Gringrinngghost
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There are 77 multiple county Special Districts, but only one when I match to RCID which is RCIDSearch to your heart's content...
There are 77 multiple county Special Districts, but only one when I match to RCID which is RCIDSearch to your heart's content...
The point was how many span multiple counties.....There are 77 multiple county Special Districts, but only one when I match to RCID which is RCID
Also using Adam Losey, an attorney based in Orlando.O'Melveney Myers
Wilmer Hale
Disney using these lawyer firms from NYC to fight DeSantis
How many special districts span multiple counties?
CFTOD Board of Supervisors was confirmed yesterday, but not will full support.View attachment 714618View attachment 714619
Isn't there a time limit on how long the board has to use the new law to to void the contract? How long after the change in board I think.I wonder if they think they're covering their bases (even though the board's current position contradicts the need for legislation) in the event that the court declares the contracts valid.
I think the final wording is that the district is not allowed to comply with an agreement and has four months to review and renew it. So a new complaint to be added to Disney’s federal suit.Isn't there a time limit on how long the board has to use the new law to to void the contract? How long after the change in board I think.
The state case is unlikely to be decided prior to that deadline. Unless it's thrown out immediately in Disney's favor with the legal equivalent of "what are you even talking about, that's not how this works".
Which, if the board is unable to use the law prior to its deadline to avoid destroying their state case, makes the law irrelevant in this dispute.
A difficult position for the board. They can continue the current state case or use the power of the new law (and the lawsuit that will spawn). It will be difficult to do both though.
I suppose they could try to add the power from the new law to the current state case, but that seems at internal odds with the rest of the claims.
Isn't there a time limit on how long the board has to use the new law to to void the contract? How long after the change in board I think.
The state case is unlikely to be decided prior to that deadline. Unless it's thrown out immediately in Disney's favor with the legal equivalent of "what are you even talking about, that's not how this works".
Which, if the board is unable to use the law prior to its deadline to avoid destroying their state case, makes the law irrelevant in this dispute.
A difficult position for the board. They can continue the current state case or use the power of the new law (and the lawsuit that will spawn). It will be difficult to do both though.
I suppose they could try to add the power from the new law to the current state case, but that seems at internal odds with the rest of the claims.
So, it doesn't require some action by the new board to undo a prior contract, but instead requires the new board to take an action to confirm the prior contract is good?I think the final wording is that the district is not allowed to comply with an agreement and has four months to review and renew it. So a new complaint to be added to Disney’s federal suit.
This can’t be legal. This law basically says a government body cannot comply with a valid contract if the contract happened to be signed within 3 months of a change in power at the district. I can’t see how that can be legal to apply retroactively. How would any entity signing the contract know if/when the government board would change hands?From SB 1604
"7) REVIEW OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.—An independent special district is precluded from complying with the terms of any development agreement, or any other agreement for which the development agreement serves in whole or part as consideration, which is executed within 3 months preceding the effective date of a law modifying the manner of selecting members of the governing body of the independent special district from election to appointment or from appointment to election. The newly elected or appointed governing body of the independent special district shall review within 4 months of taking office any development agreement or any other agreement for which the development agreement serves in whole or part as consideration and shall, after such review, vote on whether to seek readoption of such agreement. This subsection shall apply to any development agreement that is in effect on, or is executed after, the effective date of this section. This subsection expires July 1, 2028, unless reviewed and saved from repeal through reenactment by the Legislature."
This section of SB 1604 states that the District would be precluded from complying with the development agreement. That's not the same as legislation voiding the agreement.
It looks like it was put in there to make sure everyone would know it applies only to Disney.This can’t be legal. This law basically says a government body cannot comply with a valid contract if the contract happened to be signed within 3 months of a change in power at the district. I can’t see how that can be legal to apply retroactively. How would any entity signing the contract know if/when the government board would change hands?
I think the final wording is that the district is not allowed to comply with an agreement and has four months to review and renew it. So a new complaint to be added to Disney’s federal suit.
