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News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District
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And I bet no fine will be levied.
A debate broke out at work last night over who “the taxpayers” in the district are, showing that these press releases are in fact confusing the public.
I believe that's the plan....
Totally is, and it’s working. I tried to explain that WE are not paying taxes to the district, the BUSINESSES are, but nope this coworker was convinced somehow she was getting screwed out of tax dollars
Totally is, and it’s working. I tried to explain that WE are not paying taxes to the district, the BUSINESSES are, but nope this coworker was convinced somehow she was getting screwed out of tax dollars
Does she understand the concept of PROPERTY taxes? That only the property owners in RCID are paying those taxes? That non-property owning businesses on Disney property have a surcharge built into their rent for property taxes paid by DISNEY, as do most renters?
If she lives in Orange County, tell her to check the notice we just got from the County re: up coming tax bill. She won't see anything that says "Disney" on the various taxes. Mine doesn't.
pat denham
New Member
Who is paying the legal bills? I object to this and as a taxpayer don't want to pay for the fight that deSantis has started.
cranbiz
Well-Known Member
CFTOD and Disney. In reality, it's Disney and Disney.
The taxpayer being referred to are the taxpayers who are in the CFTOD (formerly RCID). The taxpayers of the district are TWDC and a few others that own land in the district. Taxpayers of Florida, Orange County and Osceola County do not pay taxes to the district. So unless you own land in the special tax district RCID/CFTOD, you have no objection.
The District is.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
The state is a party to the federal lawsuit and therefor those legal bills are being paid for by all Florida taxpayers.
cranbiz
Well-Known Member
True, the parts that are state specific will be footed by the State taxpayers (forgot that Disney did name DeSantis in his official capacity, et al). The State Court suit was brought by CFTOD, that is completely on them.
The military.
ewensell3
Well-Known Member
And are they a property tax payer within the district, or are they exempt?
I think y'all can see where I'm going here.
Property taxes aren't paid to the district. They are exempt from paying property taxes to Orange County though.
ETA: The "district - CFTOD" cannot set millage rates for the properties either. Only the county sets those rates. Their stupid news conference where they were saying that they were lowering the millage rate to property owners so that they pay lower taxes was a total lie. Only the respective county can change the millage rate, and those are limited by state laws. The county is also the only one that decides what a property is worth for taxes. The district has NO say in any of that, regardless of what they claim to be able to do. They are in the midst of the biggest misinformation campaign ever. It is quite unbelievable but they know the average Floridian won't know the difference and just think they're doing a great job, even though all they have done is release lie after lie after lie.
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The United States Department of Defense.
Government property is exempt from property taxes in Florida.
Here you go:
History
You would probably need to dig though all the records to be sure. There's going to be a lot of nuance to this.
From the link:
Which at first glance, sounds like Disney owns the land and MWR owns the stuff built on it. Which one pays the District tax bill is probably very interesting.
Either way, it's why most posters say "majority" or "most" or "primarily" instead of "Disney is the only taxpayer in RCID". To avoid an over simplification and absolute. By percentage of RCID taxes paid, Disney is clearly the majority of them by a lot.
*Edit - By "interesting", I mean full of legal details, contract law, and subject to lots of conditions of the contract on how the relationship was created. Not some fancy plot point. Also, probably only interesting to an attorney or accountant and extremely boring to everyone else.
flynnibus
Premium Member
The Shades of Green is ran by the DoD. Even the Civilian MWR activities for the armed forces are considered federal, so they are immune from state and local taxes.
They lease the property from Disney, but own the facilities. But being a federal entity... states don't tax them.