News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I think there's something to this when it comes to Democrats potentially feeling that, whether they support the reason behind it or not, they don't want Disney to have "special privileges".

This may point further to the lack of wisdom in Disney's decision to lie low, not say anything publicly, and try to outmanoeuvre DeSantis. Essentially, virtually the only narrative that has been out there about RCID is that Disney was getting some kind of massive tax break and allowed to self-govern, and Disney never tried to counter that despite the fact it wasn't true.

I do also suspect, as one commentator in the article suggests, this poll doesn't quite capture how this will play out politically. But, we shall see.

It seems clear that the Iger directed gang of JDs “laid low” specifically to outmaneuver the state with the contract agreements

…if they didn’t have that card to play, they would have likely flooded the airwaves and raised holy hell…
…would have won too.

Who are they scared of? The MAGERS?
Their numbers dwindle everyday

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It doesn't really matter though, does it?

An ignorant person's vote counts just as much as an informed person's vote. And their money is just as green.

As usual…you’re overestimating how “50/50” the country actually is…

It’s not close and the gap widens everyday day because of clown shenanigans such as this…

Have you been watching the “other” hot button issue that has been in the news that the supremes all but killed last night?

It’s up to 68% of REPUBLICANS are changing course after Sammy messed with it last June…
They messed with the bull and now they’re getting the horns

This reedy creek thing is gonna head that way as well. Best move is for Florida to back off and let it go back to status quo. Money and careers at stake.

 

[mikejs78]

It doesn't really matter though, does it?

An ignorant person's vote counts just as much as an informed person's vote. And their money is just as green.

The poll was of adults, not likely voters or even registered voters. Inherently unreliable.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

The poll was of adults, not likely voters or even registered voters. Inherently unreliable.

Adults polls skew left of LV polls. They're unreliable, but the error is always in the same direction. So the effect captured here is likely even more severe among LVs.

 

[Tha Realest]

Adults polls skew left of LV polls. They're unreliable, but the error is always in the same direction. So the effect captured here is likely even more severe among LVs.

I’m not sure why these results are viewed as “surprising.“ They’re in line with his re-election results, which happened after he picked this very visible fight with Disney and signaled his intention to do away with RCID.

 

[mikejs78]

Adults polls skew left of LV polls. They're unreliable, but the error is always in the same direction. So the effect captured here is likely even more severe among LVs.

I dont think that tells the whole story here. This isn't purely left vs right. Another axis that is different between LVs and Adults is education level. That could also skew things differently here.

 

[Vacationeer]

The poll may be reflecting general negativity about Disney’s greed from many news stories last year. People who don’t know what is going here specifically but reacting to ‘big greedy company’. How many people outside Florida have followed the RCID story?

 

[flyakite]

Orlando Sentinel today:

NOTICE OF MEETING
AMENDED NOTICE - LOCATION CHANGE OF MEETING OF BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
YOU WILL PLEASE TAKE NOTICE that on April 26 th at 9:30 a.m., or as soon thereafter as practicable, the Board of Supervisors of the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District will meet in regular session at The Wyndham Hotel (Horizons ballroom) 1850 Hotel Plaza Boulevard, Lake Buena Vista, Florida. At that time and in addition to other business on the agenda, the Board of Supervisors will conduct a reading and public hearing on and consider for adoption Resolution No. 640. A RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THE CENTRAL FLORIDA TOURIST OVERSIGHT DISTRICT ADOPTING REGULATIONS PROHIBITING COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS AND MANDATES BY BUSINESSES WITHIN THE DISTRICT UPON THEIR CUSTOMERS OR PATRONS AND PROHIBITING COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS AND MANDATES REGARDING THE SERVICES AND OPERATIONS OF THE CENTRAL FLORIDA TOURIST OVERSIGHT DISTRICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, CONFLICTS AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Interested parties may appear at the public meeting and hearing to be heard with respect to the proposed resolutions. If a person decides to appeal any decision made by the Board of Supervisors with respect to any matter considered at such meeting or hearing, he or she will need a record of the proceedings, and that, for such purpose, he or she may need to ensure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made, which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the appeal is to be based.

 

[Patcheslee]

How much money does Disney spend in Florida on film production and would HB7073 (filed yesterday) mess with them? Has to do with eliminating tax exemptions in the film industry.

 

[ParentsOf4]

The poll may be reflecting general negativity about Disney’s greed from many news stories last year. People who don’t know what is going here specifically but reacting to ‘big greedy company’. How many people outside Florida have followed the RCID story?

It could simply be that those of us who post multiple times a day on a Disney fan site are not representative of how the majority of adults feel on this subject.

