Princess and the frog a failure?

[Computer Magic]

When it comes to Disney there is more to gaining a profit then what the movie brings in at the box office. Their movies tie into theme parks and merchandises on the self. DVD sales is also a big part of Disney profit expectations. Disney will milk this movie for generations in the parks, selling dresses, accessories, etc.

I have stated this before, Pixar movies seem geared towards boys and Disney has been geared towards princesses. Yes, they are the same company, but look at the movies that were made. Off topic, I think Disney is gearling too much towards girls.

 

[ChrisFL]

Umm...

Return of the King.....


that is all.....

Quoted for Truth.

 

[Computer Magic]

Disney has been riding Pixar and Pirates for years. PatF has been a modest hit and a nice change of pace. I hope we'll see more hand-drawn pictures, and I'd bet we will.

This movie has done well enough to bring back hand-drawn movies. Something I'm glad o see.

 

[MAF]

I think the word "classic" gets thrown around WAY too liberaly these days. I would never consider movies like Bolt, Meet the Robinsons, or Chicken Little classics and honestly I don't think PatF will meet the criteria either. It's not a movie that people 5 to 10 years from now are going to remember, but that's just my opinion of course.

 

[dxwwf3]

When it comes to Disney there is more to gaining a profit then what the movie brings in at the box office. Their movies tie into theme parks and merchandises on the self. DVD sales is also a big part of Disney profit expectations. Disney will milk this movie for generations in the parks, selling dresses, accessories, etc.

I have stated this before, Pixar movies seem geared towards boys and Disney has been geared towards princesses. Yes, they are the same company, but look at the movies that were made. Off topic, I think Disney is gearling too much towards girls.

I don't think anyone would disagree. Cars wasn't anywhere near the biggest Pixar movie at the Box Office, but I would be willing to bet that it is the most profitable film they have made from a merchandising standpoint.

But still I think Disney probably expected a little better BO than this when it brought out a new princess film.

 

[dxwwf3]

Quoted for Truth.

I still have to take the time to watch Return of the King. The first two LotR movies were so completely boring to me (I honestly couldn't tell you 5 things that happened in the first two films), I'm having trouble making myself watch ROTK. I'll get around to it eventually.

 

[Wilt Dasney]

I still have to take the time to watch Return of the King. The first two LotR movies were so completely boring to me (I honestly couldn't tell you 5 things that happened in the first two films), I'm having trouble making myself watch ROTK. I'll get around to it eventually.

I doubt it would be worth your time, if you hated the first two that much. After an hour or so of LotR, you know what you're getting, so it's just a matter of whether or not you want more. (I personally fell in love with FotR from the opening shots.)

 

[ChrisFL]

I think the word "classic" gets thrown around WAY too liberaly these days. I would never consider movies like Bolt, Meet the Robinsons, or Chicken Little classics and honestly I don't think PatF will meet the criteria either. It's not a movie that people 5 to 10 years from now are going to remember, but that's just my opinion of course.

Do you fit the demographic though?

 

[dxwwf3]

I doubt it would be worth your time, if you hated the first two that much. After an hour or so of LotR, you know what you're getting, so it's just a matter of whether or not you want more. (I personally fell in love with FotR from the opening shots.)

Well it's one of the "top films" of the decade and because I've started the series, I feel like I need to finish it. And because I could not possibly think any higher of his remake of King Kong, I also want to see all of Peter Jackson's films.

But yes I probably won't care for RotK either because right now, I care absolutely nothing about the characters or the story after the first two films :shrug:

 

[ChrisFL]

I still have to take the time to watch Return of the King. The first two LotR movies were so completely boring to me (I honestly couldn't tell you 5 things that happened in the first two films), I'm having trouble making myself watch ROTK. I'll get around to it eventually.

If you can't appreciate the brilliance of the first two, then the third one would be lost on you as well.

 

[MAF]

Do you fit the demographic though?

Demographics don't really matter if the movie is good enough. A good movie will be able to please any demographic. I don't fit the demographic for movies like the Little Mermaid or the Lion King but I still watch those to this date.

 

[Wilt Dasney]

Do you fit the demographic though?

If we're talking about defining what is or isn't a classic, then shouldn't the whole idea of demographics be moot? "Classic" films are generally good enough to break through those barriers and appeal to a (theoretically) universal audience.

IMO, this movie won't be a classic 10 years from now. But if it's good enough to revive the art of hand drawn and see where it takes us, that's good enough for me.

 

[dxwwf3]

If you can't appreciate the brilliance of the first two, then the third one would be lost on you as well.

I did enjoy the segment about LotR in Clerks 2 though :ROFLOL:

 

[Computer Magic]

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IMO, this movie won't be a classic 10 years from now. But if it's good enough to revive the art of hand drawn and see where it takes us, that's good enough for me.

Exactly..Look where Little Mermaid took us after years of poorly 2d movies...

I'm not sure the movie interest me, but I will support it by buying the DVD.

 

[hrcollectibles]

I wouldn't call the film a failure.. I think it was/is up against some pretty stiff competition. .. I think once it hits DVD people (read Disney Fans) will add this to their collection.. But as we all know thanx to Yogurt.. "Merchandising, merchandising, where the real money from the movie is made."

 

[dxwwf3]

Exactly..Look where Little Mermaid took us after years of poorly 2d movies...

I'm not sure the movie interest me, but I will support it by buying the DVD.

Yes but Mermaid was a huge success. HUGE. Sure there wasn't as much competition as PatF had to face, but it will probably end up making more money with 1989 dollars.

 

[Computer Magic]

Yes but Mermaid was a huge success. HUGE. Sure there wasn't as much competition as PatF had to face, but it will probably end up making more money with 1989 dollars.

Really? Mermaid never made number one during it's first release. See link

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=littlemermaid.htm

 

[ChrisFL]

I did enjoy the segment about LotR in Clerks 2 though :ROFLOL:

I never saw Clerks 2, I watched most of Clerks 1 but couldn't stay interested in it and didn't feel anything for the characters

 

[dxwwf3]

Really? Mermaid never made number one during it's first release. See link

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=littlemermaid.htm

Wow you're right, there was some serious competition there with BTTF 2 and Christmas Vacation and even Look Who's Talking.

 

[DisneyDellsDude]

I literally just got back from PatF a few minutes ago and really enjoyed the film. IMO, it was not a failure, but a great step in the right direction.