News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

LAKid53

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This is a Disney run site so expect little from this site, nuff said!

No, it is not. As stated at the bottom of the page.

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LAKid53

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It is not supported by Disney in any way.

What control does Disney have over citizens? Only a handful of people live within the Reedy Creek Improvement District.

You may want to better familiarize yourself with Marx’s work, but that’s not really relevant to this thread.

Like maybe 40 at most?
 

Wil B 622

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Actually, Disney would pay more in taxes to Orange County if this were to pass. Orange county would essentially absorb all the functions such as permitting, etc that currently RCID provides.

Orange county would then sell those services to Disney, just as they do any other business. Same as police and fire, a rate for those services would be set and paid for by Disney.

Yes, projects would take longer and cost more for Disney to build.. but to suggest that this would somehow cause taxes on the citizen's to increase, is simply not true and I'd assume anyone pushing that line is a PR firm hired to do damage. The same goes for the "Well Disney will just pack up and leave Florida" crowed... not going to happen and you all know it.
I completely disagree with your first point,
Upon dissolution, these service costs will be shifted to the counties. The company would still need to pay for receiving these services, but current state law requires that all areas of a county be taxed equally. Any new tax imposed to cover the new administration costs would apply countywide to everyone. The effect would be a tax break for Disney, as Orange and Osceola County residents subsidize the former district’s service tax costs.

Disney also pays roughly $58 million every year in taxes to service Reedy Creek’s bond debt. It is estimated that the RCID currently has around $1 billion in bond liabilities. Absent additional legislation, the bond debt would be transferred to the counties upon the district’s dissolution with no new revenue to offset this new cost.
 

Wil B 622

New Member
Upon dissolution, these service costs will be shifted to the counties. The company would still need to pay for receiving these services, but current state law requires that all areas of a county be taxed equally. Any new tax imposed to cover the new administration costs would apply countywide to everyone. The effect would be a tax break for Disney, as Orange and Osceola County residents subsidize the former district’s service tax costs.

Disney also pays roughly $58 million every year in taxes to service Reedy Creek’s bond debt. It is estimated that the RCID currently has around $1 billion in bond liabilities. Absent additional legislation, the bond debt would be transferred to the counties upon the district’s dissolution with no new revenue to offset this new cost.

Disney points to language in Section 56 of the Reedy Creek Charter where the state “pledge[d] to the holders of any bonds issued under [the] Act that it will not limit or alter the rights of the District to ... fulfill the terms of any agreement made with the holders of such bonds ... until all such bonds together with interest thereon, and all costs and expenses in connection with any action or proceeding by or on behalf of such holders, are fully met and discharged.”

Moody’s Investors Service affirmed Reedy Creek’s bond ratings last week but revised its outlook from “stable” to “developing”.
 

LAKid53

Official Member of the Girly Girl Fan Club
Premium Member
Actually, Disney would pay more in taxes to Orange County if this were to pass. Orange county would essentially absorb all the functions such as permitting, etc that currently RCID provides.

Orange county would then sell those services to Disney, just as they do any other business. Same as police and fire, a rate for those services would be set and paid for by Disney.

Yes, projects would take longer and cost more for Disney to build.. but to suggest that this would somehow cause taxes on the citizen's to increase, is simply not true and I'd assume anyone pushing that line is a PR firm hired to do damage. The same goes for the "Well Disney will just pack up and leave Florida" crowed... not going to happen and you all know it.

Disagree with your first statement. Florida law prohibits charging a higher rate to one property owner over others in the jurisdiction, unless a special district is created. What would happen under your scenario is that those services formerly provided by RCID and paid for by Disney would have the costs spread amongst ALL property owners in Orange County if Orange County takes over waste, water, roads, emergency services. Which means Disney's taxes go down compared to my what by they currently pay to RCID and we property owners see ours go up.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Disagree with your first statement. Florida law prohibits charging a higher rate to one property owner over others in the jurisdiction, unless a special district is created. What would happen under your scenario is that those services formerly provided by RCID and paid for by Disney would have the costs spread amongst ALL property owners in Orange County if Orange County takes over waste, water, roads, emergency services. Which means Disney's taxes go down compared to my what by they currently pay to RCID and we property owners see ours go up.
I don’t think they’re saying a “higher tax rate”…just that they’d pay more for services they lose/have to fill the gap for…

I’m sure somehow it’d be worse for Osceola…always works out that way too.


It’s a disaster. Try getting Disney in its current state to “pay more” to score political points…
…it will hurt every person in the region.

Let that scan
 

Tha Realest

Well-Known Member
For one thing, Universal and Sea world get the states/counties to pay for roads/infrastructure/etc. But in doing so they have to go through the buerocracy of getting the counties to manage projects.

Disney pays for all of its own infrastructure within the confines of Reedy Creek, but they get to do it on their timetable. So if the district were dissolved, it will end up passing more costs to the state and counties and make it harder for Disney to do infrastructure projects.

If the DeSantis proposal goes through with a takeover of the district, it will be very different than Universal/Sea World in that a great many things will be controlled by the state, whereas Universal and Sea World don't have those restrictions.
“Disney’s timetable” is not a winning data point in favor of keeping RCID.
 

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