News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[Stripes]

Not sure if this has been shared yet. I’d recommend reading the accompanying article.

 

[RamblinWreck]

If I were Bob Iger:
1) I sure as hell wouldn't have sued Florida to avoid generating more negative publicity
2) I'd seriously give other Southern states a look for relocation as it appears ABC/Disney has outworn its welcome in Florida
3) I'd start talks with Paramount Global, Blackstone Group and SeaWorld Entertainment to investigate divesting the Florida parks
4) I'd bring back Joe Rohde as Chief Imagineer of a new WDW complex in another state, making him the creative force while driving the financials

Moving Disney World is not realistic.

The lawsuit was the last resort. They didn’t actually have another option.

 

[JohnD]

More DeSantis/Disney news from Sayfie Review

NYTimes: Man vs. Mouse: Ron DeSantis Finds Taking On Disney Is a Dicey Business

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AP: Florida Gov. DeSantis says Disney lawsuit is political

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Herald: Despite warnings, Florida Senate moves bill to aid DeSantis in battle with Disney

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FlaPol: Marco Rubio says Ron DeSantis’ Disney pressure could be ‘problematic’

The Hill: Rubio warns against Florida going after companies for ‘political purposes’

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FlaPol: Ashley Moody 'puzzled' by Disney naming Ron DeSantis in its lawsuit against the state

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Newsweek: Kevin McCarthy urges Ron DeSantis to end Disney feud

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Politico: DeSantis rivals are enjoying his feud with Disney. Here are the Republicans who’ve lashed out.

TB Times: DeSantis v. Disney: Who has the edge in a long, drawn-out fight?

TB Times: As DeSantis takes heat for Disney feud, Florida lawmakers remain behind him

 

[Patcheslee]

Senate Special session did not meet today I guess. SB1250 will not be addressed until Monday.

 

[mikejs78]

From Wiki:

"In the context of United States law, originalism is a theory of constitutional interpretation that asserts that all statements in the Constitution must be interpreted based on the original understanding "at the time it was adopted"."

Wiki isn't always accurate, and in this case that's not a great explanation. Justice Scalia wrote about originalism as:

The theory of originalism treats a constitution like a statute, and gives it the meaning that its words were understood to bear at the time they were promulgated. You will sometimes hear it described as the theory of original intent. You will never hear me refer to original intent, because as I say I am first of all a textualist, and secondly an originalist. If you are a textualist, you don’t care about the intent, and I don’t care if the framers of the Constitution had some secret meaning in mind when they adopted its words. I take the words as they were promulgated to the people of the United States, and what is the fairly understood meaning of those words.

In regards to Citizens United, an originalist case for it can be summed up as:

• The constitution doesn't say "Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech for individuals", it says "Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech".
• We assume corporations have other rights, such as the right to due process, the right to have their contracts upheld, etc.
• Therefore, since corporations are nothing more than groups of people, they are entitled to 1st amendment rights by virtue of the fact that the people who belong to a corporation are entitled to first amendment rights.

Not saying I agree or disagree, but this is the orignalist case for CU...

Same goes for contract law. The constitution says that "No state shall...pass any law...imparing the obligation of contracts". The orignalist looks at the text of this and says that no contracts, public or private, should be impared.

Now, not every judge who claims to be an originalist, is in fact an originalist. Many are partisan. And from the point of view of the appelate court, they are bound by Citizens United in considering that corporations are entitled to first amendment rights.

 

[LittleBuford]

I think his point is less about being bothered by the term chosen, and more about how nobody seems to be able to settle on what that term is.

I would guess the vast majority of people have no idea what “2slgbtq” even means.

I know I don’t. I even googled it a second ago and read what it stands for, and still don’t know what it means.

I'm gay, and I didn't know what the 2 or the s meant. I had to look it up. Don't mind its inclusion, but it is fairly obscure.

I believe 2S has particular currency in Canada (where @Disney Analyst is from) because of its use among First Nations communities.

That people have to look it up is no bad thing. On the contrary, it’s an opportunity to learn something new.

 

[JohnD]

Senate Special session did not meet today I guess. SB1250 will not be addressed until Monday.

They did meet. The bill was put on "Special Order", meaning it's heard for 2nd reading then rolls over to third reading. They didn't get to all bills on the calendar (it was toward the bottom). They pick up the Special Order calendar again next week.

From here: https://www.flsenate.gov/Home/4-28-2023?Tab=SenateFloor

The Senate will convene on Monday, May 1, 2023 at 10:00 a.m., or upon the call of the President.

S 1250 General Bill by DiCeglie Department of Transportation	4/28/2023 S: Retained on Special Order Calendar

 

[Touchdown]

So the board still hasn’t been confirmed yet right? If they don’t get confirmed by Monday then their term ends in 45 days. Also of note, the legislature still hasn’t passed a bill for DeSantis to stay Gov if he becomes a presidential candidate. If these facts remain then it’s highly likely DeSantis will not be Gov in 45 days and the current Lt Gov will be appointing the new board…

 

[Disney Analyst]

I believe 2S has particular currency in Canada (where @Disney Analyst is from) because of its use among First Nations communities.

That people have to look it up is no bad thing. On the contrary, it’s an opportunity to learn something new.

And again, if you don't want to know more... don't learn more about it. No big - move on with your life, let us use the terms we choose to use, and let us live happy fruitful lives.

