Yes it will be and unfortunately not enough votes in those blue counties to make a change in Talahassee. The legislators are not stupid, they are smart and very vengeful. Looks like the more than dozen or so Reedy Creek admin and their families who live on WDW property in a gated non descrip area across the street from Saratoga Springs will need to look for other housing and perhaps other employment .
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News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District
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DisneyCane
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I understand that completely. In order to achieve these goals, the politicians have armies of consultants and pollsters. If eliminating RCID wasn't calculated to end up with more votes they wouldn't do it. Some number of votes in Osceola and Orange counties would be lost if it increases peoples property taxes. Those votes would need to be made up by people happy that they "stuck it to Disney." There has to be some actual harm done to Disney to point to in order for that to work out.
That's why I'd like to know how doing this will hurt TWDC in practical terms.
peter11435
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You had me until you said they were not stupid. Everything else you said is accurate though.
peter11435
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It will likely benefit TWDC financially.
Let me rephrase - they saw the hatred of people, they are not stupid and took full advantage of the situation.
Cam someone translate?
DisneyCane
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They may be stupid but they aren't stupid politically. Once they get elected they are very good at getting reelected.
It may make things more difficult to approve new construction, but it will also relieve them of the costs of supporting RICD. They will be able to pass those costs to Orange and Oseola county at no additional costs as they already pay taxes to those counties. That’s it, that’s how they’ve been owned.
And they won’t be owned until the bill gets enacted, over a year from now, something I doubt will actually happen either via lawsuit or later legislative action.
You are making stuff up. https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/index.php/faq/parks/recommended-dress/
networkpro
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- In the Parks
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Ms Parton is all about providing economic opportunities that was lacking in the area and she's done very well.
peter11435
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Correct. They are very intelligent when it comes to appealing to their base, manipulating government for their own advantage, and using misdirection and lies to mask their activities and convince their uninformed supporters of whatever they want them to believe.
marymarypoppins
Active Member
You would think the side who is so against the parental rights bill would also be OK with Disney no longer receiving the tax breaks that are associated with this law! I would think the everyone pay more than your share crowd would be giving DeSantis a standing ovation on this one.
peter11435
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RCID does not provide Disney with tax breaks. It’s intent was never to relieve disneys tax burden. If it goes through… dissolving reedy creek will actually cost Disney less money. If it goes through the people paying more will be the people of orange and Osceola counties
What is your point? The poster contended that shirts with political slogans were against the rules. I pointed out that was not true by linking to Disney's dress code.
ParentsOf4
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What others seem to miss it that although Disney pays some tax to Orange County, it’s exempt from most Orange County tax. NBC News explains this:
State Rep. Spencer Roach, a Republican from Southwest Florida who first raised the issue of ending Disney’s taxing district, said the district has allowed the corporation to avoid as much as $200 million in property taxes that Orange and Osceola counties would otherwise collect. He pointed out that other theme parks in the Orlando area already pay property taxes; only Disney is exempt.
RCID is budgeting $164M in 2022, which it collects from the district’s businesses (mostly Disney) and a handful of property owners:
Instead of paying RCID, these businesses and residents would pay their taxes directly to Orange County.
There’s a gap between what Disney currently pays to RCID (i.e. most of the $164M) and what Orange County potentially could collect ($200M per the NBC News article). Potentially, Disney could see a tax increase.
Disney controls RCID. Through its selection of RCID Board of Supervisors (for example, the board head, Donald R. Greer, has been there for decades), Disney decides who sits on the board and effectively controls how much is budgeted for roads and services.
Long term, the loss of RCID would mean that Orange County would set the tax rate for Disney (as it does for all businesses within the county). Orange County has to be fair; it can't "screw" Disney. However, the loss of RCID would mean that Disney would no longer control its own tax rate. Presumably, RCID is run more efficiently than Orange County, so Orange County probably will end up charging more in taxes than RCID.
Disney is not going to eat any potential tax increase. Instead, anyone who vacations at WDW will in the form of higher prices.
lazyboy97o
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Then surely you can give specific examples of these burdensome regulations. You can provide examples of how corruptions and red tape have slowed down South Campus.
Casper Gutman
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Please provide some examples outside of Chapek's recent comments of Disney "constantly pushing woke culture and shoving left wing activism down people's throats." I'm really curious.
lazyboy97o
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Disney would lose control. You just have to look at how the legislation is being discussed to realize that research wasn’t really done how the District operates.
marymarypoppins
Active Member
Your wrong on that but OK
"Beyond a loss of control, the repeal of the Act (and destruction of the RCID) would mean that Disney would have to pay fees and taxes it doesn’t currently pay. For example, without the RCID, Disney would have to pay impact fees to Orange and Osceola counties. These are one-time payments that developers make to “offset the cost of public services like roads.” Under the RCID, Disney doesn’t have to pay impact fees. (Orlando Sentinel)"