News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[Brian]

He was polling in the mid 30s. He's down to 21%. I suspect he will continue to fade and another trump alternative will emerge from the current field. As I said, Trump was polling at < 1% at this time in 2015.

There's a lot of "sympathy votes" for Trump of late in light of his recent legal situation in Manhattan. Many were likely DeSantis supporters.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I get the jokes on attorneys, but let's be real, attorneys don't celebrate this nonsense, just like oncologists don't celebrate more cancer.

Not sure the word “celebrate” is in good use here. Attorneys take cases, unless they are doing it for free, or get paid only if they win, they get paid win or lose.

For sure these attorneys are getting paid win or lose.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I think that's shortsighted of him. The establishment/traditional conservative types still make up a sizeable minority of the GOP - and DeSantis needs that vote.

He doesn't need that vote while it's a field of 10 because those people are always going to be more anti-Trump than pro-DeSantis.

Phase 1: Get through the early debates as the clear #2. This is about name ID more than anything else. It's "no press is bad press" time.

Phase 2: Other non-Trump candidates drop out after failing to crack double-digit support in the early primaries.

Phase 3: Consolidate normieCon and #NeverTrump support and pray that it's bigger than 50%.

Phase 4: Absorb incoming fire from Trump, which will have the benefit of making DeSantis appear reasonable by comparison in preparation for a pivot in the General.

Phase 5: Pray that Trump doesn't go nuclear with a third party campaign.

 

[JusticeDisney]

The governor has already addressed this, claiming to not be aware of the Reedy Creek Improvement District.

Yeah, ok.

 

[JusticeDisney]

Is your argument that all legislative action taken in a governor's second term is somehow illegitimate?

Not everything is a Day 1 priority.

Yeah, really solid point. I mean, you’re right, this buffoon was intending all along on getting rid of that totally unjust special district. It was just pure coincidence that he finally got around to doing it at the precise moment that Disney spoke out against legislation. It just simply wasn’t a Day 1 priority.

 

[JusticeDisney]

There are 1,844 special districts in Florida. I guarantee you that there isn't a single person on the planet that is aware of every single one of them.

Now you are comparing Disney’s special district to the rest of them?! Oh wow, you’re starting to make yourself look a bit foolish. No offense.

 

[Smiley/OCD]

I know, that's why I hate it. Unless you're super rural, counties are way too big to effectively manage schools. I strongly favor municipal control of education so that administrators are directly accountable to parents.

NO, that’s what we have in NJ there are 599 districts, each with its own superintendent, BOE, separate purchasing (books,etc)…THATS the main reason we have the highest property taxes in the state…EVERY town in the state is its own little fiefdom…I’ll take county SD ANYTIME

 

[LAKid53]

He doesn't need that vote while it's a field of 10 because those people are always going to be more anti-Trump than pro-DeSantis.

Phase 1: Get through the early debates as the clear #2. This is about name ID more than anything else. It's "no press is bad press" time.

Phase 2: Other non-Trump candidates drop out after failing to crack double-digit support in the early primaries.

Phase 3: Consolidate normieCon and #NeverTrump support and pray that it's bigger than 50%.

Phase 4: Absorb incoming fire from Trump, which will have the benefit of making DeSantis appear reasonable by comparison in preparation for a pivot in the General.

Phase 5: Pray that Trump doesn't go nuclear with a third party campaign.

The GOP field in 2024 will not be as large as 2016. Neither Haley or other potential candidates have a war chest comparable to DeSantis or Trump.

 

[JusticeDisney]

Correct.

The reason matters, the timing doesn't.

If the action was retaliatory, it was retaliatory regardless of when it took place relative to Disney's comments on the Parental Rights bill, and regardless of the timing in the governor's term.

If a brand new governor of Texas came in and said "I'm going to push for legislation on Day 1 to screw Tesla for something Elon Musk said in 1997," that's just as bad as what DeSantis did here.

Newsflash for you, timing goes hand and hand with reason. It’s as if you’ve never even heard of the concept of circumstantial evidence. Wait, you probably haven’t.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I think DVC dues overall pay close to 25% of RCID taxes collected. So maybe small per owner but as a group a significant percentage.

Maybe…but to the individual? You flush that much spare change down the toilet each year

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

So let me get this one straight: we’ve strayed into “2024 GOP primary candidate war chests”??

…umm…the history of Barnum and Bailey next?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

FL law - that one who seeks a federal, state job must in 10 days resign their current role ( ie as governor of FL ). Has the GOP overturned that one yet ?

It’s been speculated that he’ll have some freethinker introduce and pass an amendment to that…quietly…in short order

 

[mikejs78]

Phase 1: Get through the early debates as the clear #2. This is about name ID more than anything else. It's "no press is bad press" time.

I think he doesn't get past this. Very few frontrunners or #2s at this point stay that way through the early debates. Trump will, but I am increasingly of the opinion that DeSantis won't. For one thing, he's declining. For another, he's a terrible debater. I predict he will be remembered along with Scott Walker, Mike Huckabee, and Jeb Bush as early flame-outs.

 

[UNCgolf]

I think he doesn't get past this. Very few frontrunners or #2s at this point stay that way through the early debates. Trump will, but I am increasingly of the opinion that DeSantis won't. For one thing, he's declining. For another, he's a terrible debater. I predict he will be remembered along with Scott Walker, Mike Huckabee, and Jeb Bush as early flame-outs.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

At the VERY LEAST, it’s bad optics…Cruz should’ve been on the next flight back…say what you will about Christie, when Sandy hit, he was OUTSTANDING…his problems came AFTER Sandy…

He was hugging the guy with the big fat wallet too

 

[mikejs78]

He was hugging the guy with the big fat wallet too

Besides bridgegate, that's the other thing that killed his chance at the presidency. The GOP base wouldn't forgive him for that.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I’m guessing more like $300-$500 on average.

I’d have to check my statement…
But is that “a lot” in 2023?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Besides bridgegate, that's the other thing that killed his chance at the presidency. The GOP base wouldn't forgive him for that.

…let’s not ride this train off the tracks and pretend overt racism is a “party plank”?

 

[GoofGoof]

Maybe…but to the individual? You flush that much spare change down the toilet each year

Not sure why that matters. If I buy a $10 happy meal at McDonalds and then someone starts a class action lawsuit alleging that there are no actual potatoes in the French fries I’m still able to join even though the $10 isn’t a big deal for me. I’m not saying that increasing the RCID tax portion of the membership dues will make or break anyone but that doesn’t mean it can’t happen.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

NO, that’s what we have in NJ there are 599 districts, each with its own superintendent, BOE, separate purchasing (books,etc)…THATS the main reason we have the highest property taxes in the state…EVERY town in the state is its own little fiefdom…I’ll take county SD ANYTIME

More expensive, higher quality.

That's the tradeoff.