News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[LAKid53]

Two weeks is a long time in legislative land (having worked for the US House I have some experience in this). However the resign to run thing is a relatively uncomplicated piece of legislation and the fact that it hasn’t made it out of a filed she’ll bill with two weeks to go in the session is somewhat concerning.

There are some thoughts that the bill isn’t needed, but most legal scholars disagree. Either way it will be interesting to see. As someone who thought DeSantis could be the reasonable alternative to Trump I’m shocked at how he’s played this. He looks like a fool and an obsessed crazy man. This is turning into his “Dean Scream” moment and he doesn’t realize it.

In 2018, under SB 186, the Legislature made it pretty clear that the offices of POTUS and VPOTUS were included in "federal office". Then Governor Scott signed it into law on March 30, 2018.

That being said, there's a shell bill in the Senate, SB 7050 that is serving as a placeholder of sorts for any election related actions. However, Senate President Passidomo has said she doesn't believe it will include language to amend or abolish Section 99.012(2).

 

[LAKid53]

They seem to be true believers.

And the Legislature has moved pretty fast to push legislation through both chambers to overturn the Agreement, even after being warned their actions may be unconstitutional.

 

[LAKid53]

Good news for those of you who live in FL. Maybe they can focus on some of the real problems now.

Yeah, right....

 

[LAKid53]

Is this maybe why they had State Reps for whomever oversees food inspections, transportation, ect. ? They seemed to each discuss at least 1 instance of how the agreement negatively effects them or the public. I'd have to go back through and listen again.

Can you expand on this? The county health departments handle food inspections and any ride inspections would be conducted by employees working for the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services (DACS).

 

[LAKid53]

Yeah....wishful thinking

If the legislature is serious they have an easy way to get rid of Ronnie boy….don’t amend the bill that’s on the books and force him to resign once he declares his campaign.

Well, SB 186 contained this little zinger that is now part of Section 99.012...

"(f)1. The failure of an officer who qualifies for federal public office to submit a resignation pursuant to this subsection constitutes an automatic irrevocable resignation, effective immediately, from the office he or she presently holds."

 

[Kamikaze]

Can you expand on this? The county health departments handle food inspections and any ride inspections would be conducted by employees working for the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services (DACS).

I'd love to see how a state employee would get experience on how exactly to determine if something like RotR is safe.

 

[LAKid53]

‘Deeply frustrated': Florida legislators worn out by DeSantis

Floridians: "Then pass a budget and go home."

 

[LAKid53]

Always a special session to finish the actually important things

The only thing the Legislature is required by the Florida Constitution to do. At some point, Floridians have to realize these special sessions cost them, the taxpayers, hundreds of thousands of dollars.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The only thing the Legislature is required by the Florida Constitution to do. At some point, Floridians have to realize these special sessions cost them, the taxpayers, hundreds of thousands of dollars.

You what would cost them billions of dollars annually?

Messing with the operators of their primary industry…by far

 

[LAKid53]

Maybe so. But until they do it would be odd for Disney to sue. Right now they are sitting on a legally executed contract. The board or the Governor declaring the contract void has no legal basis. It’s just PR spin. Gov is getting killed for being outplayed and wants the spin to be he killed the deal.

The Legislature will be handing Disney its lawsuit. Both SB 1604 and HB 439 contain language that would allow the OCTOD Board to retroactively invalidate the Agreement.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Anyone that didn’t see this coming should frankly not be allowed to have a bank account or a credit card…for their own safety

…so no annual pass then

 

[tissandtully]

Floridians: "Then pass a budget and go home."

Meanwhile there’s still a fuel shortage in Ft. Lauderdale

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Meanwhile there’s still a fuel shortage in Ft. Lauderdale

But how will they get the gas for their Yukon to drive to Orlando and use their annual pass?

 

[mkt]

But how will they get the gas for their Yukon to drive to Orlando and use their annual pass?

*laughs in electric car owner*

 

[Surferboy567]

So…are they going to take action before things get even worse? Was expecting a speedy response from Disney. Surely they aren’t planning to roll over and take this like they have in the past with the initial bill.

Better to stop them now from making sweeping changes putting their business in danger.

 

[LAKid53]

I'd love to see how a state employee would get experience on how exactly to determine if something like RotR is safe.

The position description would include language requiring the person occupying the position have a specific degree and experience.

But yes, it's ludicrous to think a state inspector from DACS is more qualified to inspect rides at either WDW or Uni than the Imagineers who designed and installed them.

One has to wonder if a DACS inspector missed the improper modifications to the seat that Tyre Sampson occupied on the Freefall ride that allow the teenager to exceed the ride's weight limit. Manual adjustments had been made to two seats on the ride, which allowed for a greater gap than normal between the harness and the seat. "The cause of the subject accident was that Tyre Sampson was not properly secured in the seat primarily due to mis-adjustment of the harness proximity sensor," the engineering firm hired to investigate the teenager's death stated.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

So…are they going to take action before things get even worse? Was expecting a speedy response from Disney. Surely they aren’t planning to roll over and take this like they have in the past with the initial bill.

Better to stop them now from making sweeping changes putting their business in danger.

Take action? It’s over.

The minute this started…it’s a disaster/loser for everyone.

The reason the story of Pandora’s box is important is because you NEVER should take the lid off

 

[Surferboy567]

Take action? It’s over.

The minute this started…it’s a disaster/loser for everyone.

The reason the story of Pandora’s box is important is because you NEVER should take the lid off

This is far from over.

Why would Disney roll over and take this they have many grievances they can take up with the courts.

 

[LAKid53]

The difference is the Disney contract itself was not illegal. If there’s something in the contract that a court rules is illegal (like the fraud you describe) then the contract could be ruled void. Maybe in this case the fraud would be the self dealing approach the state is floating out there. A judge would have to decide that.

The failure to provide notice is a procedural violation on the government’s part (RCID being the government in this case). In normal world (not where we are with this) if a government signs an agreement like this and a landowner who didn’t receive proper notice objects and sues the remedy is that they make the government board listen to the person’s objection and then re-vote on the contract. Just because someone objects doesn‘t mean the board can‘t still approve the contract anyway and it doesn’t mean the contract is automatically void.

So in this case if there was not proper notice given to landowners who could be impacted and if one of the landowners comes forward with a valid objection then a judge would most likely rule the current board would need to hear that objection and then re-vote on the contract which we all know will result in a no.

If there's a section in the Agreement a court would deem improper or illegal, the court can void that portion of the agreement, rather than voiding the entire thing. That is, unless voiding that part makes the Agreement in its entirety ineffective.

 

[mkt]

So if you are Disney legal where do you go from here?

You do what your bosses tell you to do.