News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[GoofGoof]

I personally think the 13,000 employees figure is more insightful than the $17 billion figure.

Anyone know how many cast members WDW had in 2013?

The Epic Universe project including hotels and additional transportation employees is apparently 14,000 new Universal employees.

I agree. I suspect at least part of the 13,000 jobs could be just ramping up post Covid. I have no facts to support that but it seems like they aren’t quite back to pre-Covid levels to me at WDW. I know that TWDC in total was down over 30,000 CMs in 2022 compared to 2019 but that’s all aspects of the company not just WDW.

Based on a quick google search I found this from 2016 which claimed WDW had 62,000 CMs ~ which is about 13,000 less than today.

10 crazy things you never knew about Walt Disney World

Walt Disney sure had some grand plans when it came to building the Walt Disney Resort in Orlando, Fla.

www.today.com

 

[lentesta]

@lentesta @marni1971 and a few others may have those figures

64,000?

Walt Disney World Resort Selects 2013 – 2014 Ambassador Team

As a relatively new cast member, I was both touched and excited today to be included in a long-standing tradition that has become such an important part of our company's heritage: the announcement of our two newest Disney Ambassadors.

disneyparks.disney.go.com

 

[scottieRoss]

And, everyone forgets that those numbers are Disney employees. They leave out that there are also 15,000 operating participant employees that work in the District. That is over 90,000 employees in that little patch of property.

 

[GrumpyFan]

It’ll be interesting to see what the future holds, I hope they announce something soon.

Don’t hold your breath.
After the news of this past week I doubt Disney will be announcing anything new or major for WDW until they can get more clarity on the situation with CFTOD.

 

[The Mom]

Thank you to those who have returned to the topic. Now if everyone else would please do so.

Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District​

 

[tissandtully]

…[Disney] can do whatever they want

Clearly they can’t, which is why this all started lol

 

[Cliff]

Sorry I have to say this....but everybody arguing back and forth on this Disney/DeSantis/Florida/RCID/Woke thing are not being honest about any of it.

Everybody has chosen their for/against sides and no what matter information comes to light on either side....both scream at each other and declare "its all a lie". The tribalism...the "defend your flag at ANY cost" mentality is crazy.

Nobody wants to look at BOTH sides objectively. Instead, it's all about defend & attack for your "cause".

What's right or wrong?...really has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING in this war....and that is disapointing.

If the name "Disney" was replaced with "Exxon" or "Haliburton" or "My Pillow" companies...and all else being equal? I suspect BOTH sides would completely FLIP 180 degrees around...overnight... and continue fighting each other like how they flip teams and sides on football field in a game every quarter.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Sorry I have to say this....but everybody arguing back and forth on this Disney/DeSantis/Florida/RCID/Woke thing are not being honest about any of it.

Everybody has chosen their for/against sides and no matter information comes to light on either side....both scream at each other and declare "its all a lie". The tribalism...the "defend your flag at ANY cost" mentality is crazy.

Nobody wants to look at BOTH sides objectively. Instead, it's all about defend & attack for your "cause".

What's right or wrong?...really has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING in this war....and that is disapointing.

If the name "Disney" was replaced with "Exxon" or "Haliburton" or "My Pillow" companies...and all else being equal? I suspect BOTH sides would completely FLIP 180 degrees around...overnight... and continue fighting each other like how they flip teams and sides on football field in a game every quarter.

And what is thing that is so right that is just being ignored do to tribalism? What information has come to light that is being ignore? Do tell us.

 

[drnilescrane]

After the news of this past week I doubt Disney will be announcing anything new or major for WDW until they can get more clarity on the situation with CFTOD.

...and making a point of underscoring that in the press too.

I understand it's hard to be objective about it, but the silver lining of this situation is that it's put DisneylandForward on the glide-path. We've gone from a Sacramento who couldn't care less about theme parks (because only people from out of state go to Disneyland ) to actively cheering on the project. Might as well take the win while you can.

 

[networkpro]

Whatever side you're on, there are some good things coming about from the change. The Emergency Services personnel finally will have a contract with raises and new vehicles.

Reedy Creek firefighters vote in favor of new contract

A union for Reedy Creek firefighters has voted on a new contract that could increase the firefighters' salaries.

www.wesh.com

 

[scottieRoss]

Sorry I have to say this....but everybody arguing back and forth on this Disney/DeSantis/Florida/RCID/Woke thing are not being honest about any of it.

