Problem day for MK.

[I_heart_Tigger]

In 21 vacations and 2 years working in Disney World I honestly can only think of 1 time that POTC was down to the point that they had to stop letting people on the ride, so it is absolutely not an attraction prone to 101's unless that has changed since...two weeks ago?

Also, just read the posts re: the offensive t-shirts. In 1984 I had a t-shirt that had the word a$$ on it...it had a picture of a donkey but the double meaning was clear. I was asked to turn it inside out for the remainder of the day - no free t-shirt for me

 

[Neverland]

In 21 vacations and 2 years working in Disney World I honestly can only think of 1 time that POTC was down to the point that they had to stop letting people on the ride, so it is absolutely not an attraction prone to 101's unless that has changed since...two weeks ago?

Maybe not two weeks ago, but about a month ago it was down for five days straight........................

And it was down for a bit today. Trust me, I know people who currently work there, people who worked there in the past, and I don't work there, but I work elsewhere at MK and hear about it on the daily. POTC is a problem child. The CMs there say it's not a normal day at Pirates if it doesn't go 101.

Also, 101 does not = not letting people in; it only means the ride is not actually running. Managers can let people get in line even if a ride hasn't been running for an hour, if they really want to.

 

[I_heart_Tigger]

Maybe not two weeks ago, but about a month ago it was down for five days straight........................

And it was down for a bit today. Trust me, I know people who currently work there, people who worked there in the past, and I don't work there, but I work elsewhere at MK and hear about it on the daily. POTC is a problem child. The CMs there say it's not a normal day at Pirates if it doesn't go 101.

Also, 101 does not = not letting people in; it only means the ride is not actually running. Managers can let people get in line even if a ride hasn't been running for an hour, if they really want to.

I realize what 101 means, I just mean that Pirates being to the point that guests aren't being admitted into the queue is rare because the majority of the time that it is 101 for any reason - it is for a short amount of time, not an extended amount that would require CM's to deny admittance.

 

[marni1971]

It's also worthwhile defining a "breakdown"

Attractions stop for a multitude of things. Stupid guests. Slow loading or unloading. Cascades. They may stop for a few minutes, or longer, depending on how specifically it is restarted (Haunted Mansion vs UoE for example)

But a breakdown means something's broken. If so, can it be repaired? Will it or should it mean the whole attraction can't operate? How long to fix it, or does it need to be replaced? Is it something that keeps failing, and if so is that a design or maintainence issue?

PotC can stop since a guest has tried to get out the boat. Or takes too long to get in the boat. That's not a breakdown. When the return ramp motor burns out again in less than a fortnight is a breakdown.

Admittedly what is let go nowadays is far less stringent than it used to be. Each attractions "manual" states what is bad show and should mean no guest can see it (a screen out in Ellen for example) but today what used to be classed as major items that would close an attraction are now minor and guests are allowed to ride, seeing said non-functioning item.

Of course things "break". It's if they are not maintained properly where questions should be asked. And if they do "break" how long to fix them?

 

[Alektronic]

It's also worthwhile defining a "breakdown"

Attractions stop for a multitude of things. Stupid guests. Slow loading or unloading. Cascades. They may stop for a few minutes, or longer, depending on how specifically it is restarted (Haunted Mansion vs UoE for example)

But a breakdown means something's broken. If so, can it be repaired? Will it or should it mean the whole attraction can't operate? How long to fix it, or does it need to be replaced? Is it something that keeps failing, and if so is that a design or maintainence issue?

PotC can stop since a guest has tried to get out the boat. Or takes too long to get in the boat. That's not a breakdown. When the return ramp motor burns out again in less than a fortnight is a breakdown.

Admittedly what is let go nowadays is far less stringent than it used to be. Each attractions "manual" states what is bad show and should mean no guest can see it (a screen out in Ellen for example) but today what used to be classed as major items that would close an attraction are now minor and guests are allowed to ride, seeing said non-functioning item.

Of course things "break". It's if they are not maintained properly where questions should be asked. And if they do "break" how long to fix them?

I agree. 95% of ride stops are guest/operations CM induced. CM's reacting to guest not listening or paying attention.

During ride testing, the ride can run for days and days by itself with no problems just continual cycling, then you introduce the guests that is when all the problems start.

