News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[mikejs78]

As stated, the body that makes the policies is not the policies themselves. If this were the case then the agreement would not have survived dissolution.

This prevents the board from doing something like rezoning Wide World of Sports as single family residential or requiring all projects to go through public development review.

One change that the new board is proposing is that there is no more right to appeal, which may in fact represent a change in policy.

 

[lazyboy97o]

One change that the new board is proposing is that there is no more right to appeal, which may in fact represent a change in policy.

Appeals went to the Board of Supervisors. Kind of odd to appeal to the same body.

And what would they be appealing? Decisions are now shaped by the development agreement. Something would first have come before the board for a decision and it would have to be something not guided by the agreement. If it’s a matter guided by the agreement it can be brought to court.

 

[GoofGoof]

I think Iger will have one of his lieutenants, possibly Josh D’Amaro, call DeSantis to de-escalate this. Chapek will get thrown under the bus and both sides will agree to move on.

If the reporting at the time was accurate this already occurred once. Members of the legislature commented that Iger had worked out some sort of compromise both sides were OK with but when the press started covering it as the Governor walking back his attack he was triggered and then doubled down. I don’t think both sides will completely move on until there’s a new Governor and even then it depends on who that is.

 

[Chi84]

This was the exact wording from the public records request:

“Please limit your search to documents discussing an intention or goal of circumventing, avoiding, frustrating, mitigating or otherwise attempting to avoid the effects of anticipated actions by the Florida governor and the Florida Legislature,” James Percival, Moody’s chief of staff, wrote in a public records request filed with the district on Thursday.

So based on what was actually requested nothing was found. They did not ask for any written communication on the contract but if they did there would at a minimum be the forwarding of the contract to the board to be read publicly (twice) and debated.

This is the wording you use when you’re seeking publicity for your actions, not when you’re actually seeking documents.

 

[flynnibus]

Appeals went to the Board of Supervisors. Kind of odd to appeal to the same body.

this...

 

[GoofGoof]

This is the wording you use when you’re seeking publicity for your actions, not when you’re actually seeking documents.

True. I think they were also careful to not make the request too broad (like asking for all communications) for fear that the request would actually show that everything was done by the book and done legally. This request asked specifically for “the smoking gun” that fraud occurred. I’m sure they would be happy if it was found, but it wasn’t, so now the spin is a lack of evidence just means it was destroyed and/or covered up. So for people on the Gov’s side they have already decided he’s right and they don’t really need or want any proof but he has to go through the motion of making the request before accusing Disney of a cover up.

 

[WannaGoNow]

As stated, the body that makes the policies is not the policies themselves. If this were the case then the agreement would not have survived dissolution.

Yes, the agreement would definitely survive dissolution. Also, negating the contract just because a body is dissolved is illegal by federal and state law. That’s part of the reason why DeSantis did not dissolve Reedy Creek but instead replaced it.

This prevents the board from doing something like rezoning Wide World of Sports as single family residential or requiring all projects to go through public development review.

Yes! The board cannot do anything except what is outlined in the agreements already standing!

Therefore, it doesn’t matter what they call themselves or how they rearrange themselves, they have no authority except what it is already granted in the documents. And if they try to stymie Disney or do not live up to the agreements, then Disney can seek legal redress.

The board’s resolution is political theater and has no teeth, as the experts interviewed by the Orlando Business Journal clearly state.

 

[WannaGoNow]

DeSantis made this comment on Thursday evening. He may be referring to the board meeting on 4/19.

There will be several presentations that day by the district’s legal team in addition to the board considering the two resolutions. I’m sure someone or several people from Disney will be there.

Resolution 638 also hasn’t been released to the public.

It has - it should be on display now per the public announcement of the meeting https://classifieds.orlandosentinel...eeting-you-will-/AC1E044909eaf2028DxD3p734A05

Also, several media outlets have seen it.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Yes, the agreement would definitely survive dissolution. Also, negating the contract just because a body is dissolved is illegal by federal and state law. That’s part of the reason why DeSantis did not dissolve Reedy Creek but instead replaced it.


Yes! The board cannot do anything except what is outlined in the agreements already standing!

Therefore, it doesn’t matter what they call themselves or how they rearrange themselves, they have no authority except what it is already granted in the documents. And if they try to stymie Disney or do not live up to the agreements, then Disney can seek legal redress.

The board’s resolution is political theater and has no teeth, as the experts interviewed by the Orlando Business Journal clearly state.