Everybody has chosen their for/against sides and no what matter information comes to light on either side....both scream at each other and declare "its all a lie". The tribalism...the "defend your flag at ANY cost" mentality is crazy.

Nobody wants to look at BOTH sides objectively. Instead, it's all about defend & attack for your "cause".

What's right or wrong?...really has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING in this war....and that is disapointing.

If the name "Disney" was replaced with "Exxon" or "Haliburton" or "My Pillow" companies...and all else being equal? I suspect BOTH sides would completely FLIP 180 degrees around...overnight... and continue fighting each other like how they flip teams and sides on football field in a game every quarter.

Sorry, but that is just plain wrong. One side has displayed facts. The other side displays false statements, talking points not based on facts and wrong histories. One side is emotionally invested and only sees premises based on an emotional platform and fail to see the facts.

 

[LittleBuford]

Sorry I have to say this....but everybody arguing back and forth on this Disney/DeSantis/Florida/RCID/Woke thing are not being honest about any of it.

Everybody has chosen their for/against sides and no what matter information comes to light on either side....both scream at each other and declare "its all a lie". The tribalism...the "defend your flag at ANY cost" mentality is crazy.

Nobody wants to look at BOTH sides objectively. Instead, it's all about defend & attack for your "cause".

What's right or wrong?...really has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING in this war....and that is disapointing.

If the name "Disney" was replaced with "Exxon" or "Haliburton" or "My Pillow" companies...and all else being equal? I suspect BOTH sides would completely FLIP 180 degrees around...overnight... and continue fighting each other like how they flip teams and sides on football field in a game every quarter.

Nope.

Slurring a company as promoters of paedophilia is always wrong.

Illegal government retaliation against a company for exercising its protected rights is always wrong.

Wrong is always wrong.

 

[mikejs78]

Sorry I have to say this....but everybody arguing back and forth on this Disney/DeSantis/Florida/RCID/Woke thing are not being honest about any of it.

Everybody has chosen their for/against sides and no what matter information comes to light on either side....both scream at each other and declare "its all a lie". The tribalism...the "defend your flag at ANY cost" mentality is crazy.

Nobody wants to look at BOTH sides objectively. Instead, it's all about defend & attack for your "cause".

What's right or wrong?...really has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING in this war....and that is disapointing.

If the name "Disney" was replaced with "Exxon" or "Haliburton" or "My Pillow" companies...and all else being equal? I suspect BOTH sides would completely FLIP 180 degrees around...overnight... and continue fighting each other like how they flip teams and sides on football field in a game every quarter.

There isn't a "both sides" here, unless one side thinks the Constitution of the United States doesn't matter.

 

[GoofGoof]

Sorry I have to say this....but everybody arguing back and forth on this Disney/DeSantis/Florida/RCID/Woke thing are not being honest about any of it.

Everybody has chosen their for/against sides and no what matter information comes to light on either side....both scream at each other and declare "its all a lie". The tribalism...the "defend your flag at ANY cost" mentality is crazy.

Nobody wants to look at BOTH sides objectively. Instead, it's all about defend & attack for your "cause".

What's right or wrong?...really has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING in this war....and that is disapointing.

If the name "Disney" was replaced with "Exxon" or "Haliburton" or "My Pillow" companies...and all else being equal? I suspect BOTH sides would completely FLIP 180 degrees around...overnight... and continue fighting each other like how they flip teams and sides on football field in a game every quarter.

I can’t speak for anyone else (not sure how you can either) but my position has not changed from the start of this. I believe in free speech, even if that speech is something I don’t agree with, it’s fundamental to our government and is protected by the constitution. It is unlikely any information will come to light that changes my opinion on that. I believe that it is wrong for any politician who is elected to serve the people to use the power of the government that has been entrusted to them to punish anybody who speaks out against them or opposes their policies. I don’t believe there is likely to be any information that comes to light which will change my position on that either. I 100% believe that this action against Disney and the seizing of control of RCID has been taken as a direct response to Disney speaking out. I’ve been told that by the Governor and various members of the legislation including even a chapter in the Governor’s book.

So if I support free speech for all, I am opposed to government overreach and use of government power to punish free speech and I believe without a doubt that this action was government overreach used to punish free speech how is that not being honest about any of it? What am I supposed to be looking at objectively from the other side? Honest question because it seems pretty straight forward to me.

