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News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District
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Wendy Pleakley
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Threatening to build a prison is such theatrical nonsense. Even if it happened, the only downside would be if was super tall or something and somehow interfered with sightlines.
It wouldn't have impact any more than a Haunted Mansion show building we never see.
If the threat is, ooh, dangerous prisoners, again it's a non-issue. To paraphrase the great George Carlin, there's no danger being next to a prison. If someone breaks out, they are not hanging around. They are out of there. We're not going to see some violent offender in an orange jumpsuit stroll into Epcot.
It wouldn't have impact any more than a Haunted Mansion show building we never see.
If the threat is, ooh, dangerous prisoners, again it's a non-issue. To paraphrase the great George Carlin, there's no danger being next to a prison. If someone breaks out, they are not hanging around. They are out of there. We're not going to see some violent offender in an orange jumpsuit stroll into Epcot.
Vegas Disney Fan
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In most hot topic issues I believe this, the opposing sides both truly believe they are doing the right thing… but DeSantis has repeatedly said this is about retaliation, this isn’t about protecting kids, it’s about harming Disney for daring to oppose HIM.
This is about HIM and nothing else.
lazyboy97o
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The municipalities create issues. That was part of the problem with dissolution. The counties had no way of just taxing Disney because they can only create districts over unincorporated land.
UNCgolf
Well-Known Member
There is no equal culpability here, because DeSantis is the government in this scenario. The government should never have the right to punish individuals (and corporations have legal status as an individual) over political choices. There's little difference between this and the state government repossessing your house because you made political donations to the opposing party.
If DeSantis was a private citizen using his money to fund opposition to Disney, then sure. No issues there.
MagicHappens1971
Well-Known Member
One does not.
Wendy Pleakley
Well-Known Member
That legislation was solely designed to target a minority group, something the fascists behind it openly admitted.
As has been pointed out many many many times, Disney is innocent here. Speech is protected. Government retaliation is illegal.
Stop trying to 'both sides' this.
Disney disagreed with a law that, contrary to your spin, was solely designed to demonize a particular marginalized community. Disney was entirely within their 1st amendment rights to disagree. DeSantis’ retaliating for criticism is unconstitutional.
What part of the lies that DeSantis is spewing today do you think he actually believes? Does he actually think Disney is engaged in human trafficking? Nobody is stupid enough to believe that. He knows Disney pays their taxes. He knows Disney is safe. It’s astonishing watching Americans support blatant fascism.
UNCgolf
Well-Known Member
Some of what was said today was so over the top insane that I honestly wonder if he's intentionally trying to force Disney to bring a lawsuit he knows Florida will lose.
He has to know this isn't good for the state of Florida in general (in terms of tourism or general business friendliness), but he refuses to back down, so if he loses in a lawsuit the general business fear for Florida will go away but DeSantis will still be able to crow about what he did to his base, and it was just the courts who stepped in to stop it. He didn't back down.
He has to know this isn't good for the state of Florida in general (in terms of tourism or general business friendliness), but he refuses to back down, so if he loses in a lawsuit the general business fear for Florida will go away but DeSantis will still be able to crow about what he did to his base, and it was just the courts who stepped in to stop it. He didn't back down.
tissandtully
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It was also a vaguely written law which no one knew how to enforce and we see that playing out now with all the school systems taking all the books out of Iibraries just to be safe. Also not to mention this law wasn’t even needed! Sexual instruction has been heavily regulated in Florida schools for many years. It was a law created for a nonexistent issue to target a certain group.
MagicHappens1971
Well-Known Member
You're right that he will blame the courts, but I really am just wondering why he's continuing to fight something that he may lose. He should've taken the political capital he scored with his base by "shutting down Woke Disney" and then moved on. Now he's going to tweet and twaddle about this while attempting to run for president.
Don't know if was posted or not, but what the heck, a second time never hurts.
The RCID BOS page has an updated agenda for the meeting on Wednesday. It was updated today prior to the press conference.
Link to the BOS package for April 19: https://www.rcid.org/document/4-19-23-bos-meeting-package/
The RCID BOS page has an updated agenda for the meeting on Wednesday. It was updated today prior to the press conference.
Link to the BOS package for April 19: https://www.rcid.org/document/4-19-23-bos-meeting-package/
UNCgolf
Well-Known Member
This part doesn't even really matter. Disney could have come out supporting legislation to legalize murder, and this whole scenario would still be a retaliatory abuse of government power. They have the right to support whatever they want politically without fear of government retaliation.
kong1802
Well-Known Member
If he let's this go he might have to start answering tougher questions about real issues.
Probably thinks its better to keep fighting this super important "woke Disney" battle than actually govern.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Only if you don't believe in the bill of rights... but we've been over that.
Maybe the supposedly state prison built next to WDW will have some Disney magic touches like the Celebration hospital with its hidden mickeys, character paintings on walls , mickey and minnie kids play area in the ER etc. Will Mickey and Minnie have meet and greets with the inmates?
kong1802
Well-Known Member
Exactly. There is nothing "natural" about retaliating against free speech.
The only thing here that is natural is abuse of power.
Dranth
Well-Known Member
Nope. Not even remotely. Disney did something LEGAL. It does not matter if the Governor likes it or not. There is no both sides here. Free speech is just that, free from government oversight/retaliation. Not free only when you agree with it, not free only when the majority like it, free. All the time. Period.