But if terminology is the reason someone is "turned off" by a community, one which has faced discrimination, bigotry, and systemic government restrictions from past to present, that speaks very loudly about the kind of person they are.

 

[BuzzedPotatoHead89]

So the board still hasn’t been confirmed yet right? If they don’t get confirmed by Monday then their term ends in 45 days. Also of note, the legislature still hasn’t passed a bill for DeSantis to stay Gov if he becomes a presidential candidate. If these facts remain then it’s highly likely DeSantis will not be Gov in 45 days and the current Lt Gov will be appointing the new board…

The legislature did clear a path for DeSantis to run today.

Florida Legislature passes bill allowing DeSantis to run for president as governor

The move by GOP legislators comes shortly before the governor is expected to jump into the race for president in the next few weeks.

www.politico.com

 

[Touchdown]

The legislature did clear a path for DeSantis to run today.

Florida Legislature passes bill allowing DeSantis to run for president as governor

The move by GOP legislators comes shortly before the governor is expected to jump into the race for president in the next few weeks.

www.politico.com

Never mind

 

[lentesta]

You know - and this is all hypothetical, because what do I know? - if you told me that Walker was actually the third judge to be offered this case after two others passed on it as a no-win career-killer, I would totally believe that.

Like "If I rule according to the facts, I'll never move up in a Republican administration. And if I rule for the state, I'll get smacked down on appeal and spend the rest of my career eating lunch at the Pompano Applebees with Aileen Canon."

Hypothetically.

After the NYSE closed today, the court released a series of documents. One of them seems to indicate the case was first assigned to Martin A Fitzpatrick, a Rick Scott appointee, who recused himself yesterday based on a third-degree relationship with someone who has a financial interest in the outcome:

I'm not going to question Judge Fitzpatrick's motives here. I merely incorporate my previous remarks by reference.

 

[Patcheslee]

They did meet. The bill was put on "Special Order", meaning it's heard for 2nd reading then rolls over to third reading. They didn't get to all bills on the calendar (it was toward the bottom). They pick up the Special Order calendar again next week.

From here: https://www.flsenate.gov/Home/4-28-2023?Tab=SenateFloor

The Senate will convene on Monday, May 1, 2023 at 10:00 a.m., or upon the call of the President.

S 1250 General Bill by DiCeglie Department of Transportation	4/28/2023 S: Retained on Special Order Calendar

Okay. I caught the last 10 minutes of the regular session, then the special order was apparently canceled.
Order not session

 

[LAKid53]

Senate Special session did not meet today I guess. SB1250 will not be addressed until Monday.

The Legislature is in regular session. There is no need for a "special session". Are you sure you're not talking about the Senate Transportation Committee?

Special order calendar just means that bills on their 2nd reading will be done on a specific day. Not uncommon when the regular session ends in a week. And the Legislature sometimes adjourns early in Friday.

We still don't have a budget bill. Given the 72 hour cooling off period, needs to happen by Tuesday.

 

[LAKid53]

They did meet. The bill was put on "Special Order", meaning it's heard for 2nd reading then rolls over to third reading. They didn't get to all bills on the calendar (it was toward the bottom). They pick up the Special Order calendar again next week.

From here: https://www.flsenate.gov/Home/4-28-2023?Tab=SenateFloor

The Senate will convene on Monday, May 1, 2023 at 10:00 a.m., or upon the call of the President.

S 1250 General Bill by DiCeglie Department of Transportation	4/28/2023 S: Retained on Special Order Calendar

John, any word on a budget bill? I'm not in Tally and the Democrat isn't reporting anything. They've got until late Tuesday to pass one.

 

[LAKid53]

After the NYSE closed today, the court released a series of documents. One of them seems to indicate the case was first assigned to Martin A Fitzpatrick, a Rick Scott appointee, who recused himself yesterday based on a third-degree relationship with someone who has a financial interest in the outcome:

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I'm not going to question Judge Fitzpatrick's motives here. I merely incorporate my previous remarks by reference.

Don't you mean nominee? US Senators don't appoint judges to the federal bench.

 

[LAKid53]

So the board still hasn’t been confirmed yet right? If they don’t get confirmed by Monday then their term ends in 45 days. Also of note, the legislature still hasn’t passed a bill for DeSantis to stay Gov if he becomes a presidential candidate. If these facts remain then it’s highly likely DeSantis will not be Gov in 45 days and the current Lt Gov will be appointing the new board…

The House approved SB 7050 and it's on the way to the governor to be signed.

If the Legislature didn't amend 99.012, F.S., to remove the prohibition on POTUS and VPOTUS, that still isn't how the law works. The governor would have to submit his resignation at least 10 days prior to qualifying for office. Qualifying for federal office opens April 22, 2024. According to the statute,

"(d) The resignation must be effective no later than the earlier of the following dates:
1. The date the officer would take office, if elected; or
2. The date the officer’s successor is required to take office."

 

[JohnD]

Okay. I caught the last 10 minutes of the regular session, then the special session was apparently canceled.

There is no special session. They are entirely in 2023 regular session until May 5. You're thinking "Special Order" which is a time on the floor that a bill is on 2nd reading and could be amended but no vote is taken as it still has to roll over to 3rd reading before a final vote.

 

[Patcheslee]

There is no special session. They are entirely in 2023 regular session until May 5.

Okay special "order" got words mixed.

 

[JohnD]

Okay special "order" got words mixed.

I updated my post as you were typing. Correct.