No more plastic bags in Jersey! Oh no!Ahhh…how’s the weather today in Tuckerton?
That’s gonna go too…probably this year
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News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District
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Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
It’s gonna take…AT LEAST…until may 6th for everyone to adapt/recover…
TrainsOfDisney
Well-Known Member
what does this do to the mental state of LGBT CM’s working in Florida?
The governor is playing power games because he doesn’t think you should exist.
This should be criminal.
The governor is playing power games because he doesn’t think you should exist.
This should be criminal.
Tom P.
Well-Known Member
There is a very high bar to clear for slander/libel charges in the United States because of our Constitutional guarantee of free speech. While I disagree with what Disney and its people had to say, it is pretty much all political opinion, which is exactly what the first amendment was designed to protect. No way that a court in the United States would hold up a charge of slander/libel against Disney in this case.
"El Gran Magnifico"
Mr Flibble is Very Cross.
Yeah but do you have plastic straws. That’s the benchmark.
Tom P.
Well-Known Member
Yes, you're absolutely right. DeSantis' motives are the extermination of LGBTQ+ people. You cracked the code. Congratulations.
THIS.
The men who wrote the Constitution and the first ten amendments thereto looked to British common law and the Crown courts when drafting protections for citizens to criticize their government. Including calling government officials impolite names. Political speech is protected, which has been affirmed by numerous SCOTUS decisions.
Nah.
I can't think of anyone who was this hyped for the presidency so far before the election who's actually made it through the primaries, much less into the general.
If that were the case, the 2016 election would've been Hillary v Jeb, and 2020 would've been Bernie or Warren v Trump.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
There’s a bill to rescind that mandate that will easily pass and be signed if they choose to bother to put it on the floor. It’s a very archaic policy at this point. You don’t need “more jobs” when you are horribly short on filling the ones you already have
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Dissent was kinda the key founding principle of the country.
It’s a shame that you and Mike have to hold a community college class on it here today
whaaa?
Casper Gutman
Well-Known Member
You seem to have trouble distinguishing between private speech and government action, which is odd for a self-proclaimed libertarian. Execs at a private company are not the same as government officials.
What legislation from the "woke" do you consider equivalent to what DeSantis is doing here? Failing that, what high-level office-holders on the other side routinely push illiberal ideas the way DeSantis and Trump do? Again, people saying foolish things in a private capacity are absolutely not equivalent in any way to officeholders passing legislation.
Should I invite my wife to give the forum the same conlaw finals tutoring sessions she gives to law students?
AEfx
Well-Known Member
This has nothing to do with the Constitutional First Amendment in regards to "free speech". I am really surprised at the amount of people beating that drum, since this crowd is usually a bit more educated about such things.
This is not a law that "abridge(s) freedom of speech". No one is making a law saying Disney can't do or say what they please.
What they are doing is proposing to remove special privileges Disney has with the government because it is actively trying to work against them. Is it retaliatory? Sure, but it has nothing to do with the First Amendment or prohibiting Disney's Free Speech. It's just nasty politics, and Disney has no "right" to those special privileges to begin with.
I'm just amazed at how pro-corporations special treatment people have suddenly become...
This is not a law that "abridge(s) freedom of speech". No one is making a law saying Disney can't do or say what they please.
What they are doing is proposing to remove special privileges Disney has with the government because it is actively trying to work against them. Is it retaliatory? Sure, but it has nothing to do with the First Amendment or prohibiting Disney's Free Speech. It's just nasty politics, and Disney has no "right" to those special privileges to begin with.
I'm just amazed at how pro-corporations special treatment people have suddenly become...
Sir_Cliff
Well-Known Member
I can't be the only one who finds it interesting that the same "poking the bear" metaphor used by apologists for Russia's invasion of Ukraine is being used here by apologists for the Florida government going after Disney.
It sounds like you do like his approach to politics. You have previously described him as a troll and just stated you find it fun to watch his opponents getting dragged across the coals. Sounds a little like doing politics for the lolz is something you share.
BuddyThomas
Well-Known Member
He wants the silencing of the LGBTQ community, to be sure. He wants everyone back in the closet and we will be making sure that never, ever happens just because of the bigoted mind of a very small man and his smaller supporters.
"El Gran Magnifico"
Mr Flibble is Very Cross.
Correct. It was given as an incentive to Disney. An incentive that can be removed.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
Mob action that causes me to be unemployable for holding opinions outside of the progressive orthodoxy is functionally no different than State action making such opinions illegal.
All of this is beside the point, of course, because none of the Florida legislation that we're talking about is an action against free speech.