Reason the Wand may come down?

CBOMB

Active Member
Was just at the HD at hwy 6 and 1092 today. Couldnt find a danged cart to save my life. Dont know what they did with them all, but they were few and far between.

Gallon of paint 18.99
Three light bulbs 3.99
Labor to paint and replace light bulbs....$49,984.24,....an hour.:lookaroun
Now add in the cost of three independent consulting firms to decide the color of paint to be used, and the wattage, and brand of the light bulbs. A twelve person committee to meet in Las Vegas to give final approval to the paint, and bulb selection. Next we have local, and state permits to conduct said maintainence. Then you have the budget, and accounting oversight committee. A site evaluation, and preparation team. Finally you hire an outside P.R. firm to decide on what kind of promotional campaign you can come up with, to smooth over any Disney fans feelings that are hurt due to the color of paint you have choosen. That wand can be a budget buster. I think it's one of the main reasons a Pineapple Dole Whip cost $3.08.:lol:
 

jmvd20

Well-Known Member
But there has been wear and tear. The electric systems, in particular, seem to not be faring well...

While that may be the case it would not be due to WDW planning the wand as a temporary addition. Anything electrical that will be in place for more than approx. 60 days cannot be considered temporary and therefore must be installed in a permanent manner. The 60 day clause in the code is due to christmas displays.
 

goofntink

Member
Whoooa!.Man did this thread get off topic or what? Was about the wand, than somewhere 3/4 way through it becomes about Pixar:veryconfu To comment on the topic of this post.
Ain't goin nowhere anytime soon if ever.
Was built to be a permanant freestanding structure.
When it was engineered it was OVER engineered because of the above requirement and for weather in Florida,just like most of the other structure in WDW.It has more steel bracing then needed, as well as having larger wall thickness in the tubing and bracing.
Also speaking of weather related construction at WDW. I still laugh when I hear people ask about how long it takes to remove the spires on Cinderella Castle if we were to have a bad hurricane.And that they were told they were built and installed that way for just in case it would happen.:ROFLOL: :ROFLOL: :ROFLOL:
 

arstogas

New Member
>>>LOL... You dont know what belongs and what not...<<<

That's hardly a refutation of any substance. I understand your claims of having worked at WDI, and I have no reason to believe you did not. But even though you evidently have some kind of "thing" against Lasseter, everything I posted about him is completely accurate and devoid of hyperbole (unlike your own assertions previously).

He asked for oversight (that's a very different thing from constant creative meddling) of WDI. He got it.

He is tasked with returning WDFA to greatness, and he's passionate about that. It's where his roots are. Spend five minutes with the guy, and you'd get that. The steps that have been taken at WDFA Burbank, large and small, attest to a concerted plan to really reshape this place into greatness. People aren't expecting miracles, but morale in Burbank is the highest it's been in some time. This isn't just Lasseter, it's the team he's been assembling and the pace he and his core people have been establishing. And a big part of it is simply that Stainton is gone.

Marty Sklar is a very good man. But he knew his days were numbered. Had he not left on his own volition, there was no question that he would have been asked to leave, with haste.
 

wdwishes2005

New Member
>>>LOL... You dont know what belongs and what not...<<<

That's hardly a refutation of any substance. I understand your claims of having worked at WDI, and I have no reason to believe you did not. But even though you evidently have some kind of "thing" against Lasseter, everything I posted about him is completely accurate and devoid of hyperbole (unlike your own assertions previously).

He asked for oversight (that's a very different thing from constant creative meddling) of WDI. He got it.

He is tasked with returning WDFA to greatness, and he's passionate about that. It's where his roots are. Spend five minutes with the guy, and you'd get that. The steps that have been taken at WDFA Burbank, large and small, attest to a concerted plan to really reshape this place into greatness. People aren't expecting miracles, but morale in Burbank is the highest it's been in some time. This isn't just Lasseter, it's the team he's been assembling and the pace he and his core people have been establishing. And a big part of it is simply that Stainton is gone.

Marty Sklar is a very good man. But he knew his days were numbered. Had he not left on his own volition, there was no question that he would have been asked to leave, with haste.
If Corrus didn't work at WDI, then I'm Iger. He has proven himself time and time again to be a reliable and informative poster. I suggest you stop attacking someone who gives us more information than 99% of other members on this forum.
 

