peter11435
Well-Known Member
Roads inside resorts and a few other specific roadways are privateMy understanding that the only private roads on property are those that lead directly into a park.
Roads inside resorts and a few other specific roadways are privateMy understanding that the only private roads on property are those that lead directly into a park.
No, I'm not suggesting that at all.
I'm saying, as far as I know, Disney does not pay property taxes on property they don't own so roads owned and maintained by RCID, I do not believe Disney is paying property taxes for. Those giant parking garages next to Disney Springs? As far as I know, Disney isn't paying property taxes for them, either.
Westshore Mall in Tampa has a parking garage. I'm pretty sure they pay property taxes for it... because they own it.
I'm pretty sure Disney hadn't had RCIP, they'd own their Disney Springs parking garages and the land they sit on, too.
One can be concerned with both.I would be more concerned about the morality of government retribution. If there were issues with RCID, they should have been identified and dealt with independently of a totally unrelated ideological assault.
You don’t even have to leave your living room. Just change the address on your browser.It shouldn't be too difficult to go to the Orange County Tax Collector's office website and see what parcels TWDC is being taxed on. It's public record.
So you're saying... the City of Orlando pays property taxes to Orange County for all public land owned by the City of Orlando?
Or are you saying there is some exclusive arrangement with RCID where they payed property taxes to counties for land they owned?
I just want to make sure I understand you, here.
Is RCID a government entity that owns land?Government owned land in Florida isn't subjected to property tax. So no.
As I've said elsewhere, my primary objection is not to the existence of the district per se, it's to Disney's perpetual control of the district.
I understand that the district was a government body and that it was created through proper legislative means. I'm not questioning the legality. I'm questioning the morality of such a body being wholly controlled by a for-profit enterprise.
Yes, but one is a matter of personal preference whereas the other has significant legal and constitutional implications. I guess I’m just confused as to why you seem more concerned with the former.One can be concerned with both.
Really? So your understanding of how things work is based on what if not easily available information?It would be interesting to see a map which detailed which roads in the resort area were owned by Disney and which were owned and maintained by Reedy Creek. My understanding is that a lot of the roads that people assume are owned by Disney aren't actually owned or maintained by Disney.
Any idea when this site started? Had not seen it before.Disney has launched a website that essentially highlights the contributions the company makes to Central Florida and Florida as a whole. There’s also a section that talks about the Reedy Creek situation.
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Disney in Florida
At Walt Disney World Resort we are honored to be part of the Central Florida community. Explore how we create a brighter future for our region.disneyconnect.com
Reedy Creek situation:
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Reedy Creek: The Facts You Need in 2024 - Disney in Florida
What is Reedy Creek – Central Florida Tourism Oversight District The Central Florida Tourism Oversight District (formerly known as Reedy Creek Improvement District or RCID) is a special taxing district that was established by the Florida State Legislature in 1967 to provide and manage municipal...disneyconnect.com
It's been around for about a year.Any idea when this site started? Had not seen it before.
Not entirely sure. It appears to be fairly new or at least updated recently with more information.Any idea when this site started? Had not seen it before.
LAKid53
Because you keep quoting without actually posting anything, I can't respond directly to you so...
Do you not see what I said? DISNEY would not have been able to issue government bonds.
We agree on this, right?
Disney can't issue government bonds but RCID could?
Right?
So if Disney owns the land and wants to build the garages, they can't issue bonds.
But if Disney owns the land and transfers ownership to RCID, RCID can issue bonds, right?
How did RCID get the land that it owns?
You seem too smart for me to have to spell out what I'm saying, in such simple terms.
Again, I'm not against any of this. I disagree with Captain's take but I'm not pretending I don't understand what he's saying, either.
Is RCID a government entity that owns land?
Domain was registered in 2006, earliest Internet Wayback Machine entry is April 7 2022Any idea when this site started? Had not seen it before.
It should be pretty easy to establish whether or not they were mailed the development agreement that was voted on in January and February of this year.You said "Disney would not have been able to issue municipal bonds". Even WITH the existence of RCID, TWDC couldn't issue municipal bonds.
List of land owners from a May 2021 RCID Board meeting...
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None of the land owners that are governmental bodies would pay property taxes, including RCID.
The State of Florida doesn't pay property taxes to Leon County on all the land it owns in the county.
Gated communities by their very nature have private roads. WDW isn't a gated community.
Congratulations!You said "Disney would not have been able to issue municipal bonds". Even WITH the existence of RCID, TWDC couldn't issue municipal bonds.
List of land owners from a May 2021 RCID Board meeting...
View attachment 710953
None of the land owners that are governmental bodies would pay property taxes, including RCID.
The State of Florida doesn't pay property taxes to Leon County on all the land it owns in the county.
It should be pretty easy to establish whether or not they were mailed the development agreement that was voted on in January and February of this year.
You said "Disney would not have been able to issue municipal bonds". Even WITH the existence of RCID, TWDC couldn't issue municipal bonds.
List of land owners from a May 2021 RCID Board meeting...
View attachment 710953
None of the land owners that are governmental bodies would pay property taxes, including RCID.
The State of Florida doesn't pay property taxes to Leon County on all the land it owns in the county.
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