peter11435
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Again.. your posting history.
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News Reflections – A Disney Lakeside Lodge (Project 89 - Development near Fort Wilderness)
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Sirwalterraleigh
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I agree...and I see no angle that would represent an “improvement”
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Not you
...though I say what I will always say: tone is irrelevant. Everyone handles things differently. Which is important because groupthink is destructive.
But how it’s said doesn’t discount what is said...if you use...
...wait for it....
LOGIC in you’re analysis.
CaptainAmerica
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His opinion is based on facts that people here are denying. You can disagree with all of his opinions, but that doesn't change the truthfulness of his facts.
Sirwalterraleigh
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peter11435
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Not everything he posts is fact. This thread alone has many examples of him posting his opinions as if they are fact.
CaptainAmerica
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"Joe Rohde blows budgets to hell" is a fact.
"Joe Rohde blowing budgets to hell is bad for Walt Disney Parks & Resorts" is an opinion.
peter11435
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“Disney’s Riviera Resort will not have its own amenities and guests will need to visit OPR” is a lie.
Bocabear
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They really do not look even remotely similar to the hotel design...one angled porte cochere does not make this pedestrian contemporary hotel look anything like Frank Lloyd Wright architecture...Same here. It is not like anything he has done looks remotely similar to this design.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
It's one piece of poorly-rendered low-resolution computer-generated concept art.
FerretAfros
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Let the record state that Disney has already done Frank Lloyd Wright in the parks, and made the reference much clearer than whatever this 2010s-bland concept art is trying to be.
The façade of the main restrooms in DCA's Hollywood Pictures Backlot is lifted from Frank's Freeman House in Hollywood. The house was built in the textile block style following the Mayan Revival aesthetic of his Imperial Hotel in Tokyo. It was designed following the first fire at Taliesin, when he got spooked into trying to make all of his buildings fireproof by eschewing wood in favor of concrete. The restroom has been at DCA since the park opened, but is often overlooked due to the hulking Disney Junior and Animation Buildings flanking either side.
Of course, the structure is a façade only, and the hallway to the restrooms becomes utilitarian immediately upon turning the corner and almost feels like it's backstage, followed by clean-but-charmless facilities in the restrooms themselves.
And to think that people were so upset about Rapunzel getting an elaborate restroom at MK. He's Frank Lloyd &#$%ing Wright, and they couldn't even finish the hallway!
The façade of the main restrooms in DCA's Hollywood Pictures Backlot is lifted from Frank's Freeman House in Hollywood. The house was built in the textile block style following the Mayan Revival aesthetic of his Imperial Hotel in Tokyo. It was designed following the first fire at Taliesin, when he got spooked into trying to make all of his buildings fireproof by eschewing wood in favor of concrete. The restroom has been at DCA since the park opened, but is often overlooked due to the hulking Disney Junior and Animation Buildings flanking either side.
Of course, the structure is a façade only, and the hallway to the restrooms becomes utilitarian immediately upon turning the corner and almost feels like it's backstage, followed by clean-but-charmless facilities in the restrooms themselves.
And to think that people were so upset about Rapunzel getting an elaborate restroom at MK. He's Frank Lloyd &#$%ing Wright, and they couldn't even finish the hallway!
peter11435
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You said that guests would have to visit OPR to get their Mickey waffles. You were pretty clearly saying the resort would not have a quick service venue.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
I said I think it will playout that way and I believe that is the intent all
Along. Disney didn’t redo all the food randomly at Caribbean to serve 384 FEWER rooms...they don’t don’t do that.
It was to allow use from the DVC AND to charge more for the Caribbean rooms. That’s an opinion that just happens to make 100% sense. *disclaimer*
In truth...we don’t know exactly what they’re putting in the DVC, do we??
I’ll read the official release if the food details have been released. I like to learn
peter11435
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Disney redid the food at CBR because they had to make room for the relocated custom house services and because the facility was in dire need.
Same reason they redid 2 of the 4 all star resort food courts.
Yes they will charge more for the CBR now. And yes they will allow DVC to use the new venues just like anyone can use nearly any venue at WDW.
But... Riviera will still have its own dining venues. Some of us do know what will be included.
Sirwalterraleigh
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ABQ
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I'll wait for Riviera to be completed, at least on the exterior, but as of late, their concept art work and their finished products have been rather close in appearance, so I have trouble assuming that the finished product shown in this project's art work will look much different than what we see now. Though the recent completed project that we have to refer to are mostly restaurant work like that at the Yacht Club or the Flying Fish or Sebastian's. Again, Riviera will be rather telling.
lazyboy97o
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It is a Lumion rendering in all likelihood generated from the project’s Revit model, in other words it’s blueprints.
CaptainAmerica
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That's sort of my point. Those tools are trash at conveying texture. They probably had three different options for "stone," and none of them were particularly great.
lazyboy97o
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Lumion has lots of options that are highly customizable.
