BaconPancakes
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That’s ridiculous, a few bad apples don’t spoil the whole bunch.
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PRIDE: Community
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..grrrrll!
BaconPancakes
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I don’t get it...
Tony the Tigger
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Well, I’m being up-lectured on FB by LGBT’s born after I marched on Washington who are telling me I don’t know about Stonewall.
Also it’s apparently my white privilege, and I obviously don’t care about gay PoC or transgendered folks.
If there is any safe space for those members of the LGBT community who have justifiable trepidation about police, it’s at a Pride event.
Also it’s apparently my white privilege, and I obviously don’t care about gay PoC or transgendered folks.
If there is any safe space for those members of the LGBT community who have justifiable trepidation about police, it’s at a Pride event.
BaconPancakes
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Do yourself a favor and delete Facebook immediately. I did last year and haven’t looked back. I have so much less aggravation in my life now.
BuddyThomas
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Yup. This is a big mistake.
Tony the Tigger
Well-Known Member
My business depends on it fairly heavily (and for whatever reason, a business account must be tied to a personal account!)
Figgy1
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The accounts must be tied is stupid IMHO. Understandable but stupid
BuddyThomas
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This was supposed to come out in February. Hmmmmmmmm.
www.cbr.com
Anyway, four major musicals are scheduled for this year:
In the Heights
West Side Story
Everybody's Talking About Jamie (if it gets released)
Dear Evan Hansen
Everybody's Talking About Jamie: One Major Delayed Disney Film STILL Lacks a Release Date
The musical Everybody's Talking About Jamie has been delayed multiple times, but unlike other long-delayed Disney films, it lacks a release date.
www.cbr.com
Anyway, four major musicals are scheduled for this year:
In the Heights
West Side Story
Everybody's Talking About Jamie (if it gets released)
Dear Evan Hansen
Police as an organization has been banned from marching in Vancouver Pride, I think most prides up here in fact.
Members can still march, just not in uniform and the departments themselves can't apply to be in the parade.
Seeing as the history of the police and LGBTQ+ is... well you know what it is. And then many members of our own community do not feel safe around the police, I believe this is a perfectly reasonable thing to do until real reform takes place, and real amends and reconciliation is made.
ETA:
www.teenvogue.com
Members can still march, just not in uniform and the departments themselves can't apply to be in the parade.
Seeing as the history of the police and LGBTQ+ is... well you know what it is. And then many members of our own community do not feel safe around the police, I believe this is a perfectly reasonable thing to do until real reform takes place, and real amends and reconciliation is made.
ETA:
No, Police Aren't Welcome at Pride — and for Good Reason
"Police cannot peacock as allies for one day a year and not expect to be held accountable for their actions the rest of the time."
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BaconPancakes
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Yeah screw the lgbt police officers though. (Sarcasm) 
Tony the Tigger
Well-Known Member
I don’t think it’s reasonable at all. It’s short-sighted, reactionary, and antagonistic.Police as an organization has been banned from marching in Vancouver Pride, I think most prides up here in fact.
Members can still march, just not in uniform and the departments themselves can't apply to be in the parade.
Seeing as the history of the police and LGBTQ+ is... well you know what it is. And then many members of our own community do not feel safe around the police, I believe this is a perfectly reasonable thing to do until real reform takes place, and real amends and reconciliation is made.
ETA:
No, Police Aren't Welcome at Pride — and for Good Reason
"Police cannot peacock as allies for one day a year and not expect to be held accountable for their actions the rest of the time."
Minthorne
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I’d have to agree.
Yeah screw the lgbt police officers though. (Sarcasm)
Not sure what sarcasm means in this case, but just using your point to jump off of.
Nothing bars them from participating, but why would they need to do so in uniform?
The organizations/institutions have been banned, rightfully so. Not the individual.
BaconPancakes
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Why shouldn’t they be allowed in uniform? I’m so tired of the lgbtq community picking and choosing who is and isn’t worthy.
The reasons are outlined in the articles I shared, and you can listen to many others for why they believe police institutions involvement is not wanted right now.
My belief as a white gay men who has a pretty cushy life and has never felt fear around police - listen to the members of our community who do feel fear and lack of safety around the police, understand, and honour what they need. It’s got to be a safe space for all, and if that means an institution doesn’t march in a parade, that’s no big deal to me.
Tony the Tigger
Well-Known Member
Meh.
When this first started coming up a few years ago, I was just like you. I thought “what the heck, why are we doing this? This is crazy.”
But I then started to stop and listen to other members of the community. And my opinion changed. If this is important to them, if they feel unsafe, I will support them fully.
The members of our community who are asking for these changes are often the most marginalized by the general populace just because of their race, and then often marginalized or fetishized by those in the LGBT community. How can I, as a white gay man, tell them what they need or feel is invalid or wrong?
And then how can I reconcile the history of the police, which is really the reason we have pride in the first place, and the lack of any true amends by the police? They have work to do - and until that is done, the institution can stay away from our parades.
Allies or LGBT members in the police can still participate, just not in uniform or associated with the police, and quite frankly, why would they need to be during the parade?
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BuddyThomas
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If I was a violent, mentally deranged homophobe, a giant cop-less pride parade might sound like an appealing opportunity to cause a terrible incident. Just sayin’. I’m actually considering not going this year.