lazyboy97o
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It’ll depend on how it is done. A power the district gained in its reconstitution was the authority to create such regulations.
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News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District
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Vegas Disney Fan
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The ironic part is most of this would be considered reasonable if it was being done for valid reasons and the board was being set up with experts in the field rather than people hand picked for political retaliation.
Boeing used to certify their own planes and that worked pretty flawlessly for decades, until the 737 max, and then everyone was surprised there was no gov oversight, adding a layer of oversight can be a good thing, if it’s being done for a public benefit.
If Florida was adding ride inspections for additional safety it would be 100% reasonable, the same would have been true for changing RCID, had they done it for valid oversight reasons it would have been reasonable.
The fact it’s all being done for political reasons, rather than public benefit, makes it 100% wrong though.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Florida already has oversight of amusement rides -- the difference is only in WHO does the work... not what they do, or what the minimums they must do.
The crux here is with the new district, just like Disney had the power to do more than the state required, the new district could require far more stringent things than the state (or Disney) does.
The crux here is with the new district, just like Disney had the power to do more than the state required, the new district could require far more stringent things than the state (or Disney) does.
tissandtully
Well-Known Member
By the same folks who couldn’t be bothered to attend a public meeting. I do not want these unserious people checking safety on complicated attractions.
zakattack99
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
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I could see them making changes so that Dept. of Ag HAS to inspect the big parks but fails to give DoA authority to do anything with what they find. Ron would be able to send DoA in to scrutinize every little detail write up a whole report saying how they have all these problems, most of the "problems" being due to grandfathering of safety and building standards over the last 50 years. It would gives Ron the opportunity to grandstand and say why the state needs to take over. Short term win for him a black eye for Disney because EVERY news outlet is going to run the story that DISNEY WORLD IS UNSAFE. Long term it probably backfires as it adds ammo to Disney's legal case that they are having their rights violated and the government is retaliating against them, if this is in fact Disney's plan.
It's not like Disney would stop self inspecting. The concern isn't that rides would be less safe with a different inspector, since Disney has plenty of aligned reasons to keep things safe. The concern is that the new process would be used to create random overhead and operational problems to incentivize behavior in other areas.
For a second, pretend this happens, even if the "unsafe" things are not really unsafe. Unlike random political leanings that do not seem to impact how people spend money, hearing something is "unsafe" is much more likely to impact behaviors.
If 5% of Disney guests decide that Disney is "unsafe" based on this, what's the knock on impact to the rest of FL?
If they all change plans and go to Universal instead, that's a big win for Universal and probably very little impact to FL.
If they all change plans and go to some other destination not in FL, that a loss of all the tourist taxes, extra spending, support spending, general hit to the local economy.
The "long term" impact would depend on how fast any changes happen and how large that percentage is. If 5% of planned Disney visitors coming after July 1 all disappeared, that's going to hit the news right away. If it takes 12 or 18 months to get to 5% then less so, it'll be late enough that Ron doesn't have to care about the FL impact. If it's only 1% that change, then there isn't likely a measurable imapct.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
You are more optimistic than I am on this. The ride inspection process works well now. I feel safe. I don’t want to see an unqualified board take ownership of ride safety. I have been saying since day 1 that I wouldn’t stop visiting FL or WDW over this feud, but if they really take this action I’d have to think long and hard about returning to WDW. I am not planning a visit this year anyway so I have some time to consider but I can get my Disney fix out in CA if I need to.
I hear he was late on Genie+ this morning and couldn't get a ILL for the Reedy Creek building until 1pm.
tissandtully
Well-Known Member
when it pays to be woke-n up in the morning
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Regulatory inspections are intermittent. They occur over different periods of time.
Ride systems though have a much more intense maintenance schedule. Different components are on different schedules per the manufacturer. Some of these items are required to be reviewed daily.
There is almost no scenario where regulatory inspections completely supersede park inspections. Even in California, day-to-day operations and safety is still the responsibility of the parks.
Ride systems though have a much more intense maintenance schedule. Different components are on different schedules per the manufacturer. Some of these items are required to be reviewed daily.
There is almost no scenario where regulatory inspections completely supersede park inspections. Even in California, day-to-day operations and safety is still the responsibility of the parks.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
This makes me feel a little better but I still feel like messing with ride inspections in any capacity is a pathetic move.
ctrlaltdel
Well-Known Member
This probably won't sink him in the primaries (his inability to actually attack Trump will do him in there), but it is more and more looking like a complete waste of time investment and an embarrassment on all levels. Normal people don't care about this and just think its weird he's continuing to pick a fight with Disney. He can't take an L.
Brian
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For those interested in the authority the state is claiming to void Disney's agreement with then-RCID, please see below:
Source: https://flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2022/163.3241
Source: https://flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2022/163.3241
Overlordkitty
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That's the scarier part, the number of people that love this