Most rides have a station stop for the loading/unloading area, so it will only affect the loading zone but could eventually back up the ride with cascades and such, but Omnimovers it will affect the whole ride, but then it should be a easy restart.

Other times when there is a guest problem on the ride like standing up and they don't sit down, then there is a manual ride stop or e-stop depending on the ride. Then if the other boats or RV's are in the wrong position then it won't be a easy restart, then that causes other problems then they have to evac, then takes even longer and then they have to reposition all the vehicles and start the ride back up, which can take up to an hour depending on the ride and the problem.

 

[zulemara]

In 21 vacations and 2 years working in Disney World I honestly can only think of 1 time that POTC was down to the point that they had to stop letting people on the ride, so it is absolutely not an attraction prone to 101's unless that has changed since...two weeks ago?

Also, just read the posts re: the offensive t-shirts. In 1984 I had a t-shirt that had the word a$$ on it...it had a picture of a donkey but the double meaning was clear. I was asked to turn it inside out for the remainder of the day - no free t-shirt for me

as much as your conviction for POTC is encouraging, I've had people outraged that the monorails were down, claiming in 20 years they have never gone down while they were at WDW. If a person happens to never experience a given attraction being 101 during their visit, that's great for the reputation of the company, but isn't reality.

Regarding the tshirt...at least the CMs did their job at the front entrance. Of course that's back when CMs cared, but I digress...

 

[I_heart_Tigger]

as much as your conviction for POTC is encouraging, I've had people outraged that the monorails were down, claiming in 20 years they have never gone down while they were at WDW. If a person happens to never experience a given attraction being 101 during their visit, that's great for the reputation of the company, but isn't reality.

Regarding the tshirt...at least the CMs did their job at the front entrance. Of course that's back when CMs cared, but I digress...

People get "outraged" over pretty much anything. I was part of the hurricane task force in my location at Disney World and ordered all outdoor carts to be shut down immediately even though the weather currently wasn't that bad. I shut them down because some of them need to be packed up and moved to an indoor location and I needed the CM's working in those locations to help others close their carts. People were livid that they couldn't get a beer from the cart when they could get one in a location nearby and ...there's a freaking hurricane watch on right now!

Also, my former manager moved to Adventureland in 2004 and has managed there since then. She is thrilled to be a manager there since her attractions don't go 101 nearly as often as Tomorrowland or Frontierland. Her husband used to be a manager in Frontierland (I think he's on Main St. now) so she made fun of him all the time when his mountains were 101. I'm sure he's thrilled to hear when POTC isn't working so he can get a jab in now and then but even he admits that POTC isn't a "problem child" in the park. There are many other attractions that breakdown (not just 101 but breakdown) way more often.

The attraction that she gets the most complaints about for not running and guests wanting to know why are the Magic Carpets of Aladdin....seriously people, there are other rides in the park that are basically the same...just go do those :brick:

..and about the shirt. I wasn't too upset about it or anything (not until I saw on here that they gave a guy that already had a tank top a free shirt - why not a girl with no tank top?) but I think my parents were pretty embarrassed. They didn't see the harm in the shirt really, until a CM pointed it out. Oddly enough, the shirt attracted more attention inside out. You could still see the writing but it was backward so people were always starining to read it and asking me if I knew my shirt was inside out and what it actually said. After a few hours of that my parents gave up and bought me a new shirt. I can't say I didn;t think of it as a good ploy to get some souvenirs but they would never let me wear another "offensive" shirt in Disney World again :lol:

 

[ChuckFromCanada]

Wow didn't mean to cause a WDWMagic epic war on here it was a statement that the park was having a bad day, people should relax eg .the guy with the carpet pull statement etc. I was just stating that when you have E tickets down for refurb and others go offline the remaining few tend to get a little crazy .Last night Splash was down for a few hrs and with the storm shortly after , so was Barnstormer , AO, Speedway, Dumbo, the railroad you get the idea....so 30 mins at IASW.I am not smashing mother nature. It is just news and my thoughts not a Disney smashing. If I didn't like it here I wouldn't drive 1200 miles a year to be here.

 

[Pioneer Hall]

I rode Pirates without incident yesterday at 530. Everything was working fine...

