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[Sirwalterraleigh]

That's an interesting repose. Did he just call Ron anti-business and anti-Florida? But, in a super nice way without actually saying it directly.

Of course he did…..
…and it’s about damn time.

That is actually true and the pressure point that Disney will stand on.

Doing this for hack political donations…and that’s all this is - no “principles” - goes against the established doctrine of THAT PARTY since ww2.

It’s also is detrimental to Florida. The Disneys - though the residents will deny it - built about half that state. It has had huge impact on the tourist culture…and that’s what Florida is.

 

[JohnD]

Finally, the duties of the IG in relation to legal matters.

(5) In exercising authority under this section, the Chief Inspector General or his or her designee may:
(a) Hire or retain legal counsel.
(b) Issue and serve subpoenas and subpoenas duces tecum, for agencies under the jurisdiction of the Governor, to compel the attendance of witnesses and the production of documents, reports, answers, records, accounts, and other data in any medium.
(c) Require or permit a person to file a statement in writing, under oath or otherwise, as to all the facts and circumstances concerning the matter to be audited, examined, or investigated.
In the event of noncompliance with a subpoena issued pursuant to this subsection, the Chief Inspector General may petition the circuit court of the county in which the person subpoenaed resides or has his or her principal place of business for an order requiring the subpoenaed person to appear and testify and to produce documents, reports, answers, records, accounts, or other data as specified in the subpoena.

So that's the authority of the IG. Where it goes remains to be seen.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

As he should. Don't f* with the mouse.

To be clear…Iger is shot at this point. More Evidence piles on daily…

…but in this case…and with the name on the door…Florida is outmatched

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I'm wondering if a lawsuit is coming...

…they’re probably overdue…multiple ones

 

[mikejs78]

Of course he did…..
…and it’s about damn time.

That is actually true and the pressure point that Disney will stand on.

Doing this for hack political donations…and that’s all this is - no “principles” - goes Gaia by the established doctrine of THAT PARTY since ww2.

It’s also is detrimental as Florida. The Disneys - though the residents will deny it - built about half that state. It has had huge impact on the tourist culture…and that’s what Florida is.

This is where you know that Disney is in the right on this one - when people like you, who are frequently highly critical of current Disney come to their defense.. Not just you either, there's a lot of that here.

 

[Ghost93]

That's an interesting repose. Did he just call Ron anti-business and anti-Florida? But, in a super nice way without actually saying it directly.

Is perhaps the mouse feeling good about recent reporting on how it out maneuvered the attack. Perhaps deciding if they're content to sit on that win or deciding if they need to go for total victory. Decisions decisions.

I think Disney would like this matter to disappear and be out of the press. But since DeSantis is using his war with Disney to boost his presidential campaign, it's in DeSantis's interest to keep the absurd feud going.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

This is where you know that Disney is in the right on this one - when people like you, who are frequently highly critical of current Disney come to their defense.. Not just you either, there's a lot of that here.

I attempt - not always successful - to judge everything on the merits through the lens of common sense (unfortunately not that “common”).

By no means whatsoever did this look justified, appropriate, or wise.

Our public discourse and lack of civics has devolved to a situation where this kinda thing can happen. That’s really all this is.

 

[Incomudro]

Ha, that makes like no sense. A battery is less of a fire hazard if it's in the hallway vs in the room? This sounds like someone who was thinking 'don't make the room crowded' and made up something. Serious disconnect between safety and someone likely just trying to deal day to day.

Yeah, as a family member and friend of several (now retired) NYC firemen - they have told me that objects in hallways are some of the most dangerous things for firemen in a fire.
My friend Mark for instance used to do search and rescue, and he would crawl on his hands and knees often completely blind due to the smoke obscuring his vision.
He has told me that he would crawl along the floor, finding his way around by keeping the wall to one side of his body.
Any object in the way - plus one that could potentially be on fire - could really hamper that process.
I remember a story that he told me where they found a body in a room he had searched after the fire was out.
He told me that he must have crawled right around that unfortunate person's body several times during his search, without realizing it was there.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I think Disney would like this matter to disappear and be out of the press. But since DeSantis is using his war with Disney to boost his presidential campaign, it's in DeSantis's interest to keep the absurd feud going.

They absolutely would put the Cooler on this if they had a choice…

I would bet the ranch they’ve tried since November

But this is “new political maneuvering”…not the predictable old style of the past.

This is game on

 

[Disney Analyst]

I thought Bob's first public response to these Florida shenanigans were strong and good.

 

[mikejs78]

It's great that Disney is now fighting back in support of LBGTQ+ rights in Florida. As Iger said, "A company has a right to freedom of speech."

Does this mean he's also going to take a stand in China, where LBGTQ+ violations are much more severe?

