News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

lazyboy97o

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Anyone familiar with FL law? Does the chief inspector general have jurisdiction over local government? Everything I've seen seems to make it about executive offices, but I'm not an expert by any means....
I would guess the reasons is that because the board is appointed by the governor then it is “under the direct supervision of the Governor.”

I honestly would be surprised if we see the Team Disney Orlando building raided.
 

csmat99

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Reedy Creek was technically a government agency, so if anyone on the board was given anything to influence them it could be considered bribing a public official.
Ron I mean Thom you really need to check yourself here. You are making yourself sound foolish. If you want to have adult conversation then try to do some actual research and come back to us when you have facts. Because right now you are just throwing absurd accusations the same way i could say Ron took bribes from Comcast/universal to do this to Disney.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
You can say whatever you want about what DeSantis is doing, and if its good/bad/legal, ect., but calling him a Ding Dong, when at every step he is getting exactly what he wants at no personal costs seems like a big stretch.

First, as to the billions in taxes from the parks, do you think there is any chance anything that he has done here puts that in jeopardy? Is WDW picking up and moving the parks, and all the rides and the jobs created someplace else? Absent Florida declaring theme parks illegal, there is no threat of WDW moving the parks and the tax money out of FLA. Leaving aside all the pluses in Orlando like weather, transportation, existing tourist market, ect., do you think there is ANY way when disney is cutting jobs to save money that they are going to expend money to purchase, at today market rates, land of a size to fit all the parks (assuming you find a location that makes as much sense as having them in Florida) and build up all the new infrastructure to support them?

Second, again DeSantis is getting everything he wants from this soap opera. Free TV time and publicity for his base. When he first started this train wreck he got to stand up against WOKE Disney. He gets to not only reach out to his Christian conservative base, but also gets to stand up against the corrupt big business practices. And if you don't think that a tailor made 2-1 issue to highlight when your gearing up for a primary battle against former President Trump, I can't help you.

Even now, he is still going to get exactly what he wanted. More publicity and air time. Running the permitting and roads for the area was never his end goal. But he gets to not dissolve the district, so no new big local taxes (conservative rep check no. 1), your biggest tax base business gets to keep churning along and making money and paying taxes (check no. 2) AND now you get to keep complaining about the issue. This is why HE needs to be president. These woke corporations think they are bigger then the government, bigger than YOU the voter (leaving aside this was ram-roaded through without popular vote or input.) The election is not right around the corner, he needs the fight and the issue more than control over some permits, which at the end of the day, wasn't the control over content and corporate governance that it was sold to be in the first place.
What an angry, nonsensical rant to run smoke for a DOA politician.

I expect no more…however.
 

JohnD

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flynnibus

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JohnD

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Yeah, but I am unsure that simply being the one to appoint the board members means the district is "under direct supervision of the governor".

Could be another twist...
The Governor's justification could be any of these under Ch. 14.32, Section (2):

(2) The Chief Inspector General shall:
(a) Initiate, supervise, and coordinate investigations, recommend policies, and carry out other activities designed to deter, detect, prevent, and eradicate fraud, waste, abuse, mismanagement, and misconduct in government.
(b) Investigate, upon receipt of a complaint or for cause, any administrative action of any agency, the administration of which is under the direct supervision of the Governor, regardless of the finality of the administrative action.
(d) Examine the records and reports of any agency the administration of which is under the direct supervision of the Governor.

or maybe

(2)(k) Conduct special investigations and management reviews at the request of the Governor.

For the record, "agency" is defined in Ch. 20.03(11), FS as:
(11) “Agency,” as the context requires, means an official, officer, commission, authority, council, committee, department, division, bureau, board, section, or another unit or entity of government.
 

MrPromey

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What an angry, nonsensical rant to run smoke for a DOA politician.

I expect no more…however.
I was about to ask what happened to his whole free market shtick until I got to this:

"(leaving aside this was ram-roaded through without popular vote or input.)"

.... and thought he was talking about the whole ordeal DeSantis created and not what the RCID board did in response.

... which left me confused if he was arguing against his own point in the middle of his own point or if he was being sarcastic about the whole thing.

I'm sticking with the link because that still feels appropriate to me, regardless.
 
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pdude81

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The Governor's justification could be any of these under Ch. 14.32, Section (2):

(2) The Chief Inspector General shall:
(a) Initiate, supervise, and coordinate investigations, recommend policies, and carry out other activities designed to deter, detect, prevent, and eradicate fraud, waste, abuse, mismanagement, and misconduct in government.
(b) Investigate, upon receipt of a complaint or for cause, any administrative action of any agency, the administration of which is under the direct supervision of the Governor, regardless of the finality of the administrative action.
(d) Examine the records and reports of any agency the administration of which is under the direct supervision of the Governor.

or maybe

(2)(k) Conduct special investigations and management reviews at the request of the Governor.

For the record, "agency" is defined in Ch. 20.03(11), FS as:
(11) “Agency,” as the context requires, means an official, officer, commission, authority, council, committee, department, division, bureau, board, section, or another unit or entity of government.

2(b) or not 2(b)?

That is the question.
 

mmascari

Well-Known Member
Bob Iger on the shareholder call responding to a question about the happenings in Florida.

"A company has a right to freedom of speech".

Bob also said - any action that thwarts those efforts simply to retaliate for a position the company took sounds not just anti-business, but it sounds anti-Florida.
That's an interesting repose. Did he just call Ron anti-business and anti-Florida? But, in a super nice way without actually saying it directly.

Is perhaps the mouse feeling good about recent reporting on how it out maneuvered the attack. Perhaps deciding if they're content to sit on that win or deciding if they need to go for total victory. Decisions decisions.
 

pdude81

Well-Known Member
That's an interesting repose. Did he just call Ron anti-business and anti-Florida? But, in a super nice way without actually saying it directly.

Is perhaps the mouse feeling good about recent reporting on how it out maneuvered the attack. Perhaps deciding if they're content to sit on that win or deciding if they need to go for total victory. Decisions decisions.
I think they are in a place where they are ok with the status quo, but should the beef get any more spicy, they are prepared to go to war.

To me this seems like Bob I. saying "F around and find out".
 

JohnD

Well-Known Member
2(b) or not 2(b)?

That is the question.
Or maybe section 3?

(3) Related to public-private partnerships, the Chief Inspector General:
(b) May conduct, direct, and supervise audits relating to the programs and operations of public-private partnerships.
(c) Shall receive and investigate complaints of fraud, abuses, and deficiencies relating to programs and operations of public-private partnerships.
(d) May request and have access to any records, data, and other information in the possession of public-private partnerships which the Chief Inspector General deems necessary to carry out his or her responsibilities with respect to accountability.
(e) Shall monitor public-private partnerships for compliance with the terms and conditions of contracts with the department and report noncompliance to the Governor.
 

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