Yes, I finally figured out the thing I have been consistently explaining for well before you jumped in all thanks to you.

 

[WannaGoNow]

What’s in it?

Sorry, my mistake, Stripes is right. The Orlando Business Journal has Resolution 639, not 638. But per the public announcement, it should be on display.

 

[WannaGoNow]

Yes, I finally figured out the thing I have been consistently explaining for well before you jumped in all thanks to you.

You are so welcome, glad to have cleared up all your confusion on this matter Like why the Sentinel was so “lazy” or that contracts cannot be dissolved just because the body is dissolved.

 

[Stripes]

Sorry, my mistake, Stripes is right. The Orlando Business Journal has Resolution 639, not 638. But per the public announcement, it should be on display.

I requested the resolution but was told that per special district counsel the resolution would be released later “this week” which was last week. Nonetheless, it hasn’t been released to me yet, nor does it appear to have been released to others.

 

[afterabme]

These last few meetings have not been held in the RCID building. Is there a reason they are hesitant to not meet there?

 

[The Mom]

These last few meetings have not been held in the RCID building. Is there a reason they are hesitant to not meet there?

IMO, they are meeting in a larger space because the number of people in the audience has increased dramatically this year. I suspect they don't want to be accused of denying public access,

 

[flyakite]

Another notice in Orlando Sentinel:

YOU WILL PLEASE TAKE NOTICE that on April 26 th at 9:30 a.m., or as soon thereafter as practicable, the Board of Supervisors of the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District will meet in regular session at The B Resort (Grand ballroom) 1905 Hotel Plaza Boulevard, Lake Buena Vista, Florida. At that time and in addition to other business on the agenda, the Board of Supervisors will conduct a reading and public hearing on and consider for adoption Resolution No. 640. A RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THE CENTRAL FLORIDA TOURIST OVERSIGHT DISTRICT ADOPTING REGULATIONS PROHIBITING COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS AND MANDATES BY BUSINESSES WITHIN THE DISTRICT UPON THEIR CUSTOMERS OR PATRONS AND PROHIBITING COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS AND MANDATES REGARDING THE SERVICES AND OPERATIONS OF THE CENTRAL FLORIDA TOURIST OVERSIGHT DISTRICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, CONFLICTS AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Interested parties may appear at the public meeting and hearing to be heard with respect to the proposed resolution. If a person decides to appeal any decision made by the Board of Supervisors with respect to any matter considered at such meeting or hearing, he or she will need a record of the proceedings, and that, for such purpose, he or she may need to ensure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made, which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the appeal is to be based.
BY: Tina Graham, Clerk
Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

 

[flyakite]

Did we know about Resolution 640?

 

[StaceyH_SD]

Resolution 640 is a new one but predictable given who’s on the board. Really showing Disney who’s boss now!

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Not really surprising though. I doubt Disney was going to have a trail of texts/emails to the old RCID board talking about how they were going to enact their evil master plan.

…well…I wouldn’t put it past chapek

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Did we know about Resolution 640?

That was the one right before order 66, right?

 

[castlecake2.0]

Another notice in Orlando Sentinel:

YOU WILL PLEASE TAKE NOTICE that on April 26 th at 9:30 a.m., or as soon thereafter as practicable, the Board of Supervisors of the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District will meet in regular session at The B Resort (Grand ballroom) 1905 Hotel Plaza Boulevard, Lake Buena Vista, Florida. At that time and in addition to other business on the agenda, the Board of Supervisors will conduct a reading and public hearing on and consider for adoption Resolution No. 640. A RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THE CENTRAL FLORIDA TOURIST OVERSIGHT DISTRICT ADOPTING REGULATIONS PROHIBITING COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS AND MANDATES BY BUSINESSES WITHIN THE DISTRICT UPON THEIR CUSTOMERS OR PATRONS AND PROHIBITING COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS AND MANDATES REGARDING THE SERVICES AND OPERATIONS OF THE CENTRAL FLORIDA TOURIST OVERSIGHT DISTRICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, CONFLICTS AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. Interested parties may appear at the public meeting and hearing to be heard with respect to the proposed resolution. If a person decides to appeal any decision made by the Board of Supervisors with respect to any matter considered at such meeting or hearing, he or she will need a record of the proceedings, and that, for such purpose, he or she may need to ensure that a verbatim record of the proceedings is made, which record includes the testimony and evidence upon which the appeal is to be based.
BY: Tina Graham, Clerk
Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

This is outrageous