News Reflections of Earth confirmed to be replaced by Harmonious

TheEPCOTHistorian

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Whatever the guest response is to Harmonius, its better than it was for EF.
The rest may be true, but this isn't entirely correct. I have the survey responses from the questionnaire they sent out somewhere, let me find them. EF outperformed in every area except with children, but didn't beat IROE.
 

ToTBellHop

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The rest may be true, but this isn't entirely correct. I have the survey responses from the questionnaire they sent out somewhere, let me find them. EF outperformed in every area except with children, but didn't beat IROE.
Those aren’t Disney surveys. Disney’s sampling is far larger and more accurate but results are not share widely and certainly not here.
 

Vinnie Mac

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Whether or not it proves any theory, tonight's Harmonious was done entirely with Epcot Forever pyro. 100%, completely, for the second night in a row.
Nick, I feel like this is a good time to remind you or anyone really that supply chain issues are very much so still a thing. This is the second period of time we've seen HamonioUS in this "B mode" state before. Back in December, HarmonioUS ran this way for a good chunk of month. So expect to see HarmonioUS in this state for a couple of weeks.

But none of this signifies a return for Epcot Forever or at least not anytime soon. If that was the case there would have been rumors, solid rumors about it already. I liked EF too, but I'm not gonna abandon logical thought in hopes for its return.
 
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Vinnie Mac

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Whether or not it proves any theory, tonight's Harmonious was done entirely with Epcot Forever pyro. 100%, completely, for the second night in a row.
And like previously stated by someone else, HarmonioUS wouldn't need to stop running for an upgrade or change in the show.

The reason why Epcot Forever even existed is because Disney needed the time to develop the HarmonioUS infrastructure (as to why they couldn't just keep Illuminations until the barges moved out is a question I've always had but that's a different conversation). Disney is way beyond that stage. The show is literally in operation at this point. Unless a MAJOR change in the show is added (like a change in the actual infrastructure), the show can run as normal. Any changes or upgrades made can be tested overnight and seemingly already have been in recent times.
 

bcoachable

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And like previously stated by someone else, HarmonioUS wouldn't need to stop running for an upgrade or change in the show.

The reason why Epcot Forever even existed is because Disney needed the time to develop the HarmonioUS infrastructure (as to why they couldn't just keep Illuminations until the barges moved out is a question I've always had but that's a different conversation). Disney is way beyond that stage. The show is literally in operation at this point. Unless a MAJOR change in the show is added (like a change in the actual infrastructure), the show can run as normal. Any changes or upgrades made can be tested overnight and seemingly already have been in recent times.
My guess is it’s kinda like when the dentist puts that pre novocain cream on your gums before they come back in with the long needle…
 

dovetail65

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We saw Harmonious from Crown for the fireworks dinner a couple weeks ago and loved it. I don't get all the hate other than people just not liking change.

Last 2 minutes from our vantage point at our Dinner table and live was way better than this Video:


The fireworks shooting out right in line with our table maybe 15 feet out was pretty darn cool you might see that in the video if you look close at the bottom, it was just awesome. You can hear the couple and their kid at the next table, they seemed to like it too and you can hear me tell my wife, baby I love you so much. If someone told me of those fireworkswere rehashed from another show my response would be so what, it didn't take anything away from the look in my wife's eyes(she loves fireworks like a ten year old).

We have been here since Feb 1, we were to go home tomorrow, nope. I called all my clients and we are staying until April1st!
WDW may not be perfect, but we are having the time of our lives and gone to the parks 21 times since Feb 1.

This was one of the best nights my wife and I have had in years. It may sound sappy but in that moment during the finale we knew why we stayed together for 25 years. Just go to WDW have fun and forget about the less than perfect stuff., big deal if you think the other show was better, it doesn't matter, you can still have a great time. We had an even better moment at MK a few days before when I took my wife bent her back and kissed her like I haven't, well in 25 years! And just as that happened Tinker bell flew overhead at that precise time at the MK Fireworks finale. What a moment! My wife says what got into you, you curled my toes!