This would not apply to RCDI since that DA was made in February and this bill does not state it goes back in time to February, which would be illegal anyway.From SB 1604
"7) REVIEW OF DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.—An independent special district is precluded from complying with the terms of any development agreement, or any other agreement for which the development agreement serves in whole or part as consideration, which is executed within 3 months preceding the effective date of a law modifying the manner of selecting members of the governing body of the independent special district from election to appointment or from appointment to election. The newly elected or appointed governing body of the independent special district shall review within 4 months of taking office any development agreement or any other agreement for which the development agreement serves in whole or part as consideration and shall, after such review, vote on whether to seek readoption of such agreement. This subsection shall apply to any development agreement that is in effect on, or is executed after, the effective date of this section. This subsection expires July 1, 2028, unless reviewed and saved from repeal through reenactment by the Legislature."
This section of SB 1604 states that the District would be precluded from complying with the development agreement. That's not the same as legislation voiding the agreement.
The Florida Constitution specifies the difference between 'local', 'general' and 'special' acts. It has to do with the way they are introduced. A Local Act is introduced as a bill from the local government. A General or Special act is introduced in the legislature. A General Act is designed to apply to all citizens of the state, like the Don't Say Gay bill, a Special Act applies to only a specific class or location in the state, like the RCID implementing legislation.It's both. There was a "local bill" on the calendar today for the Lake Padgett Estates Independent Special District. Regarding your making a distinction without a difference, when signed by the Governor, it will be both a "special act" and a "local act". Why? It's a local bill about an independent special district, just what the RCID was.
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It does require the new board to not comply with an already existing and valid agreement. So while it doesn’t require the board to take action to void the agreement, I still don't think that’s consistent with the boards’s current claim that the contract was never valid in the first place. If the contract is not valid this law doesn’t apply to it. If the contract is valid they have 4 months form taking over to review it and vote on whether to readopt it. So if they take that vote by end of June then that vote confirms the board considers the agreement as valid so weakens their state case. If they ignore the contract because it isn’t valid and then they lose the state case it will be too late to vote. I believe the way this is written is if they don’t take the vote within 4 months then the agreement is automatically readopted.So, it doesn't require some action by the new board to undo a prior contract, but instead requires the new board to take an action to confirm the prior contract is good?
That's a subtle but important difference. Much like all the subtle nuances in the RCID structure that always matter.
With that frame, I could see Disney adding this law to their suit as one more thing. I could also see the district adding it to their suit as one more thing.
With the law stating the contract is invalid without the board taking action to keep it, that would allow it to be consistent with the board's current suit that the contract is not valid.
The difference between "the law gives new boards the ability to negate a recent prior contract" and "the law negates recent prior contracts unless the new board affirms them" is an important structural difference with differences in how the actions apply.
With all the changes and new laws "not targeted at Disney/RCID wink wink", were any other districts swept up and also had their boards redefined? As this would impact them too then.
This can’t be legal. This law basically says a government body cannot comply with a valid contract if the contract happened to be signed within 3 months of a change in power at the district. I can’t see how that can be legal to apply retroactively. How would any entity signing the contract know if/when the government board would change hands?
That's an interesting distinction. It's a lose lose proposition then. The only option is a lawsuit. A board complying with this would be sued for violating the contract. A violation the law seems to require them to do. A board complying with the contract would be violating this law. Does the state sue them then or just press charges? What's the impact of a board ignoring this law and complying with the original contract?This section of SB 1604 states that the District would be precluded from complying with the development agreement. That's not the same as legislation voiding the agreement.
It's would be a free get out of contract maneuver for any district. Sign a deal you don't like, get the district structure changed. Rinse and repeat and do it again later.This can’t be legal. This law basically says a government body cannot comply with a valid contract if the contract happened to be signed within 3 months of a change in power at the district. I can’t see how that can be legal to apply retroactively. How would any entity signing the contract know if/when the government board would change hands?
The 2 attachments show who voted nay.That's an interesting record. There are 40 state senators. So who voted "no" on the confirmation? No seat in the Senate is currently vacant.
It does require the new board to not comply with an already existing and valid agreement. So while it doesn’t require the board to take action to void the agreement, I still don't think that’s consistent with the boards’s current claim that the contract was never valid in the first place. If the contract is not valid this law doesn’t apply to it. If the contract is valid they have 4 months form taking over to review it and vote on whether to readopt it. So if they take that vote by end of June then that vote confirms the board considers the agreement as valid so weakens their state case. If they ignore the contract because it isn’t valid and then they lose the state case it will be too late to vote. I believe the way this is written is if they don’t take the vote within 4 months then the agreement is automatically readopted.
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