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News Reflections of Earth confirmed to be replaced by Harmonious

Sue_Vongello

Well-Known Member
I doubt they are worried about the guest satisfaction surveys for this. Why should they? The surveys for this show will probably be good or very good (because “kewl Disney IP and music!!!”) but two practical things we should keep in mind and Disney should keep in mind (but won’t):

1. Their guest satisfaction surveys aren’t written in a way to even gain honest feedback. The questions are like “Do you like exciting new attractions with amazing technology? Answer: yes!” See? They will love the new show! It’s new AND it has amazing technology!

2. The survey of Harmonious will be focused entirely on specific questions about the show - they will not get any feedback on the impact the show elements have on sight lines or non-show time periods. They won’t even ask general questions about the show and most certainly not open ended ones.

So the surveys will be very good or great and they will get to PR that news all over the place but of course it won’t be how most people actually feel.
 

Touchdown

Well-Known Member
I doubt they are worried about the guest satisfaction surveys for this. Why should they? The surveys for this show will probably be good or very good (because “kewl Disney IP and music!!!”) but two practical things we should keep in mind and Disney should keep in mind (but won’t):

1. Their guest satisfaction surveys aren’t written in a way to even gain honest feedback. The questions are like “Do you like exciting new attractions with amazing technology? Answer: yes!” See? They will love the new show! It’s new AND it has amazing technology!

2. The survey of Harmonious will be focused entirely on specific questions about the show - they will not get any feedback on the impact the show elements have on sight lines or non-show time periods. They won’t even ask general questions about the show and most certainly not open ended ones.

So the surveys will be very good or great and they will get to PR that news all over the place but of course it won’t be how most people actually feel.
Not always, I remember filling out a WOC Celebrate survey after it floped. The questions were very direct and asked me why I liked/disliked the show.
 

Lands of Wonder

Well-Known Member
Back in 1964 they built a permanent structure for the New York Worlds Fair to this day with neglect it still stands, maybe Epcot should have made something more like this for a permanent structure. You can also have a 370 display around the lagoon.
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doctornick

Well-Known Member
Was everything really so impressed by the “before” World Showcase views? I can’t remember ever sitting back and thinking, “wow, what a view”, and I’ve leaned against those rails and looked over the lagoon many a time.

I'm partially with you on this. I think the "it blocks views across the lagoon" complain to me is kinda meh. I never really thought it was important to see the pavilions across the way and never have spent time doing such.

My bigger issue is the ugliness of the stuff there (and I doubt the fountains will help much). If they had put a large tree filled island that was pretty in the middle and it blocked the views, I'd be cool with it.
 

GimpYancIent

Well-Known Member
I'm partially with you on this. I think the "it blocks views across the lagoon" complain to me is kinda meh. I never really thought it was important to see the pavilions across the way and never have spent time doing such.

My bigger issue is the ugliness of the stuff there (and I doubt the fountains will help much). If they had put a large tree filled island that was pretty in the middle and it blocked the views, I'd be cool with it.
The oversized Steam Punk sci fi looking mass is a bit overwhelming and, yea UGLY. Fountains? It will then be an oversized Steam Punk sci fi looking mass with water squirting out of it. It will need to be one hell of a show to off set its detractors.
 
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yensidtlaw1969

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
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I'm partially with you on this. I think the "it blocks views across the lagoon" complain to me is kinda meh. I never really thought it was important to see the pavilions across the way and never have spent time doing such.

My bigger issue is the ugliness of the stuff there (and I doubt the fountains will help much). If they had put a large tree filled island that was pretty in the middle and it blocked the views, I'd be cool with it.
How far back are you thinking?

Disney has spent a good part of the last 15 years littering the waterline with restaurants that block the views across the lagoon (or privatize them for guests paying an upcharge to watch the Fireworks) - for the first 20+ years it was plain to even the casual EPCOT guest that the views of the Pavilions across the lagoon were curated and considered, and worth taking in.
 

marni1971

WDW History nut
Premium Member
I'm partially with you on this. I think the "it blocks views across the lagoon" complain to me is kinda meh. I never really thought it was important to see the pavilions across the way and never have spent time doing such..
You should have done. The design intent alone was stunning (although more recent clutter made somewhat of a mess)

Like a lot of good theme park design, the more you look the more you see.
 
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Movielover

Well-Known Member
The oversized Steam Punk sci fi looking mass is a bit overwhelming and, yea UGLY. Fountains? It will then be an oversized Steam Punk sci fi looking mass with water squirting out of it. It will need to be one hell of a show to off set its detractors.

That's a insult to Steampunk. Steampunk is specifically designed to still be aesthetically pleasing while looking busy or cluttered. The Mistake on the Lake is just a bunch of exposed mechanical pipes, not designed to be seen, but put on display in full view.

I would take a Steampunk version over what we have because at least it would indicate some form of aesthetic design went into these monstrosities.
 
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George

Liker of Things
Premium Member
For years I’ve been saying that giant industrial looking metal structures festooned on the lagoon would bring joy out the wazoon!
Any updates on the rest of the lagoon construction that we can’t see? Think pavilion you need swim trunks to visit (Marvel tie in, baby! The wait for Namor is over!).
 

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