News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[flynnibus]

Not true. Disney already pays property taxes to the counties. And they pay property taxes to the district.

If the district goes away, the counties can't magically raise Disney's property taxes by much. First, they'd have to raise taxes on all businesses, not just Disney. Second there's a provision in the FL constitution that prevents more than a 10% raise on property taxes for businesses in any given year.

This will have to be passed on to the residents.

Counties would create a special tax district to help pay for that areas needs. There are plenty of ways to target 'usage' taxes for specific areas/needs.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

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...without realizing that I'm a happily married straight cisgender male with a kid of my own that I'm trying to raise to be a good human being and who treats everyone equally.

And this is all that ever mattered. And applies to everyone even if some of the details vary

It’s just fear tactics to gain political power and money.

Mrs. Potts sang a song about it.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Disney's assessed property tax value is artificially low because of the existence of the District.

Magic Kingdom is assessed at $504 million. Magic Kingdom's actual value is probably closer to $10 billion.

I never claimed that RCID means Disney pays no county taxes. I claimed that Disney pays much less county taxes than it otherwise would if not for the existence of the District.

One has nothing to do with the other. That's like saying my county undercharges me for taxes because I also pay town and school taxes. The county cares not one bit what I pay the town so long as they get their share.

 

[Disstevefan1]

ITS OVER!

 

[BuddyThomas]

ITS OVER!

Errr, what is?

 

[MisterPenguin]

Why are people talking about WDW no longer operating in FL?

WDW isn't going anywhere. It doesn't *need* a special district. It'll be fine.

It will, tho, no longer be afraid of the FL government with nothing left to hold over them.

That's sort of freeing, no? To contribute to candidates and PAC more aligned to its business and ethos rather than having to butter both sides of the bread.

 

["El Gran Magnifico"]

Oh great. Now there’s two threads on this.

 

[LAKid53]

Counties would create a special tax district to help pay for that areas needs. There are plenty of ways to target 'usage' taxes for specific areas/needs.

While both Orange and Osceola Counties could do so, DeSantis signed SB620 into law, limiting what local governments can do.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Florida Senate passes bill to strip Disney's special self-governing status​

 

[LAKid53]

Why are people talking about WDW no longer operating in FL?

WDW isn't going anywhere. It doesn't *need* a special district. It'll be fine.

It will, tho, no longer be afraid of the FL government with nothing left to hold over them.

That's sort of freeing, no? To contribute to candidates and PAC more aligned to its business and ethos rather than having to butter both sides of the bread.

Agree. Those people are out of touch.

 

[Bullseye1967]

Congratulations. You just ensured that Disney will lay off exactly the number of people or moves them out of state so they fall under the threshold.

You are kidding I hope. That money doesn't come from Disney. It comes from tourists and we both know that Disney has no concern about pricing out guests.

 

[the_rich]

Florida Senate passes bill to strip Disney's special self-governing status​

Yea, that's what this thread has been about. We all know it's gonna pass. But the argument is whether it's right and/or enforceable. To which I say no to both.

 

[Brian]

Why are people talking about WDW no longer operating in FL?

WDW isn't going anywhere. It doesn't *need* a special district. It'll be fine.

It will, tho, no longer be afraid of the FL government with nothing left to hold over them.

That's sort of freeing, no? To contribute to candidates and PAC more aligned to its business and ethos rather than having to butter both sides of the bread.

Correct. The question folks should be asking is how will this decision affect taxpayers across the state, and especially the taxpayers in Orange and Osceola counties. It's irresponsible for folks to report the latter are going to be saddled with $2,500 special assessments, since that will almost certainly not happen (a scheme will be drawn up to avoid that on either the state and/or local level), but there are implications which a serious legislature would pump the brakes on and take some time to consider before trying to score some quick political points.

RCID deserves scrutiny. It very clearly benefits just one company directly, and the state shouldn't be in the business of giving favors to any one company. But this isn't the way to do it.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

What is the source of the video?

The teachers themselves, in most instances.

 

[CaptainMickey]

A $2200 tax hike for every Orange and Osceola county family - yikes!

So much for fiscal conservatism.

If this was actually the case and Disney could dump that much of the bill on the taxpayers, they will be thrilled by this, right? Disney should have done this years ago and saved all that money!

 

[flynnibus]

That's not correct. In debate today, the main sponsor of the Senate bill, Jennifer Bradley, clearly stated the outstanding debt of RCID will be assumed by the county governments when the district is dissolved and the counties take over the services the district provided to WDW. That cost will be passed on to residents in the form of higher property taxes.

Property taxes aren't the only revenue source for a county. And while sponsor of the bill - she isn't the interpreter of the law. They weren't that explicit in the bill passed, so it's not her call. The staff analysis says that... but the staff analysis also didn't address the fact that RCID is an independent district that spans two counties. So how that gets divided would be something to be hammered out too.

Notable they don't just get the debt, but the assets.

 

[LAKid53]

Correct. The question folks should be asking is how will this decision affect taxpayers across the state, and especially the taxpayers in Orange and Osceola counties. It's irresponsible for folks to report the latter are going to be saddled with $2,500 special assessments, since that will almost certainly not happen (a scheme will be drawn up to avoid that on either the state and/or local level), but there are implications which a serious legislature would pump the brakes on and take some time to consider before trying to score some quick political points.

RCID deserves scrutiny. It very clearly benefits just one company directly, and the state shouldn't be in the business of giving favors to any one company. But this isn't the way to do it.

There are over 1000 special districts in the state.

 

[JoeCamel]

I've read the existing statute. I see nothing in either HB3C or SB4-C that amends 189.072(2)(a), Florida Statutes:

"(2) OTHER DISSOLUTIONS.—
(a) In order for the Legislature to dissolve an active independent special district created and operating pursuant to a special act, the special act dissolving the active independent special district must be approved by a majority of the resident electors of the district or, for districts in which a majority of governing body members are elected by landowners, a majority of the landowners voting in the same manner by which the independent special district’s governing body is elected."

Reedy Creek was created by an act of the Florida Legislature in 1967. The above quoted section of Florida Statute would have to be followed, otherwise the dissolution is prohibited by existing law.

Are you not proud the great state of Florida called it's legislators to Tallahassee to convene into a special session which was originally called to work on the constant, ongoing, interminable property insurance availability and cost issues is taking their valuable time to pursue this path that is doomed to fail in the courts?
God what a waste

 

[Brian]

There are over 1000 special districts in the state.

I'm well aware; I live in one. What's your point?

 

[MisterPenguin]

Maybe, once the two counties get saddled with the Special District, instead of incorporating them as separate towns, the county can make a special district of them...