News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[lazyboy97o]

Has anyone publicly addressed the need to pass a bill that revokes a development agreement that they already declared was void? How can the district move forward with their lawsuit now unless they ignore this bill?

I asked a question the other day. It seems to set a trap for the District as the language of the bill refers to development agreements that are in effect. Using the authority of this act seems like it would mean reversing their position and acknowledging that it is a valid agreement that is in effect. That kills the District’s case in state court.

Not taking the state up on this authority means there is the potential for conflict in between the state and District in their federal defense.

 

[disneylandtour]

Has anyone publicly addressed the need to pass a bill that revokes a development agreement that they already declared was void? How can the district move forward with their lawsuit now unless they ignore this bill?

Florida sees the possibility that they will lose in court. So they are trying to do the same thing from another angle. But again, this seems like a delay strategy, as Disney will likely need to figure out how to address this through a court filing as well. Each day I see the monstrous legal bills that will pile up to undo all this.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Florida sees the possibility that they will lose in court. So they are trying to do the same thing from another angle. But again, this seems like a delay strategy, as Disney will likely need to figure out how to address this through a court filing as well. Each day I see the monstrous legal bills that will pile up to undo all this.

Losers:
TWDC
WDW Parks and Resorts
Guests of WDW Parks and Resorts
DeSantis
Iger
The special district
Florida state
Florida taxpayer

Winners:
THE LAWERS!!!!

 

[JAB]

I wonder if they think they're covering their bases (even though the board's current position contradicts the need for legislation) in the event that the court declares the contracts valid.

CFTOD: "We have the power to declare these contracts void because they're not valid"

Courts: "Nope. The contracts are valid."

CFTOD: "Fine; they're valid. The new law lets us retroactively void them, then, and our vote to void still counts. So there!"


Of course this scenario doesn't really help them if the court nullifies 4C/9B.

 

[Lilofan]

Losers:
TWDC
WDW Parks and Resorts
Guests of WDW Parks and Resorts
DeSantis
Iger
The special district
Florida state
Florida taxpayer

Winners:
THE LAWERS!!!!

Protect you when harmed , defend you when accused - Lawyers $$$

 

[seascape]

Protect you when harmed , defend you when accused - Lawyers $$$

Yes, everyone loves the lawyer who is on your side.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Protect you when harmed , defend you when accused - Lawyers $$$

Win or lose - Lawyers $$$

 

[JoeCamel]

Yes, everyone loves the lawyer who is on your side.

I don't, they are still charging way too much for what they do

 

[lazyboy97o]

I wonder if they think they're covering their bases (even though the board's current position contradicts the need for legislation) in the event that the court declares the contracts valid.

CFTOD: "We have the power to declare these contracts void because they're not valid"

Courts: "Nope. The contracts are valid."

CFTOD: "Fine; they're valid. The new law lets us retroactively void them, then, and our vote to void still counts. So there!"


Of course this scenario doesn't really help them if the court nullifies 4C/9B.

I think it was just more the slapdash way this has been done. The governor said he was going to do something so he has to have something to do. If the contracts are valid then this is just a blatantly unconstitutional move that shows how there is not actual concern for the restricting of state power.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I wonder if they think they're covering their bases (even though the board's current position contradicts the need for legislation) in the event that the court declares the contracts valid.

CFTOD: "We have the power to declare these contracts void because they're not valid"

Courts: "Nope. The contracts are valid."

CFTOD: "Fine; they're valid. The new law lets us retroactively void them, then, and our vote to void still counts. So there!"


Of course this scenario doesn't really help them if the court nullifies 4C/9B.

I think they’re just throwing everything they can think of at the wall and hoping something sticks.

Which to me is a good sign for Disney, if the state thought they had a good case I don’t think they’d be passing other bills that will only matter if they lose.

 

[GoofGoof]

I wonder if they think they're covering their bases (even though the board's current position contradicts the need for legislation) in the event that the court declares the contracts valid.

CFTOD: "We have the power to declare these contracts void because they're not valid"

Courts: "Nope. The contracts are valid."

CFTOD: "Fine; they're valid. The new law lets us retroactively void them, then, and our vote to void still counts. So there!"


Of course this scenario doesn't really help them if the court nullifies 4C/9B.

I think that’s probably the case. Plus politics. Gov has to show he has total control of the legislature and they will just pass anything he wants.

My only point was as @lazyboy97o said, if the legislature has recognized this is a valid agreement and decided they needed legislation to void it that sorta hurts the district’s case that the contract was never valid.

 

[GoofGoof]

Florida sees the possibility that they will lose in court. So they are trying to do the same thing from another angle. But again, this seems like a delay strategy, as Disney will likely need to figure out how to address this through a court filing as well. Each day I see the monstrous legal bills that will pile up to undo all this.

Yeah I’m sure the lawyer bills are outrageous already and we are just getting started. What a waste of taxpayer‘s money.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I guess the District taking a different position on the contracts could help the state’s defense regarding this own law if it’s added to Disney’s complaint.

“Disney doesn’t have standing to challenge this law because it’s not about their void agreement. We just want to make sure something similar doesn’t happen in the next five years.”

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Yeah I’m sure the lawyer bills are outrageous already and we are just getting started. What a waste of taxpayer‘s money.

Any idea if Disney has had to add additional council or if they are just using their existing in-house legal team?

We know the district is using outside legal teams at added expense, just wondering if Disney was incurring added costs too or just using people already on the payroll.

 

[Lilofan]

Any idea if Disney has had to add additional council or if they are just using their existing in-house legal team?

We know the district is using outside legal teams at added expense, just wondering if Disney was incurring added costs too or just using people already on the payroll.

O'Melveney Myers
Wilmer Hale
Disney using these lawyer firms from NYC to fight DeSantis

 

[mikejs78]

I guess the District taking a different position on the contracts could help the state’s defense regarding this own law if it’s added to Disney’s complaint.

“Disney doesn’t have standing to challenge this law because it’s not about their void agreement. We just want to make sure something similar doesn’t happen in the next five years.”

How many special districts span multiple counties?

 

[lazyboy97o]

How many special districts span multiple counties?

The Villages as a development spans multiple countries but I’m not sure if any of their districts cross the county line. Given the number of districts, I I’d be more surprised if there is only one. The triggering mechanism of changing the board, which you note is legally dubious on its own, is probably the bigger issue.

I also don’t think the defense I noted helps much. It’d have to be a scenario where the bill cannot be challenged, the contracts are upheld and the District laws upheld. It’s really just a stall because you’d be right back in court as Disney would now have standing to defend a valid contract.

 

[UNCgolf]

Any idea if Disney has had to add additional council or if they are just using their existing in-house legal team?

We know the district is using outside legal teams at added expense, just wondering if Disney was incurring added costs too or just using people already on the payroll.

Companies almost never use their in-house attorneys for litigation (or government investigations etc.). They're more for compliance, risk management, etc. -- that's not to say they wouldn't be consulted on litigation issues, but they generally wouldn't actually litigate anything.

 

[JohnD]

Now the site to watch is the Governor's website to see when HB 1305 (monorail inspections) and SB 1604 (revoking RCID development agreement) are presented to the Governor and when he has to take action.

Click on "2023 Bill Actions". The link is a different PDF file name almost every day otherwise I would directly link that.

 

[flynnibus]

How many special districts span multiple counties?

Search to your heart's content...

https://specialdistrictreports.floridajobs.org/OfficialList/CustomList