So for all that is wrong with the fireworks or the parks the Magic is 100% still here if you let it!
 
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bcoachable

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We saw Harmonious from Crown for the fireworks dinner a couple weeks ago and loved it. I don't get all the hate other than people just not liking change.

Last 2 minutes from our vantage point at our Dinner table and live was way better than this Video:


The fireworks shooting out right in line with our table maybe 15 feet out was pretty darn cool you might see that in the video if you look close at the bottom, it was just awesome. You can hear the couple and their kid at the next table, they seemed to like it too and you can hear me tell my wife, baby I love you so much. If someone told me of those fireworkswere rehashed from another show my response would be so what, it didn't take anything away from the look in my wife's eyes(she loves fireworks like a ten year old).

We have been here since Feb 1, we were to go home tomorrow, nope. I called all my clients and we are staying until April1st!
WDW may not be perfect, but we are having the time of our lives and gone to the parks 21 times since Feb 1.

This was one of the best nights my wife and I have had in years. It may sound sappy but in that moment during the finale we knew why we stayed together for 25 years. Just go to WDW have fun and forget about the less than perfect stuff., big deal if you think the other show was better, it doesn't matter, you can still have a great time. We had an even better moment at MK a few days before when I took my wife bent her back and kissed her like I haven't, well in 25 years! And just as that happened Tinker bell flew overhead at that precise time at the MK Fireworks finale. What a moment! My wife says what got into you, you curled my toes!

So for all that is wrong with the fireworks or the parks the Magic is 100% still here if you let it!
What a great attitude, Sir! Perfectly stated “life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you react to it” mantra!
 

Vinnie Mac

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We saw Harmonious from Crown for the fireworks dinner a couple weeks ago and loved it. I don't get all the hate other than people just not liking change.

Last 2 minutes from our vantage point at our Dinner table and live was way better than this Video:


The fireworks shooting out right in line with our table maybe 15 feet out was pretty darn cool you might see that in the video if you look close at the bottom, it was just awesome. You can hear the couple and their kid at the next table, they seemed to like it too and you can hear me tell my wife, baby I love you so much. If someone told me of those fireworkswere rehashed from another show my response would be so what, it didn't take anything away from the look in my wife's eyes(she loves fireworks like a ten year old).

We have been here since Feb 1, we were to go home tomorrow, nope. I called all my clients and we are staying until April1st!
WDW may not be perfect, but we are having the time of our lives and gone to the parks 21 times since Feb 1.

This was one of the best nights my wife and I have had in years. It may sound sappy but in that moment during the finale we knew why we stayed together for 25 years. Just go to WDW have fun and forget about the less than perfect stuff., big deal if you think the other show was better, it doesn't matter, you can still have a great time. We had an even better moment at MK a few days before when I took my wife bent her back and kissed her like I haven't, well in 25 years! And just as that happened Tinker bell flew overhead at that precise time at the MK Fireworks finale. What a moment! My wife says what got into you, you curled my toes!
I didn't think I would tear up from a message in this thread specifically but this was such a beautiful thing to read. I'm really glad y'all enjoyed yourselves!
 

Vinnie Mac

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I was looking for a stream last night to see the changes and found this one, it's in 4k and he does a good job and the I liked the EF fireworks for a change.
it starts at the 2 hour 45 minute mark.

Overall not a big fan of the EF fireworks in this show but I will say, a couple of the swaps looked pretty good. The Coco scene looked great still and the little sideways shells early in the India section is pretty good too.
 

Vinnie Mac

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This reads like current marketing is failing for the show.
Anyways.
@marni1971 and @Cliff will record the show and put everyone else to shame. Well, if they feel like putting effort into Harmonious.
I'd understand if they don't because I can't blame them.
I mean, you folks hated Enchantment but Cliff still did his magic with that show. Not sure why your opinions would stop him now.
 

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