Enigma

Account Suspended
>>>LOL... You dont know what belongs and what not...<<<

That's hardly a refutation of any substance. I understand your claims of having worked at WDI, and I have no reason to believe you did not. But even though you evidently have some kind of "thing" against Lasseter, everything I posted about him is completely accurate and devoid of hyperbole (unlike your own assertions previously).

He asked for oversight (that's a very different thing from constant creative meddling) of WDI. He got it.

He is tasked with returning WDFA to greatness, and he's passionate about that. It's where his roots are. Spend five minutes with the guy, and you'd get that. The steps that have been taken at WDFA Burbank, large and small, attest to a concerted plan to really reshape this place into greatness. People aren't expecting miracles, but morale in Burbank is the highest it's been in some time. This isn't just Lasseter, it's the team he's been assembling and the pace he and his core people have been establishing. And a big part of it is simply that Stainton is gone.

Marty Sklar is a very good man. But he knew his days were numbered. Had he not left on his own volition, there was no question that he would have been asked to leave, with haste.

In a recent radio interview Lasseter also mentioned that his "second greatest love" after animation was Theme parks. Having grown up and worked at Disneyland (He was a sweeper in Tomorrowland and a skipper on the Jungle Cruise among other things) Lasseter has a real understanding of what works and what doesn't work in a theme park.

He is putting alot of his energy into fixing the Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage at Disneyland to ensure that instead of being a mess it will instead be a grand e-ticket adventure. He also reviewed plans for the new Pirate overlay for Tom Sawyer's Island, is actively involved in the design of Midway Mania and the retooling of DCA, and can be seen at Disneyland from time to time.

I believe he was also recently at WDW to check out Monsters Inc. which he and the director of the film, Pete Docter (another theme park geek) supposedly felt was not good enough.

If Corrus didn't work at WDI, then I'm Iger. He has proven himself time and time again to be a reliable and informative poster. I suggest you stop attacking someone who gives us more information than 99% of other members on this forum.

Nobody is attacking him. We just want to have a logical discussion with him. People aren't allowed to ask questions and debate around here?
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
If John Lasseter doesn't feel the Laugh Floor is good enough, does that mean Meg Crofton thinks it's fine if she decided to subject guests to its January version (it's apparently improved a lot and was simply dreadful when previews began)? That should be reason enough to get her fired...
 

arstogas

New Member
>>>I suggest you stop attacking someone who gives us more information than 99% of other members on this forum.<<<

Exactly how have I attacked Corrus? I believe it was exactly the reverse.

Truth is, Corrus' statements regarding Lasseter don't bear any resemblance to the situation right now.

I fully can accept that Corrus might have worked at WDI, but it sounds like he was there once, and now gets his info from those who have some grudge against John Lasseter, or that he bears some bias against the man.

Working in the industry right now, I can tell you that his assessment of the man doesn't reflect the situation, as it exists right now. Time will bear that out, but several changes at the company have ALREADY borne this out. Corrus should know this... if he's still around.

So I'm merely perplexed by his statements.
 

The Mom

Moderator
Premium Member
Nobody is attacking him. We just want to have a logical discussion with him. People aren't allowed to ask questions and debate around here?

Discussion- definitely allowed
Ask questions - definitely allowed
Debate - This isn't a debate board, so discouraged because it often crosses the line into argument. See my sig. ;)
 

Gorjus

Well-Known Member
As for professional photography of Aerosmith's name or Kodak's or whatever, of course, that restriction doesn't include families taking snapshots or home movies. I don't know if that was inferred... but it's clearly not the case.

There is a difference between private snapshots and photos that are going to be sold. Anyone can take all the photos they want of Rockin Rollercoaster with their personal camera. But you can't sell them if the Aerosmith name is visible.

Since Disney Photopass Photographs are taken with the eventual possibility of being sold, they may NOT include "Aerosmith", The Chinese Theater, and all the other things listed on a previous post.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
Someone, waaaaay back in this thread, said there were a lot of first time guests because they had on "My First WDW Trip" buttons. My son got one of those buttons from a CM - it was his 9th trip. Judging first-time attendence by a button is....well, I'll let others fill in the adjective.

Xmas, Thanksgiving, those are always a zoo in terms of attendance. Nothing new. I believe I read that park attendance was flat in 2006, so there's not a lot, in terms of attendance figures (so far) that YoaMD is "packing them in".

