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News Reflections of Earth confirmed to be replaced by Harmonious

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
This stuff is big, ugly and destroys the views but I am hoping the show is so good we can look past it during the day.... Oh who am I kidding.... never mind 🙁.

I have to say, it was hard for me to make out the pictures on the old globe most of the time but the entire show was so good I did not mind it. These new screens are so large, I suspect there will be no problem.
 

Crazydisneyfanluke

Well-Known Member
Sure but I’m not the one bitter about a “lost Epcot” or “mistake on the lake”

If this show impresses than to me it’s worth it. Illuminations barges albeit didn’t sit out all day but those weren’t exactly pretty either.

IMO some of you need to stop living in the Epcot past. That Epcot has been gone for decades at this point. Maybe because I never saw it I don’t have the attachment that many of you do but Epcot needs the work desperately. I was huge fan of illuminations but even that had run its course.
It's not about Epcots pasts. It's the fact that the theming and immersion standards of disney's past have gone down the drain.

When Tower of Terror was built, it was themed to blend into Morroco from the Mexican pavilion.

Can you see the ride building for POTC or Splash from inside the park?

Space Mountain was designed to look good from all angles.

Now we get this and Big box rides like Guardians, soarin, rat, tron.

Standards have been lowered.
 
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TrainChasers

Well-Known Member
I have to say, it was hard for me to make out the pictures on the old globe most of the time but the entire show was so good I did not mind it.
I could see steam locomotive 611 plenty clearly on that old globe! (There were a few times right before maintenance when it looked pretty bad though.)
 

Rteetz

Premium Member
It's not about Epcots pasts. It's the fact that the theming and immersion standards of disney's past have gone down the drain.

When Tower of Terror was built, it was themed to blend into Morroco from the Mexican pavilion.

Can you see the ride building for Porch or Splash from inside the park?

Space Mountain was designed to look good from all angles.

Now we get this and Big box rides like Guardians, soarin, rat, tron.

Standards have been lowered.
I again don’t disagree. I certainly don’t think guardians really should be in Epcot at all but again not for this thread.
 

mnelson3

Well-Known Member
I think everything has been seen one way or another.

Do you know if they are doing anything outside of the lagoon for Harm.? Like updating the pavilion outline lighting? In the Epcot Experience it did show the pavilion lighting to have a wave or twinkle effect.
 

UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
It doesn't help the fact that his Instagram posts bring up themes, research, and the meanings behind why X is X and Y is Y. He'll dive into history as well. Then you have the definitely not PR, PR post that was definitely not approved by some higher up that is definitely 100% written by him. He could easily just not have social media instead of trying to shill. Joe Rohde's posts were always great reads and never felt like some PR crap.

I understand there's more to this then him and he could've been pushing in the opposite direction but is being forced to do Bobs plan. Point is, he took the project on so it's his face on the project. I don't feel bad for the blame he receives. I also recall a trusted source on here saying he's basically Bobs puppet and that was the reason why he was elevated to this position (obviously I can't verify so this one isn't weighing much in this conversation).

This has nothing to do with "BuT EpCoT bEfOrE tHe 90s WaS bEtTeR", it's Disneys own standards. I can go to nearly any other park that has minimal themes, boxes, and track everywhere. Disney showed you can have things hidden in plain sight. To accept this is and say "well Epcot needed a new show at any cost" is hilarious.

On the fountains: We know Disneys history (US parks) with maintaining things a few years after it debuts. I give the fountains 5 years tops before they stop fixing them. I'd be glad to be wrong though.

I wasn't saying he doesn't deserve part of the blame -- my point was that this is a more widespread problem than just one person. It's not like if he was gone everything would suddenly be great at Disney again.
 

UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
What’s worse?
Harmonious barges? Or the pink birthday castle?

The barges. I wasn't a big fan of the birthday castle, but there was some whimsy involved and it wasn't just technical equipment on display.

More importantly, the birthday castle was a temporary thing. Those barges are probably going to be out there for a decade or longer with the amount of money they've spent doing this.
 

pxmedia

New Member
I know it's too late, but I do hope Disney reads these forums and the comments about this. How did something like this get "green-lit"? As a disclaimer, I loved Illuminations. But how did they think that blocking the views of World Showcase all-day would be a good thing? And to have the Stargate barge off-centered is terrible. Simply terrible.
 

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