 

[ChuckFromCanada]

I rode Pirates without incident yesterday at 530. Everything was working fine...

Us too...looked and ran great the cannon balls were so fierce air/water blew into my ear...lol. Splash must've raised water level or speeded up the ride it was quick after downtime.The water effects with the frogs are all gone now..nothing was working with jumping water etc. Still a blast though. No train cars on BTM running while I was there.

 

[Tom]

Pirates had a 15 min stall during EMH Sunday night. 2 boats until we would have been at unload. Otherwise, ride was in perfect order. And it was a great experience with about 6 courteous guests in the boat, no photography, no talking. So nice!

 

[MeganRachael]

A POC CM said it best one night - "It's a thirty year old ride with moving parts underwater. Of course it breaks down!"
Also when I was on JC in March the CM said something about a possible JC upgrade beginning in December. Anyone know if this has been reported else where?

 

[COProgressFan]

BREAKING NEWS!!!

In the queue of Mickey's Philharmagic, there was a area of carpet where one strand was pulled out. Declining by degrees, how can people stand it!!!




Jimmy Thick-Why do people bother to go?

Oh, I'm sure there is WAY more than 1 strand out! Unless it's been replaced recently, that carpet is very warn looking and filthy. Thanks for pointing it out!

 

[FRC Team 180]

^^^^^
:roflol:

 

[Crazy Harry]

BREAKING NEWS!!!

In the queue of Mickey's Philharmagic, there was a area of carpet where one strand was pulled out. Declining by degrees, how can people stand it!!!

Jimmy Thick-Why do people bother to go?

The problem with an comment like this is it does not address the issue and attempts to make a mockery of those who bring it up when there are many legitimate points that have been made in terms of insufficient maintainance and frequent or unresolved attraction issues.

It would be like opposing those who feel the government spends too much money by saying:

BREAKING NEWS

The White House did not shop around for toilet paper and paid 3 cents more than the lowest available price.

 

[Jimmy Thick]

BREAKING NEWS!!!


Man sneezes down Main Street USA and rumors persist a small projectile escaped his nose and could be lodged in the brick road. We are currently sending a news team over to photograph where the projectile may have landed, possible a CSI team to trace the whole crime. If the projectile can be found, we will report such declining by degrees as this would not have happed back in the day.

Meg Crofton has not made any comment surrounding this investigation.



Jimmy Thick-Any video of this would be front page news people!!!

 

[marni1971]

Jimmy... Falling projectiles from poor maintainence isn't far from the truth. And I'm not talking about DAK.

I didn't know you new about THAT incident....

 

[Lee]

Jimmy... Falling projectiles from poor maintainence isn't far from the truth. And I'm not talking about DAK.

I didn't know you new about THAT incident....

Now Martin, don't go scaring the good people.:lol:





True, though.....:lookaroun

 

[Rum Pirate]

In fact that lengthy downtime was due to Florida Power NOT TDO lol and I do have to agree that downtime's in general happen almost every single day, and when you have attractions that have drops in the case of Splash and Pirates, for safety those areas have to be physically checked and cleared that's what takes so long, and Splash Is a beast of stairs! other attractions are a reset and go, and in the length of time it took to read this they would have been reset already!

These downtime's have been have always been around, but with the internet it does seem (seem being the key word) more prevalent. Downtime's are also not ride related, they can be for a multitude of things, a high percentage is guest related, some are things that need to be address regarding show quality, yes we still do have that, or custodial issues, (please dont make me go into that). Its an information age, and people should share what ever they like and find like minded people, Heck I found this place because someone told me about Daily updates as to the Status of the Hat Pirate!!! (that made me laugh)

RP

 

[PolynesianPrincess]

I was there on Saturday and didn't get to ride PotC since it was down. It was fine since we rode it twice earlier in the week. Space as TTA were both down around 8pm or so when we went to get FP for Space. It was back up an running though after the 2nd parade, around 11:30.

I understand things breakdown. Mechanical failures and such but almost every time we go, we see the same rides down. Space, TTA, Pirates and Splash. Not sure why it's those same ones every time, but it is. Last November TTA had to be evacuated and our car slammed into the one in front of us twice. it was so bizarre. The CMs had to walk the entire length of track and let everyone out.