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Raging Spirits coming to MK?
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Absimilliard
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Regarding Crush at WDS
The Crush's Turtle Twister that is being built at Walt Disney Studios is the standard Maurer Sohne spinning coaster. Only thing they did was add a short lift and a dark ride portion before the mainlift. Here's what it looks like without the building and the theming: http://www.rcdb.com/ig2164.htm?picture=19 . Knowing what Maurer-Sohne already did on their spinning coasters, stuff like tilting or moving pieces of track... its sad Imagineering went with the standard fairground layout.
The Crush's Turtle Twister that is being built at Walt Disney Studios is the standard Maurer Sohne spinning coaster. Only thing they did was add a short lift and a dark ride portion before the mainlift. Here's what it looks like without the building and the theming: http://www.rcdb.com/ig2164.htm?picture=19 . Knowing what Maurer-Sohne already did on their spinning coasters, stuff like tilting or moving pieces of track... its sad Imagineering went with the standard fairground layout.
Epcot82Guy
Well-Known Member
That was exactly the idea I had in mind, although perhaps a bit more than what Crush is getting.
hammysammy59
New Member
Yuck... Raging Spirits just sounds bad on so many different counts.
Plus, I'd rather see Fantasyland get a thrill ride.
Plus, I'd rather see Fantasyland get a thrill ride.
That's really not an accurate assessment of Crush's Coaster at all. For one, the whole thing is basically a dark ride. It's all indoors with many set pieces and themed elements along the course of the coaster. The real thing that I want to point out though is that Crush will be a *much more fun* ride as far as coasters go than the crazy mouse and wild mouse you are comparing it to. Crush is a completely different ride system supplied by Maurer Shone, who, while similar in appearance to the untrained eye provide a VERY different ride experience. Prior to riding my frist Maurer Shone spinning coaster I expected to dislike the ride because I do not at all care for wild mouse coasters - but man, these ones are *so much damn fun*.
I was talking about Crush with a friend the other day and we both agree that it will be very easy to see Disney plop one of those rides down at every resort, and I would *totally* welcome it. Raging Spirits / Indy / Disappointment Loop Coaster on the other hand..........
CheriBibi
New Member
Well Raging Spirit/IndianaJones have always been basic business related additions. When DLP aknowledged their major problem during opening : 2 hours queues to most of its attraction. They needed something cheap and fast rating that would manage as many people in a short time. The dark rides originally planned for Phase 2 would have never been able to swallow this kind of crowd, that's why Indiana Jones came to town. Plus it has a great appeal to the 15/25...
We know that the MK can be quiet crowded considering it holds almots a double attendance than each other park on the resort. That wouldn't be a bad business decision though, to answer the "new thrill" demand with a cheap fast rate attraction that's even cheaper now that two versions already exist. But I've rode both the paris and tokyo version... It's short, it's not that big a of thrill, and even though the theming is not that bad at all, it doesn't really look like a DISNEY ride. It's more like very well themed 6 flags kinda ride. No Disney park needs it, especially not the most successful of all...
So my final thought would be : yeah sure, they might add it...
Tata.
We know that the MK can be quiet crowded considering it holds almots a double attendance than each other park on the resort. That wouldn't be a bad business decision though, to answer the "new thrill" demand with a cheap fast rate attraction that's even cheaper now that two versions already exist. But I've rode both the paris and tokyo version... It's short, it's not that big a of thrill, and even though the theming is not that bad at all, it doesn't really look like a DISNEY ride. It's more like very well themed 6 flags kinda ride. No Disney park needs it, especially not the most successful of all...
So my final thought would be : yeah sure, they might add it...
Tata.
Lee
Adventurer
Of those two? Raging...no doubt. Mermaid Lagoon ain't happening.
Being considered. I heard it long before Jim wrote about it.
I agree. MGM is in serious need of some new attractions. And why put something new in MK when it has plenty of rides that need to be referbished?
Very Different - from what we`ve seen, the Excavator was to be more like Cal` Screamin` at DCA. Raging is more like Space Mountain, in a box, with a loop. And of course outside. Think a `bobs` setup with a lot of track arranged in the same place at different levels. Wait... I got a diagram of `Peril somewhere...
RSoxNo1
Well-Known Member
It just seemed to be similiar enough concepts. I didn't know about the whole theming of it. I do feel that there needs to be a new Indy presence in the parks - but as many people on these boards have echoed, clones aren't necessarily the answer. I do agree that an addition to Adventureland would help spread out the crowds more, but it doesn't seem like Raging Spirits could be anything but a disappointment in the face of Everest.
If what Lee has speculated is true - this would be an E-Ticket that isn't innovative that would conceivably push back any new ride experience (say a robo coaster or some varient in tomorrow land).
Personally, I would like to see a varient of the hybrid coaster that was originally intended for Dragon Towers. I think that coaster idea could work with any number of themes we've heard for potential new attractions (Indy, Incredibles).
If what Lee has speculated is true - this would be an E-Ticket that isn't innovative that would conceivably push back any new ride experience (say a robo coaster or some varient in tomorrow land).
Personally, I would like to see a varient of the hybrid coaster that was originally intended for Dragon Towers. I think that coaster idea could work with any number of themes we've heard for potential new attractions (Indy, Incredibles).
Depending on which rumors you believe MGM has at least one new attraction (Midway Mania or what ever it is being called this week) as well as a possible replacement for sounds dangerous on the way, so MGM is not being ignored.
VillanovaBlue
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PhilharMagician
Well-Known Member
This would be a needed attraction for Adventureland, but I do hope it is longer than it's predesessors. The one thing that bothers me just like most of you is that it may effect the addition of an E-ticket being added in the 20K area in the near future.
Nice job on the artwork Martin!
Nice job on the artwork Martin!
Madison
New Member
The Japanese ride was built by Sansei, but the design is the same as that provided to Intamin by Werner Stengel -- in essence, two different contractors working off the same set of plans.
I'm surprised, given their reputation around the internet, that anyone at all works with Intamin. They're among just a few major companies that are willing to do anything innovative, though, so I suppose that people understand the risk associated with that. It's not as if Arrow, when building its ride systems for Disneyland, did a much better job of designing rides that worked out of the box.
Speaking optimistically, I'd love to see Disney develop the huge tract of land that sits between Fantasyland, Toontown and the railroad tracks into something far greater than just a simple E-ticket with its entrance in Fantasyland. There's room back there for another entire land and few genres left to exploit with it. Go crazy and expand the palette of the park to allow for even greater future additions instead of trying to find more and more unique experiences to shoehorn into the existing themes.
PKD
Active Member
If you pay more than a couple of million US dollars for the Pinfari ride it's based upon, you're being taken for a ride.These are not expensive rides by any reasonable standard.
http://www.italintl.com/category.php?category=Roller Coasters
There are not any Pinfari TL-59s on the site at the moment, but similar rides from the company are going for anywhere between about US$.5M to US$1M used.
Ok.. so they are selling used coasters..... So that is where Six Flags gets all their rides!
ms7479a
Well-Known Member
I think any addition to Magic Kingdom would be a positive. However, if they did add something to Adventure Land I would really like to see an Indiana Jones ride similar to the one in Disneyland. I know people will argue that it is basically the same as Dinosaur in Animal Kingdom, but if you can have Dumbo and Magic Carpets both in the Magic Kingdom and Triceratops Spin in Animal Kingdom then I think an Indiana Jones ride would do very well in Magic Kingdom despite being similar to Dinosaur.