EPCOT Reflections of Earth confirmed to be replaced by Harmonious

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
The AP issue is not part of the topic of this thread... however, to quote Tía Pepa: BUT!...

The last quarterly report showed spending of individual guests has gone up. As it has quarter after quarter.

Disney is 100% ok with guests opting to get APs for Sea World and Universal, as long as it leaves behind a lessened crowd that's willing to spend a whole lot more. It keeps profits climbing and deals with overcrowding.

Disney isn't weeping over people switching their APs to other parks.

They *do* however, worry about *branding.* So, bringing this back on topic, Disney doesn't want a nighttime spectacular to fade in popularity, because:
  1. It hurts the brand. And Disney squeezes money out of people due to the weight of the brand.
  2. And a nighttime spectacular fading in popularity hurts the profits of all those EPCOT restaurants, and so, their owners will be complaining loudly.
  3. And an EPCOT nighttime spectacular is supposed to keep MK's nighttime spectacular from being overcrowded.
So, if Harmonious is indeed losing people, WDW will have to *something*. But it's not because of loss of APers switching their APs to other parks.
 

Amused to Death

Well-Known Member
It was a challenge to find an area this uncrowded during IROE or Epcot Forever.

And you still can't see a damned thing. Had they asked for my opinion, I would have skipped the stupid taco shell projections of Disney characters and installed a Bellagio-style fountain show that circled the entire lagoon. No worries about where to stand during the show, and no worries about unsightly show equipment during the rest of the day. And, no, I don't mean World of Color, I mean Bellagio. I have no need to see a fuzzy rendering of Pocahontas on a blowing-in-the-wind water screen.
 

ImperfectPixie

Well-Known Member
And you still can't see a damned thing. Had they asked for my opinion, I would have skipped the stupid taco shell projections of Disney characters and installed a Bellagio-style fountain show that circled the entire lagoon. No worries about where to stand during the show, and no worries about unsightly show equipment during the rest of the day. And, no, I don't mean World of Color, I mean Bellagio. I have no need to see a fuzzy rendering of Pocahontas on a blowing-in-the-wind water screen.
I'm consistently perplexed why anyone likes water screens.
 

Amused to Death

Well-Known Member
Honestly, I'd much rather they just use water and lights.

Bellagio.jpg


No animated characters were harmed in the making of this nighttime spectacular.
 

TTA94

Well-Known Member
Just my own opinion but one of the many faults of Harmonious is its to MK ish and many likely choose to go to Epcot to get away from the MK feel and all the IP and music.

Not saying this would be a good idea at all and definitely not for Epcot fans, but as far as the average guests, who WDW has and always will cater to, maybe a more upbeat nighttime show would be of more interest? Typically the average guests love dance parties lol and Epcot is quite popular on NYE with the dance parties around the park.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
Just my own opinion but one of the many faults of Harmonious is its to MK ish and many likely choose to go to Epcot to get away from the MK feel and all the IP and music.

Not saying this would be a good idea at all and definitely not for Epcot fans, but as far as the average guests, who WDW has and always will cater to, maybe a more upbeat nighttime show would be of more interest? Typically the average guests love dance parties lol and Epcot is quite popular on NYE with the dance parties around the park.

"Everyone loves Disney music! - Bob Chapek
 

Inspired Figment

Well-Known Member
So... is it too late to ask for Epcot Forever back? Use We Go On instead of Whole New World, put pavilion logos on the barges. Done.
Not a bad idea.. maybe have Dreamfinder & Figment host it also.. ala Jiminy for Wishes.
One thing I will say thought is the show could have some more World Showcase representation.
The barges though.. those gotta go.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
I’m not convinced this is an accurate statement.
Disney just squeezed a 40% increase from the average park-goer leading to a record breaking revenue take for a quarter. All this while clamping down on AP sales, not have international guests, and limiting park capacity due to staffing shortages.

Maybe Disney isn't "happy." Maybe they're just crying all the way to the bank.
 

Vinnie Mac

Well-Known Member
And you still can't see a damned thing. Had they asked for my opinion, I would have skipped the stupid taco shell projections of Disney characters and installed a Bellagio-style fountain show that circled the entire lagoon. No worries about where to stand during the show, and no worries about unsightly show equipment during the rest of the day. And, no, I don't mean World of Color, I mean Bellagio. I have no need to see a fuzzy rendering of Pocahontas on a blowing-in-the-wind water screen.
I love it when people think they have a better idea for something and then it just ends up sounding even worse.
 

SkiDude02

New Member
And you still can't see a damned thing. Had they asked for my opinion, I would have skipped the stupid taco shell projections of Disney characters and installed a Bellagio-style fountain show that circled the entire lagoon. No worries about where to stand during the show, and no worries about unsightly show equipment during the rest of the day. And, no, I don't mean World of Color, I mean Bellagio. I have no need to see a fuzzy rendering of Pocahontas on a blowing-in-the-wind water screen.
The Bellagio fountain show was inspired by the original Fountain of Nations show that was in Future World when EPCOT was first opened (and demolished with the redesign of the front of the park).
 

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