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Wendy Pleakley

Wendy Pleakley

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Creathir said:
One has to assume DeSantis truly believes what he claims that he does.

If that is the case, I’m not sure it is totally driven by a desire for increased power.

If he truly feels children’s lives are at risk by being taught about sexual matters before the 3rd grade, and a major company in the state is actively attacking / pushing against his view that it’s dangerous, then it is only natural for him to react the way he has.

Compounded with the snarky response of the company and the legions of defenders of it, one can see how it would only lead to further tensions.

Is DeSantis innocent here? Absolutely not, but neither is Disney. They are just as much culpable in regards to what has happened to this point as he is.
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That legislation was solely designed to target a minority group, something the fascists behind it openly admitted.

As has been pointed out many many many times, Disney is innocent here. Speech is protected. Government retaliation is illegal.

Stop trying to 'both sides' this.
 
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MandaM

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Creathir said:
One has to assume DeSantis truly believes what he claims that he does.

If that is the case, I’m not sure it is totally driven by a desire for increased power.

If he truly feels children’s lives are at risk by being taught about sexual matters before the 3rd grade, and a major company in the state is actively attacking / pushing against his view that it’s dangerous, then it is only natural for him to react the way he has.

Compounded with the snarky response of the company and the legions of defenders of it, one can see how it would only lead to further tensions.

Is DeSantis innocent here? Absolutely not, but neither is Disney. They are just as much culpable in regards to what has happened to this point as he is.
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Disney disagreed with a law that, contrary to your spin, was solely designed to demonize a particular marginalized community. Disney was entirely within their 1st amendment rights to disagree. DeSantis’ retaliating for criticism is unconstitutional.

What part of the lies that DeSantis is spewing today do you think he actually believes? Does he actually think Disney is engaged in human trafficking? Nobody is stupid enough to believe that. He knows Disney pays their taxes. He knows Disney is safe. It’s astonishing watching Americans support blatant fascism.
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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Some of what was said today was so over the top insane that I honestly wonder if he's intentionally trying to force Disney to bring a lawsuit he knows Florida will lose.

He has to know this isn't good for the state of Florida in general (in terms of tourism or general business friendliness), but he refuses to back down, so if he loses in a lawsuit the general business fear for Florida will go away but DeSantis will still be able to crow about what he did to his base, and it was just the courts who stepped in to stop it. He didn't back down.
 
tissandtully

tissandtully

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Wendy Pleakley said:
That legislation was solely designed to target a minority group, something the fascists behind it openly admitted.

As has been pointed out many many many times, Disney is innocent here. Speech is protected. Government retaliation is illegal.

Stop trying to 'both sides' this.
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It was also a vaguely written law which no one knew how to enforce and we see that playing out now with all the school systems taking all the books out of Iibraries just to be safe. Also not to mention this law wasn’t even needed! Sexual instruction has been heavily regulated in Florida schools for many years. It was a law created for a nonexistent issue to target a certain group.
 
MagicHappens1971

MagicHappens1971

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UNCgolf said:
Some of what was said today was so over the top insane that I honestly wonder if he's intentionally trying to force Disney into a lawsuit he knows Florida will lose.

He has to know this isn't good for the state of Florida in general (in terms of tourism or general business friendliness), but he refuses to back down, so if he loses in a lawsuit the general business fear for Florida will go away but DeSantis will still be able to crow about what he did and it was just the courts who stepped in to stop it.
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You're right that he will blame the courts, but I really am just wondering why he's continuing to fight something that he may lose. He should've taken the political capital he scored with his base by "shutting down Woke Disney" and then moved on. Now he's going to tweet and twaddle about this while attempting to run for president.
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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Wendy Pleakley said:
That legislation was solely designed to target a minority group, something the fascists behind it openly admitted.

As has been pointed out many many many times, Disney is innocent here. Speech is protected. Government retaliation is illegal.

Stop trying to 'both sides' this.
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This part doesn't even really matter. Disney could have come out supporting legislation to legalize murder, and this whole scenario would still be a retaliatory abuse of government power. They have the right to support whatever they want politically without fear of government retaliation.
 
kong1802

kong1802

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MagicHappens1971 said:
You're right that he will blame the courts, but I really am just wondering why he's continuing to fight something that he may lose. He should've taken the political capital he scored with his base by "shutting down Woke Disney" and then moved on. Now he's going to tweet and twaddle about this while attempting to run for president.
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If he let's this go he might have to start answering tougher questions about real issues.

Probably thinks its better to keep fighting this super important "woke Disney" battle than actually govern.
 
kong1802

kong1802

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Wendy Pleakley said:
That legislation was solely designed to target a minority group, something the fascists behind it openly admitted.

As has been pointed out many many many times, Disney is innocent here. Speech is protected. Government retaliation is illegal.

Stop trying to 'both sides' this.
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Exactly. There is nothing "natural" about retaliating against free speech.

The only thing here that is natural is abuse of power.
 
Dranth

Dranth

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Creathir said:
One has to assume DeSantis truly believes what he claims that he does.

If that is the case, I’m not sure it is totally driven by a desire for increased power.

If he truly feels children’s lives are at risk by being taught about sexual matters before the 3rd grade, and a major company in the state is actively attacking / pushing against his view that it’s dangerous, then it is only natural for him to react the way he has.

Compounded with the snarky response of the company and the legions of defenders of it, one can see how it would only lead to further tensions.

Is DeSantis innocent here? Absolutely not, but neither is Disney. They are just as much culpable in regards to what has happened to this point as he is.
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Nope. Not even remotely. Disney did something LEGAL. It does not matter if the Governor likes it or not. There is no both sides here. Free speech is just that, free from government oversight/retaliation. Not free only when you agree with it, not free only when the majority like it, free. All the time. Period.
 
Mr. Stay Puft

Mr. Stay Puft

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Creathir said:
One has to assume DeSantis truly believes what he claims that he does.

If that is the case, I’m not sure it is totally driven by a desire for increased power.

If he truly feels children’s lives are at risk by being taught about sexual matters before the 3rd grade, and a major company in the state is actively attacking / pushing against his view that it’s dangerous, then it is only natural for him to react the way he has.

Compounded with the snarky response of the company and the legions of defenders of it, one can see how it would only lead to further tensions.

Is DeSantis innocent here? Absolutely not, but neither is Disney. They are just as much culpable in regards to what has happened to this point as he is.
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Even that were the case, the state has NO RIGHT to punish a company because of their values and ideology. The state is trying to FORCE Disney to comply with ITS VALUES.

I don't care if it's Republicans doing this to Disney for being socially liberal, or Democrats doing this to Hobby Lobby for being socially conservative. You cannot allow a dangerous precedent like this to proceed.

These are extremely dangerous retaliatory actions DeSantis, the legislature, and his appointed board are looking to take here. It's absolutely frightening if this is allowed to continue by the courts. Its not just Disney, this could apply to ANY business or individual who disagrees or does not align with the state's political leadership and their views/values.
 
mf1972

mf1972

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when disney’s lawyers start piling on the lawsuits…
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