News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The only thing the Legislature is required by the Florida Constitution to do. At some point, Floridians have to realize these special sessions cost them, the taxpayers, hundreds of thousands of dollars.

You what would cost them billions of dollars annually?

Messing with the operators of their primary industry…by far

 

[LAKid53]

Maybe so. But until they do it would be odd for Disney to sue. Right now they are sitting on a legally executed contract. The board or the Governor declaring the contract void has no legal basis. It’s just PR spin. Gov is getting killed for being outplayed and wants the spin to be he killed the deal.

The Legislature will be handing Disney its lawsuit. Both SB 1604 and HB 439 contain language that would allow the OCTOD Board to retroactively invalidate the Agreement.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Anyone that didn’t see this coming should frankly not be allowed to have a bank account or a credit card…for their own safety

…so no annual pass then

 

[tissandtully]

Floridians: "Then pass a budget and go home."

Meanwhile there’s still a fuel shortage in Ft. Lauderdale

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Meanwhile there’s still a fuel shortage in Ft. Lauderdale

But how will they get the gas for their Yukon to drive to Orlando and use their annual pass?

 

[mkt]

But how will they get the gas for their Yukon to drive to Orlando and use their annual pass?

*laughs in electric car owner*

 

[Surferboy567]

So…are they going to take action before things get even worse? Was expecting a speedy response from Disney. Surely they aren’t planning to roll over and take this like they have in the past with the initial bill.

Better to stop them now from making sweeping changes putting their business in danger.

 

[LAKid53]

I'd love to see how a state employee would get experience on how exactly to determine if something like RotR is safe.

The position description would include language requiring the person occupying the position have a specific degree and experience.

But yes, it's ludicrous to think a state inspector from DACS is more qualified to inspect rides at either WDW or Uni than the Imagineers who designed and installed them.

One has to wonder if a DACS inspector missed the improper modifications to the seat that Tyre Sampson occupied on the Freefall ride that allow the teenager to exceed the ride's weight limit. Manual adjustments had been made to two seats on the ride, which allowed for a greater gap than normal between the harness and the seat. "The cause of the subject accident was that Tyre Sampson was not properly secured in the seat primarily due to mis-adjustment of the harness proximity sensor," the engineering firm hired to investigate the teenager's death stated.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

So…are they going to take action before things get even worse? Was expecting a speedy response from Disney. Surely they aren’t planning to roll over and take this like they have in the past with the initial bill.

Better to stop them now from making sweeping changes putting their business in danger.

Take action? It’s over.

The minute this started…it’s a disaster/loser for everyone.

The reason the story of Pandora’s box is important is because you NEVER should take the lid off

 

[Surferboy567]

Take action? It’s over.

The minute this started…it’s a disaster/loser for everyone.

The reason the story of Pandora’s box is important is because you NEVER should take the lid off

This is far from over.

Why would Disney roll over and take this they have many grievances they can take up with the courts.

 

[LAKid53]

The difference is the Disney contract itself was not illegal. If there’s something in the contract that a court rules is illegal (like the fraud you describe) then the contract could be ruled void. Maybe in this case the fraud would be the self dealing approach the state is floating out there. A judge would have to decide that.

The failure to provide notice is a procedural violation on the government’s part (RCID being the government in this case). In normal world (not where we are with this) if a government signs an agreement like this and a landowner who didn’t receive proper notice objects and sues the remedy is that they make the government board listen to the person’s objection and then re-vote on the contract. Just because someone objects doesn‘t mean the board can‘t still approve the contract anyway and it doesn’t mean the contract is automatically void.

So in this case if there was not proper notice given to landowners who could be impacted and if one of the landowners comes forward with a valid objection then a judge would most likely rule the current board would need to hear that objection and then re-vote on the contract which we all know will result in a no.

If there's a section in the Agreement a court would deem improper or illegal, the court can void that portion of the agreement, rather than voiding the entire thing. That is, unless voiding that part makes the Agreement in its entirety ineffective.

 

[mkt]

So if you are Disney legal where do you go from here?

You do what your bosses tell you to do.

 

[LAKid53]

Meanwhile there’s still a fuel shortage in Ft. Lauderdale

I saw that. Same in Miami.

The historic Ft. Lauderdale City Hall has been so damaged by floodwaters it is unsafe to occupy.

 

[mkt]

…liar

You were in the annual pass lightning lane

We planned on it.

But we decided the $1300 to upgrade two Pirate Passes to Incredipasses would be better spent on airfare to Europe for 3 people.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I saw that. Same in Miami.

The historic Ft. Lauderdale City Hall has been so damaged by floodwaters it is unsafe to occupy.

….pssst…Miami and Ft. Lauderdale are the same place

 

[el_super]

This is far from over.

Why would Disney roll over and take this they have many grievances they can take up with the courts.

Because they want this out of the news as soon as possible.

Disney does not like going to court. If the other news of this week wasn't a tip off: no matter how right you are morally, or what kind of rock-hard solid legal case you might have, you always try to settle to avoid going to court.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Because they want this out of the news as soon as possible.

Disney does not like going to court. If the other news of this week wasn't a tip off: no matter how right you are morally, or what kind of rock-hard solid legal case you might have, you always try to settle to avoid going to court.

That's the playbook when you're judging the cost of going to trial is more than any award you might get.

Or if you want to avoid harsher jail time.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

That's the playbook when you're judging the cost of going to trial is more than any award you might get.

Or if you want to avoid harsher jail time.

And yet, they're not.

What's your theory?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

If the other news of this week wasn't a tip off: no matter how right you are morally, or what kind of rock-hard solid legal case you might have, you always try to settle to avoid going to court.

 

[MisterPenguin]

And yet, they're not.

What's your theory?

They're waiting for Gov and Friends to actually do something that would be deemed illegal rather than just say it. Immediate injunction time.

Until they act illegally, Gov and Gang can claim First Amendment rights to just sound off with hyperbole. And such political speech tends to get a pass by SCOTUS.

And the longer they can string this out, the better for Gov to be gone campaigning for Prez or term-limited. Which means holding off legal suits until the bitter end and until absolutely needed.