Yeah, I imagine Disney's lawyers were a bit busy when the copyright holders lawyers (Aerosmith, Chinese Theater, et al) started an avalanche of paperwork on them for selling pictures of their copyrights. ;)
 

Gorjus

Well-Known Member
"My First WDW Trip" buttons. My son got one of those buttons from a CM - it was his 9th trip. Judging first-time attendence by a button is....well, I'll let others fill in the adjective.

Most of the people wearing "first time" buttons are first timers. That ONE cast member shouldn't have given your son a button and neither you, nor your son should have accepted it. However, being there every day, I can tell you that the parks are much more crowded, attendance is way up, and many, many people are first timers.
 

Pumbas Nakasak

Heading for the great escape.
There is a difference between private snapshots and photos that are going to be sold. Anyone can take all the photos they want of Rockin Rollercoaster with their personal camera. But you can't sell them if the Aerosmith name is visible.


do you do stand up :ROFLOL: :ROFLOL: :ROFLOL:
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
The battle of Disney continues.

Bear this in mind. Disney, like most major companies with bloated corporate structures, is not unique in that two people from within the organization can tell you two completely opposite and contrasting tales, and both of them be completely true.

That's how bloated Disney is... that two departments within the company have CM's with completely different information and viewpoints... and neither one is wrong (albeit attempting to discredit each other because one has his TWDS viewpoint v. the other one with a WDI-FL viewpoint)

Long story short, have a wonderful time ladies :)
 

darthjohnny

Active Member
In a recent radio interview Lasseter also mentioned that his "second greatest love" after animation was Theme parks. Having grown up and worked at Disneyland (He was a sweeper in Tomorrowland and a skipper on the Jungle Cruise among other things) Lasseter has a real understanding of what works and what doesn't work in a theme park.

No offence, but I don't think sweeping up or running a particular attraction in the park gives you an "understanding of what works and what doesn't work in the theme park." :lol:

I've seen cast members that worked all over the parks, and for many years, and still don't know what's going on. Sometimes I wonder if they're even aware of where they are. :ROFLOL:

But getting back to the origninal discussion, I don't think the wand will go away for a long time.

In my opinion, I like the wand. It does give it a more Disney feel. Unless it was structurely unsafe, I doubt Disney would spend all that money to take it down.:) :wave:
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
No offence, but I don't think sweeping up or running a particular attraction in the park gives you an "understanding of what works and what doesn't work in the theme park." :lol:

Agreed.

Ive driven a car for nearly 25 years. I would consider myself really knowledgable about driving a car. I couldnt fix one or build one even if Jack Bauer was about to cut my thumb off with a cigar snipper.
 

wdwishes2005

New Member
No offence, but I don't think sweeping up or running a particular attraction in the park gives you an "understanding of what works and what doesn't work in the theme park." :lol:

I've seen cast members that worked all over the parks, and for many years, and still don't know what's going on. Sometimes I wonder if they're even aware of where they are. :ROFLOL:

But getting back to the origninal discussion, I don't think the wand will go away for a long time.

In my opinion, I like the wand. It does give it a more Disney feel. Unless it was structurely unsafe, I doubt Disney would spend all that money to take it down.:) :wave:
Don't give anyone ideas.
 

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
Nobody is attacking him. We just want to have a logical discussion with him. People aren't allowed to ask questions and debate around here?

Yes, but you have to prove your credentials. Corrus has proven his, as have many others. His statements are generally accepted as fact.

You however are an unproven poster with no track record or credentials to bring to the conversation.

Therefore your arguments are not going to be accepted as fact until you can have some bonifide credentials, youre just a nobody behind a keyboard with an opinion. :wave:
 

Tom Morrow

Well-Known Member
No offence, but I don't think sweeping up or running a particular attraction in the park gives you an "understanding of what works and what doesn't work in the theme park." :lol:

I've seen cast members that worked all over the parks, and for many years, and still don't know what's going on. Sometimes I wonder if they're even aware of where they are. :ROFLOL:
Wow. I love how so many of you love to rip on cast members. Yeah, not every cast member is good, but when you need 55,000 of them, its hard to get everyone to be perfect.

And if you really don't like it, maybe you should do something about it other than complaining about it on an internet website. The parks can't run themselves, and if it weren't for them, none of you would be able to come on here and constantly complain about the place you supposedly love so much.

:rolleyes:

No offence, but I don't think sweeping up or running a particular attraction in the park gives you an "understanding of what works and what doesn't work in the theme park." :lol:
and neither does posting on wdwmagic.com, although many of you would like to think otherwise.
 

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