Oh come on. That's a bit disingenuous. China regrettably does not guarantee freedom of speech, The US supposedly does.

So what you're saying then is that Florida is like the people's Republic of China?

 

[Andrew C]

It's great that Disney is now fighting back in support of LBGTQ+ rights in Florida. As Iger said, "A company has a right to freedom of speech."

Does this mean he's also going to take a stand in China, where LBGTQ+ violations are much more severe?

If concentration camps and potential genocide don't keep Disney (and others) out of China, you know other human rights or speech violations won't. He will keep his mouth shut for the sake of money...

 

[flynnibus]

The Governor's justification could be any of these under Ch. 14.32, Section (2):

(2) The Chief Inspector General shall:
(a) Initiate, supervise, and coordinate investigations, recommend policies, and carry out other activities designed to deter, detect, prevent, and eradicate fraud, waste, abuse, mismanagement, and misconduct in government.
(b) Investigate, upon receipt of a complaint or for cause, any administrative action of any agency, the administration of which is under the direct supervision of the Governor, regardless of the finality of the administrative action.
(d) Examine the records and reports of any agency the administration of which is under the direct supervision of the Governor.

or maybe

(2)(k) Conduct special investigations and management reviews at the request of the Governor.

For the record, "agency" is defined in Ch. 20.03(11), FS as:
(11) “Agency,” as the context requires, means an official, officer, commission, authority, council, committee, department, division, bureau, board, section, or another unit or entity of government.

Which continually refer to the executive branch. "any agency, the administration of which is under direct supervision of the Governor"

 

[Heppenheimer]

I’m old enough to remember the fight against Apartheid.

Despite decades of pressure from other countries, Apartheid didn’t collapse until
South Africa was economically hurt by multiple private sector companies taking a stand.

The treatment of the LGTBQ+ community in China is horrific, far worse than anything faced in any Western country.

Disney could be on the forefront of a new movement. With their numerous economic ties in China, I can think of no better company positioned to lead this than Disney.

Use Winnie the Pooh as the symbol of this new movement.

 

[flynnibus]

It's great that Disney is now fighting back in support of LBGTQ+ rights in Florida. As Iger said, "A company has a right to freedom of speech."

Does this mean he's also going to take a stand in China, where LBGTQ+ violations are much more severe?

Are those privileges already established under law there and being challenged by the leader? Please drop the strawman.

 

[Lilofan]

It's great that Disney is now fighting back in support of LBGTQ+ rights in Florida. As Iger said, "A company has a right to freedom of speech."

Does this mean he's also going to take a stand in China, where LBGTQ+ violations are much more severe?

The same country ( China ) where 75% of out meds come from? Some of these meds have saved some of my family members lives.

 

[flynnibus]

Or maybe section 3?

An agreement is not a public-private partnership.

 

[Armerius]

I’m old enough to remember the fight against Apartheid.

Despite decades of pressure from other countries, Apartheid didn’t collapse until
South Africa was economically hurt by multiple private sector companies taking a stand.

The treatment of the LGTBQ+ community in China is horrific, far worse than anything faced in any Western country.

Disney could be on the forefront of a new movement. With their numerous economic ties in China, I can think of no better company positioned to lead this than Disney.

wont happen... the south african market its and was miniscule in comparison to what china is. so no. besides its not like disney personally cared about the rights etc.. as bob said.. it was handled poorly but its done so lets fix it.

But if you still wanna think that companies care and should care..then be my guest.

 

[mikejs78]

I’m old enough to remember the fight against Apartheid.

Despite decades of pressure from other countries, Apartheid didn’t collapse until
South Africa was economically hurt by multiple private sector companies taking a stand.

The treatment of the LGTBQ+ community in China is horrific, far worse than anything faced in any Western country.

Disney could be on the forefront of a new movement. With their numerous economic ties in China, I can think of no better company positioned to lead this than Disney.

It's not quite that simple. Disney has a presence in China and employees there. Any tough stance could put those people in danger. It's easy to say now but 10-15 years ago people were talking how China was being slowly democratized because of its economic position in the world, that changes were happening, and it was a good time to get into China because the more western companies did, the quicker a more free society would emerge. That was naive, and it didn't happen, but that was the logic a lot of people were advocating at the time.

Now it's a lot harder calculus - on the one hand, they could completely pull out of China; would hurt a lot of people individually, probably have little practical effect without a major coordination of most of the world. Or they could speak out, which could result in arrests or executions of people in Disney's employ and the nationalization of their assets there.

It's a really hard situation that won't resolve unless a large number of companies work in lockstep.

 

[plutofan15]

It's great that Disney is now fighting back in support of LBGTQ+ rights in Florida. As Iger said, "A company has a right to freedom of speech."

Does this mean he's also going to take a stand in China, where LBGTQ+ violations are much more severe?