is incorrect. Otherwise, you are just being a troll simply to be truculent, in which case please just be quiet.

 

[MisterPenguin]

So when someone challenges you, you ridicule and personally attack them? Why not just cite some actual evidence?

And you've been told several times that they're not going to give you that evidence you want. Yet, you keep demanding it. So, who's on the attack here?

 

[MisterPenguin]

I’ll take that as a compliment, thanks.

This all started because someone said a cloned ride in an unthemed warehouse, 20 year old ride system, remanufactured sets and screens, and some very limited highly themed areas is going to cost more than Everest..... and people actually believe that nonsense.

When I call BS the “south sayers” get insecure and start lobbing ridicule and insults. Is this how we should behave?

Calling them soothsayers is insulting, so, glass house and all. So, yeah, you are attacking people. We've told you they have sources. They've seen financials. They've seen blueprints. They talk with the imagineers in charge of the project. If you don't want to believe it, say, "I don't believe it" and walk away. Stop pestering them with demands to show evidence even when they tell you they won't. You are keeping this going. And for what purpose after your first "I don't believe it"?

 

[lazyboy97o]

So when someone challenges you, you ridicule and personally attack them? Why not just cite some actual evidence?

You’ve been shown evidence in the past and denied its validity. No point in bothering.

 

[wdisney9000]

So when someone challenges you, you ridicule and personally attack them? Why not just cite some actual evidence?

Are you not a former CM? Do you not currently have an active Annual Pass? If these are true, then how is it an attack?

 

[HauntedPirate]

I think it's really about whether you see "magic" in the ride system. Some do, some don't.

True. The ride system is excellent. If it hadn't causes my wife to get motion sick, we probably would have ridden a few more times to get a better feel for it overall. It just felt like it was lacking ... something. I don't know what, still haven't been able to put my finger on it exactly.

Either way, having experienced Rat in Paris, this is going to be very popular and will have long lines once it opens in Epcot.

 

[IMDREW]

Not trying to bring this discussion up again, but Rat definitely is not an E-ticket attraction. If Rat is an E, what on earth is FOP and ROR?!

 

[Goofyque']

Oh right. Forgot this was the Ratatouille thread. Still looking forward to it. Already have the t-shirts made. BTW, LOVED Pooh's Honey Hunt. No reason for me to think I won't love this, too.. Also love Everest, just to stay on topic, whatever that may be.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Not trying to bring this discussion up again, but Rat definitely is not an E-ticket attraction. If Rat is an E, what on earth is FOP and ROR?!

To the imagineers, it is. It was bleeding edge tech when it made to use LPS vehicles. To wit...

For Disney Imagineers, the "ticket tiers" are based on cost to develop and implement and the complexity of the ride and queue and overall theming.

For Disney guests, the "ticket tiers" are based on how fun and popular it is.

For Disney Corporation, the old use of "ticket tiers" was a combination of both: rides that cost more to make and run were higher priced to ride, and thus, a higher ticket tier, but, at the same time, they used the ticket tiers partly as crowd control as the lowered the tier of less popular rides (in order to entice more people to ride them) and raised the tiers of rides with really long lines (in order to drive crowds away).

See here for a discussion of tiers... https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/a-e-ticket-attractions.895286/#post-8204650

 

[lazyboy97o]

To the imagineers, it is. It was bleeding edge tech when it made to use LPS vehicles. To wit...

It was not “bleeding edge” technology. The LPS system debuted in 2000 with Pooh’s Hunny Hunt, 14 years before Ratatouille opened. Even the issue of synchronizing 3D projections with moving vehicles was tackled by the Amazing Adventures of Spider-Man in 1999.

 

[jaxonp]

By that logic then classics such as Splash and Pirates aren't E-tickets either. lol

 

[ToTBellHop]

Disney internally calls Rat an E. Obviously not all guests give it rave reviews, but it will be a headliner for the park nonetheless. The fact that Disney can spend the kind of money I’m suggesting they are spending here for guests to suggest it’s on par with Mermaid or Peter Pan should be quite concerning to them. It was chosen because it was the headliner that could open close in time to Galaxy’s Edge at the other end of the Skyliner.

 

[jaxonp]

Do people consider Mermaid a D?

Rat>Mermaid

 

[Missing20K]

According to who?

According to whom?

I think it's really about whether you see "magic" in the ride system. Some do, some don't.

I think it's about whether you see the edges of the screen and the dirty floor. Both issues could have been solved, the fact they weren't knocks it down to a D for me.

I don't claim to have insider info, but based upon my fairly deep knowledge of what Disney rides typically cost, I'm guess-estimating this one is in the $50M range... Now, $50,000,000 is still a staggering sum, but less than half of what Everest cost to build back in 2005...

No insider info, but still have a fairly deep knowledge of Disney ride costs? Ok.

Another fun fact: Disney execs LOVE it when people exaggerate the budgets.

Source?

A guess: Some of the "insiders" on here are purposefully fed "confidential" false information in order to spread it around and create buzz.

Source?

Virtually none of those costs are going into this clone of the ride.... and construction costs in Florida are much much lower than suburban Paris.

Source? None? Have you seen the construction documents for each build? Is there no site work to be done at WDW? Are they building a courtyard? Does Central Florida have the same water table as Marne La Valle?

Just take some anonymous person's word for it because they are "reliable" and "eloquent."

The biggest insider here is far from anonymous.

but Disney execs/marketers think everything they do is exceptional... there's almost never a worry about people not loving it.

Source?

I'll wait.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Do people consider Mermaid a D?

Rat>Mermaid

I would compare Rat to TSM, a D. I think Rat is more ambitious. Just me though.

 

[marni1971]

According to who?

It’s costing far more than Everest to build.