News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

ParentsOf4

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The poll may be reflecting general negativity about Disney’s greed from many news stories last year. People who don’t know what is going here specifically but reacting to ‘big greedy company’. How many people outside Florida have followed the RCID story?
It could simply be that those of us who post multiple times a day on a Disney fan site are not representative of how the majority of adults feel on this subject.
 

tissandtully

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How much money does Disney spend in Florida on film production and would HB7073 (filed yesterday) mess with them? Has to do with eliminating tax exemptions in the film industry.
Wow they are really wanting to kill or hamper the Florida economy aren’t they? That’s the only reason films are made in GA, is because of tax breaks. There really isn’t much in Florida, but it’s pretty dumb to stop them.
 

lentesta

Premium Member
The poll may be reflecting general negativity about Disney’s greed from many news stories last year. People who don’t know what is going here specifically but reacting to ‘big greedy company’. How many people outside Florida have followed the RCID story?

Our gov't affairs person, who has contacts in Talahassee, says that internal polling commissioned on this issue does not reflect well on the governor or legislature. At both the state and federal level. I suspect the legisislature thinks it's getting close to time to move on to other things.
 

castlecake2.0

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Orlando Sentinel today:

NOTICE OF MEETING
AMENDED NOTICE - LOCATION CHANGE OF MEETING OF BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
YOU WILL PLEASE TAKE NOTICE that on April 26 th at 9:30 a.m., or as soon thereafter as practicable, the Board of Supervisors of the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District will meet in regular session at The Wyndham Hotel (Horizons ballroom) 1850 Hotel Plaza Boulevard, Lake Buena Vista, Florida. At that time and in addition to other business on the agenda, the Board of Supervisors will conduct a reading and public hearing on and consider for adoption Resolution No. 640. A RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THE CENTRAL FLORIDA TOURIST OVERSIGHT DISTRICT ADOPTING REGULATIONS PROHIBITING COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS AND MANDATES BY BUSINESSES WITHIN THE DISTRICT UPON THEIR CUSTOMERS OR PATRONS AND PROHIBITING COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS AND MANDATES REGARDING THE SERVICES AND OPERATIONS OF THE CENTRAL FLORIDA TOURIST OVERSIGHT DISTRICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, CONFLICTS AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Interested parties may appear at the public meeting and hearing to be heard with respect to the proposed resolutions. If a person decides to appeal any decision made by the Board of Supervisors with respect to any matter considered at such meeting or hearing, he or she will need a record of the proceedings, and that, for such purpose, he or she may need to ensure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made, which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the appeal is to be based.
Who is able to “appeal decisions”?
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Our gov't affairs person, who has contacts in Talahassee, says that internal polling commissioned on this issue does not reflect well on the governor or legislature. At both the state and federal level. I suspect the legisislature thinks it's getting close to time to move on to other things.
That seems to be the way the winds are blowing…just from a novice view.

They’re literally fighting Mickey Mouse over unrelated things that the majority of the country - especially the educated country - disagrees with.

Tough boxing match to win
 

LittleBuford

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Polls of "all adults" are essentially useless.
Scientifically conducted polls, which this appears to be, are not useless; they are, on the contrary, often quite reliable. I see no reason to doubt the data given how ill informed people are on the issue. As we’ve seen repeatedly from what’s posted in this thread, the notion that DeSantis is merely levelling the playing field by depriving Disney of unfair special advantages is very widespread indeed. I’m not the least bit surprised that a good number of Democrats, regardless of how they feel about DeSantis himself, may have subscribed to the view that Disney is finally having to play by the same rules as everyone else.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Scientifically conducted polls, which this appears to be, are not useless; they are, on the contrary, often quite reliable. I see no reason to doubt the data given how ill informed people are on the issue. As we’ve seen repeatedly from what’s posted in this thread, the notion that DeSantis is merely levelling the playing field by depriving Disney of unfair special advantages is very widespread indeed. I’m not the least bit surprised that a good number of Democrats, regardless of how they feel about DeSantis himself. may have subscribed to the view that Disney is finally having to play by the same rules as everyone else.
You’ve missed the problem they’ve had with “polling” the last 20 years or so, huh?
 

LittleBuford

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You’ve missed the problem they’ve had with “polling” the last 20 years or so, huh?
It is a myth that polling is fundamentally less accurate than it used to be. There is a lot of literature on the topic, which is beyond the scope of this thread anyway, but here’s just one recent article:

 

mysto

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To evaluate poll result you need to know who gathered the data and reported it as well as who answered. Frequently this information is unavailable, "people polled say that...".

In modern times polls are used to dictate public opinion as often as they're used to discover it.

Yes there are still professional polling groups that are very serious about their reputations and do good work.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
It is a myth that polling is fundamentally less accurate than it used to be. There is a lot of literature on the topic, which is beyond the scope of this thread anyway, but here’s just one recent article:

You mean from Nate Silver? The pollster that hasn’t been incredibly accurate in recent cycles?


But beyond that…the way hack polls are conducted has skewed because they don’t take into account how information now deciminates.

Any “data” that indicates public opinion is remotely on floridas side - except for the small, dwindling fiefdom that it was designed to rob money from in the first place - is false.

Don’t believe me…watch it play.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
To evaluate poll result you need to know who gathered the data and reported it as well as who answered. Frequently this information is unavailable, "people polled say that...".

In modern times polls are used to dictate public opinion as often as they're used to discover it.
The “who answered” is the problem…which is why pollsters resist getting into it in detail
 

tissandtully

Well-Known Member
Scientifically conducted polls, which this appears to be, are not useless; they are, on the contrary, often quite reliable. I see no reason to doubt the data given how ill informed people are on the issue. As we’ve seen repeatedly from what’s posted in this thread, the notion that DeSantis is merely levelling the playing field by depriving Disney of unfair special advantages is very widespread indeed. I’m not the least bit surprised that a good number of Democrats, regardless of how they feel about DeSantis himself, may have subscribed to the view that Disney is finally having to play by the same rules as everyone else.
Polls are only as good as the way the questions are phrased.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
The poll may be reflecting general negativity about Disney’s greed from many news stories last year. People who don’t know what is going here specifically but reacting to ‘big greedy company’. How many people outside Florida have followed the RCID story?
This is a fair point…Disney has been on a 5 year run of pretty bad PR…by their standards
 

Notypeo

Member
Polls are only as good as the way the questions are phrased.
This is a huge issue in “issue polling,” and it’s compounded here by the technical complexity of the underlying RCID issue. Who doesn’t oppose removing “special tax treatment” or whatever the precise phrase was in the poll we’re all talking about? If you move the language around just a bit you could get very different results.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
It could simply be that those of us who post multiple times a day on a Disney fan site are not representative of how the majority of adults feel on this subject.
The message boards are terrible for discussing anything nuanced. People can generally support a politician, but disagree strongly with some of his actions. People can generally support Disney's current direction with content, but disagree with certain actions or programming.

I consider myself pretty liberal on social issues, but there was a Disney+ video posted in another thread that I found inaccurate, divisive and age-inappropriate for the intended audience. That doesn't mean I no longer support Disney's trend toward diversity and inclusiveness. It means someone, in my opinion, exercised bad judgment with that particular content.
 

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