 

[tissandtully]

How much money does Disney spend in Florida on film production and would HB7073 (filed yesterday) mess with them? Has to do with eliminating tax exemptions in the film industry.

Wow they are really wanting to kill or hamper the Florida economy aren’t they? That’s the only reason films are made in GA, is because of tax breaks. There really isn’t much in Florida, but it’s pretty dumb to stop them.

 

[tissandtully]

How many of those respondents actually understand the situation?

They read a headline, that’s all that matters I guess. If there’s one thing we’ve learned form the last 8 years is that we can always trust polling /s

 

[lentesta]

The poll may be reflecting general negativity about Disney’s greed from many news stories last year. People who don’t know what is going here specifically but reacting to ‘big greedy company’. How many people outside Florida have followed the RCID story?

Our gov't affairs person, who has contacts in Talahassee, says that internal polling commissioned on this issue does not reflect well on the governor or legislature. At both the state and federal level. I suspect the legisislature thinks it's getting close to time to move on to other things.

 

[tissandtully]

Our gov't affairs person, who has contacts in Talahassee, says that internal polling commissioned on this issue does not reflect well on the governor or legislature. At both the state and federal level. I suspect the legisislature thinks it's getting close to time to move on to other things.

If only they had spines…

 

[castlecake2.0]

Orlando Sentinel today:

NOTICE OF MEETING
AMENDED NOTICE - LOCATION CHANGE OF MEETING OF BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
YOU WILL PLEASE TAKE NOTICE that on April 26 th at 9:30 a.m., or as soon thereafter as practicable, the Board of Supervisors of the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District will meet in regular session at The Wyndham Hotel (Horizons ballroom) 1850 Hotel Plaza Boulevard, Lake Buena Vista, Florida. At that time and in addition to other business on the agenda, the Board of Supervisors will conduct a reading and public hearing on and consider for adoption Resolution No. 640. A RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THE CENTRAL FLORIDA TOURIST OVERSIGHT DISTRICT ADOPTING REGULATIONS PROHIBITING COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS AND MANDATES BY BUSINESSES WITHIN THE DISTRICT UPON THEIR CUSTOMERS OR PATRONS AND PROHIBITING COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS AND MANDATES REGARDING THE SERVICES AND OPERATIONS OF THE CENTRAL FLORIDA TOURIST OVERSIGHT DISTRICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, CONFLICTS AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Interested parties may appear at the public meeting and hearing to be heard with respect to the proposed resolutions. If a person decides to appeal any decision made by the Board of Supervisors with respect to any matter considered at such meeting or hearing, he or she will need a record of the proceedings, and that, for such purpose, he or she may need to ensure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made, which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the appeal is to be based.

Who is able to “appeal decisions”?

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

It could simply be that those of us who post multiple times a day on a Disney fan site are not representative of how the majority of adults feel on this subject.

Are you suggesting the majority of adults in America want the government to retaliate against businesses for standing up for the rights of their employees!?

I certainly hope not.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Our gov't affairs person, who has contacts in Talahassee, says that internal polling commissioned on this issue does not reflect well on the governor or legislature. At both the state and federal level. I suspect the legisislature thinks it's getting close to time to move on to other things.

That seems to be the way the winds are blowing…just from a novice view.

They’re literally fighting Mickey Mouse over unrelated things that the majority of the country - especially the educated country - disagrees with.

Tough boxing match to win

 

[flynnibus]

Are you suggesting the majority of adults in America want the government to retaliate against businesses for standing up for the rights of their employees!?

I certainly hope not.

No he’s saying most don’t know the real details

 

[LittleBuford]

Polls of "all adults" are essentially useless.

Scientifically conducted polls, which this appears to be, are not useless; they are, on the contrary, often quite reliable. I see no reason to doubt the data given how ill informed people are on the issue. As we’ve seen repeatedly from what’s posted in this thread, the notion that DeSantis is merely levelling the playing field by depriving Disney of unfair special advantages is very widespread indeed. I’m not the least bit surprised that a good number of Democrats, regardless of how they feel about DeSantis himself, may have subscribed to the view that Disney is finally having to play by the same rules as everyone else.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Scientifically conducted polls, which this appears to be, are not useless; they are, on the contrary, often quite reliable. I see no reason to doubt the data given how ill informed people are on the issue. As we’ve seen repeatedly from what’s posted in this thread, the notion that DeSantis is merely levelling the playing field by depriving Disney of unfair special advantages is very widespread indeed. I’m not the least bit surprised that a good number of Democrats, regardless of how they feel about DeSantis himself. may have subscribed to the view that Disney is finally having to play by the same rules as everyone else.

You’ve missed the problem they’ve had with “polling” the last 20 years or so, huh?