One more thing to add: we are 1,000+ pages into this thread and there has been a nearly continuous discussion for over a year now here. I doubt there is much information available that people here haven’t heard or talked about. It’s simply inaccurate to imply that people are not informed and are just picking a side blindly based on tribalism. That may be true in society in general but most of the regular posters here are well informed of the various details of the case.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

Sorry I have to say this....but everybody arguing back and forth on this Disney/DeSantis/Florida/RCID/Woke thing are not being honest about any of it.

Everybody has chosen their for/against sides and no what matter information comes to light on either side....both scream at each other and declare "its all a lie". The tribalism...the "defend your flag at ANY cost" mentality is crazy.

Nobody wants to look at BOTH sides objectively. Instead, it's all about defend & attack for your "cause".

What's right or wrong?...really has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING in this war....and that is disapointing.

If the name "Disney" was replaced with "Exxon" or "Haliburton" or "My Pillow" companies...and all else being equal? I suspect BOTH sides would completely FLIP 180 degrees around...overnight... and continue fighting each other like how they flip teams and sides on football field in a game every quarter.

There's only one side. It's called the United States Constitution.

There is "objectively", it's "one side" used their governmental powers to attack the "other side", which is a direct violation of the U.S. Constitution. Moving on....

 

[GoofGoof]

There's only one side. It's called the United States Constitution.

There is "objectively", it's "one side" used their governmental powers to attack the "other side", which is a direct violation of the U.S. Constitution. Moving on....

I agree. The only thing left to see is if a court agrees with that too. I think we all can probably agree that OJ did it….but he still walked. I do still have confidence in the courts but some people call me naive.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

I agree. The only thing left to see is if a court agrees with that too. I think we all can probably agree that OJ did it….but he still walked. I do still have confidence in the courts but some people call me naive.

OJ did it, and so did Casey Anthony, but they're both free people now. Will for sure be interesting to see how a federal judge rules here.

It would be setting a dangerous precedent if he doesn't rule in favor of the constitution (Disney's side).

 

[Chi84]

Sorry I have to say this....but everybody arguing back and forth on this Disney/DeSantis/Florida/RCID/Woke thing are not being honest about any of it.

Everybody has chosen their for/against sides and no what matter information comes to light on either side....both scream at each other and declare "its all a lie". The tribalism...the "defend your flag at ANY cost" mentality is crazy.

Nobody wants to look at BOTH sides objectively. Instead, it's all about defend & attack for your "cause".

What's right or wrong?...really has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING in this war....and that is disapointing.

If the name "Disney" was replaced with "Exxon" or "Haliburton" or "My Pillow" companies...and all else being equal? I suspect BOTH sides would completely FLIP 180 degrees around...overnight... and continue fighting each other like how they flip teams and sides on football field in a game every quarter.

That’s a terrible way to undermine and dismiss posters who have gone to great lengths to learn about RCID and discuss the issues reasonably and respectfully.

You’re entitled to believe what you like, but trying to shut people up by accusing them all of dishonesty and unconquerable bias is a poor tactic.

 

[tissandtully]

Sorry I have to say this....but everybody arguing back and forth on this Disney/DeSantis/Florida/RCID/Woke thing are not being honest about any of it.

Everybody has chosen their for/against sides and no what matter information comes to light on either side....both scream at each other and declare "its all a lie". The tribalism...the "defend your flag at ANY cost" mentality is crazy.

Nobody wants to look at BOTH sides objectively. Instead, it's all about defend & attack for your "cause".

What's right or wrong?...really has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING in this war....and that is disapointing.

If the name "Disney" was replaced with "Exxon" or "Haliburton" or "My Pillow" companies...and all else being equal? I suspect BOTH sides would completely FLIP 180 degrees around...overnight... and continue fighting each other like how they flip teams and sides on football field in a game every quarter.

Nice try, bud, I think most would be unhappy with this if it were against people they didn’t actually like as well. Me included. And I’ve stated in here many times, if it hasn’t been deleted. It would have been wrong for Charlie Crist to do something against the Villages. The precedence that could be established for government retaliation in this case is just too much to resort to calling it tribalism and is definitely a very misguided take on your part.

 

[tissandtully]

OJ did it, and so did Casey Anthony, but they're both free people now. Will for sure be interesting to see how a federal judge rules here.

It would be setting a dangerous precedent if he doesn't rule in favor of the constitution (Disney's side).

Both had prosecutors who were unable to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt, so the system worked. You’ll see neither is living high on the hog right now anyways. So it all comes around.